Re: At Last! A Responce

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I'm remain doubtful that depression causes PSSD type symptoms, which include

genital numbess, inability to reach orgasm, etc. I think that what happens in

severe depression is that people lose interest in sex and don't care much for it

because they feel too bad. They usually go off food as well. With PSSD it is

different, we all want sex but can't do it, no matter how hard we try. The

interest is there but there are no feelings.

It is possible that when under a lot of stress, or chronic stress, our sex drive

goes down a bit, although this never happened to me before I took drugs and I

always had a lot of anxiety. But I'm sure even then that a relationship with a

lovely person would still bring pleasure. The brain has not been damaged you

see, it is just that the hormones have got a bit burnt out.

When I first got PSSD I was just as devasted to find that even holding a lovely

woman meant nothing much. Everything is felt dead.

kaivey

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> > Depression is a real mental illness. It has been proven that it

> affects your sexual function, while PSSD has yet to be proven. I suggest

> you re-evaluate your so-called theory of " science "

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Okay , maybe you were just trying to be helpful by saying I had emotional

problems that may have caused my sexual dysfunction and that I can get well. I

do have a lot of anxiety and stess - much of it caused by PSSSD. If this was the

case, I apologise. But why say I had a mental illnes, why not just say I had

stress. I think you can understand why I saw red.

Kaivey

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I was severely depressed and anxious before I was given anti pychotic drugs and I always wanted sex, infact for years I had unuserally high cravings for sex, if anything being anxious made me worse, I guess I ignored my feelings a litte being depressed but I always knew they were there and when I did masturbate it felt fantastic, I think depressed people seem to have a tendancy to not take care of themselves and ignore there own feelings a little, because if they took care of themselves then quite obviously they would not feel so depressed. Nobody could have been more depressed than I was and I still had a major amount of sexual and emotional feeling, depression is not a depression of ones feelings but more a above average amount of feelings and more emotional concern for others around us

and the world in general, I think that people that become depressed tend to actually have more feelings than most as a result become more saddened by the bad things happening in the world around them, I dont believe that depressed people lose interest in sex they simply learn to neglect themselves so I do not understand how anyone can say that the result of no sex drive is a pychological manisfestation,

that is simply absurd..... I would not take any notice, I know I had a major amount of feeling and when I Was given the drugs I had no feelings for two years, this is DEFINATELY the result of the medications they poisioned me with. Iv had some return in my feelings over the present months. but I know the medications caused my problems without a doupt. I remain hopeful of recovery.

To: SSRIsex Sent: Thu, October 21, 2010 4:18:11 PMSubject: Re: At Last! A Responce

Okay , maybe you were just trying to be helpful by saying I had emotional problems that may have caused my sexual dysfunction and that I can get well. I do have a lot of anxiety and stess - much of it caused by PSSSD. If this was the case, I apologise. But why say I had a mental illnes, why not just say I had stress. I think you can understand why I saw red.Kaivey> > >

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Not my fight, but I can't help saying, , that pretty much anyone in the US addressed in the tone you use below would feel insulted. I know I would. It's a cultural thing (content, voice/written tone). Maybe you're not from here & are unaware that telling someone they're mentally ill, unless you're their doctor, in which case you wouldn't use the term "mentally ill", is considered an insult.

Ann

> >> > Overcoming PSSD will most likely take years and so there will be only a slow progress from A to B. The reaason I post about my progress is to give people hope that it is possible to recover from PSSD...

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Again, I'm feeling insulted, and I'm not even being addressed. Sure, women can have sex if they have zero libido, but they won't enjoy it. It'll just be for your pleasure.

Women need to have an engorged clitoris. And if you look up "clitoris" on scientific sites, you'll find that it's not just the little knob at the top of the vulva -- there's erectile tissue surrounding it, and surrounding the urethra, just like you guys (your penis), and we have an erectile structure similar to the prostate gland. And we have erectile tissues in the vagina, especially the G spot. If none of those are receiving the necessary amount of blood to get engorged, we aren't interested in sex. If we're not interested in sex, in general, following cessation of taking an SSRI, we have PSSD, bud.

Ann

> >> > Why are you posting on this site? Do you have PSSD? Or whats your deal? Why do you feel you have THE definition of PSSD? I can have sex. Do I have a libido? No. Do I feel pleasure? No. Do I have am orgasm? Not really. Just a weak, pleasureless blah. Even with full-fledged OCD I had pleasure. Now... No OCD. No SSRI(2 years now) no pleasure. I have a sputtering of a hint of libido, randomly, about every few months that is weak amd lasts but a few days. Not normal. PSSD!> > > > .. If you have the answers... Enlighten us. No emotional problems here. Not over weight. Very fit! Work out & play tennis 4-6 days per week. Take ever supplement known to mankind. Hormones in balance. What's your answer/ solution?> >

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I understand that there is a significant difference between PSSD that includes

erectile dysfunction and PSSD where it is still physically possible to at least

have sex.

Women obviously do not have to worry about this, but many of the men here

(actually most) still seem to be able to function but everything else is messed

up. So I don't think it's so much a male/female issue - just different degrees

and manifestation of these lasting side effects.

There are also people who seem to have not lost their emotional range, but most

of us feel like we have.

I am sorry you are suffering this badly and severely ... maybe this has led to

some misunderstandings.

This might not help at all but did you see the video made by Man from the UK?

He has lasting erectile dysfunction but can still have sex if he injects himself

- obviously this is a difficult situation but it does sound like he found a way

to have sex. And I think I read here once that he was or is involved in good

relationship.

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Thank you, Ann. I couldn't have said it better myself.

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> > > Why are you posting on this site? Do you have PSSD? Or whats your

> deal? Why do you feel you have THE definition of PSSD? I can have sex.

> Do I have a libido? No. Do I feel pleasure? No. Do I have am orgasm? Not

> really. Just a weak, pleasureless blah. Even with full-fledged OCD I had

> pleasure. Now... No OCD. No SSRI(2 years now) no pleasure. I have a

> sputtering of a hint of libido, randomly, about every few months that is

> weak amd lasts but a few days. Not normal. PSSD!

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> > > .. If you have the answers... Enlighten us. No emotional

> problems here. Not over weight. Very fit! Work out & play tennis 4-6

> days per week. Take ever supplement known to mankind. Hormones in

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Thanks Anne, I have put a filter on 's posts so I will never have to read

this crazy stuff again. If you read the posts today you will see that many

people here have had changes in their libido over time, getting better and then

decreasing again. say's what doed Dr Stuart Shipko know, his theories have

not been proven? Well, Dr Staurt Shipko is a consultant psychiatist and and a

neurologist who has studied PSSD for many years, he is not some idiot sitting

behind a computer deciding what PSSD is, and who has it.

I don't understand why he takes isuue with me, perhaps he so jealous because I

can feel some sexual pleasure of sorts at the moment. But I never get

spontaneously turned on and I always have to work at it, although recently it

has been feeling fairly good when I finally get there.

I told him how the drugs fried my brain and left me with tardive dyskinesia - a

sign of serious damage to the brain which took 18 months to settle. And I still

twitch a bit now, my eye lids have been playing up this week . I have said how

being with a woman has no magic since I took nefazodone, etc. And I can't have

sex with a women, and neither can a woman mastibate me - they can't keep the

speed up for that amount of time. I guess my arm has got used to it.

I wonder if he is someone from the drug companies sent here to cause disruption,

afterall, we are about to get this story out, and we are their worst enemy.

Kaivey

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> > > Overcoming PSSD will most likely take years and so there will be

> only a slow progress from A to B. The reaason I post about my progress

> is to give people hope that it is possible to recover from PSSD...

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If you payed closer attention to my post I stated that women can too have PSSD

but it obviously is different. All I said is that if women have no interest in

sex they are still physically able. Men on the other hand, do not have that

capability, if they have no interest, they are physically unable. It's not my

fault you feel insulted, I'm just stating the facts.......bud

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> > > Why are you posting on this site? Do you have PSSD? Or whats your

> deal? Why do you feel you have THE definition of PSSD? I can have sex.

> Do I have a libido? No. Do I feel pleasure? No. Do I have am orgasm? Not

> really. Just a weak, pleasureless blah. Even with full-fledged OCD I had

> pleasure. Now... No OCD. No SSRI(2 years now) no pleasure. I have a

> sputtering of a hint of libido, randomly, about every few months that is

> weak amd lasts but a few days. Not normal. PSSD!

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> > > .. If you have the answers... Enlighten us. No emotional

> problems here. Not over weight. Very fit! Work out & play tennis 4-6

> days per week. Take ever supplement known to mankind. Hormones in

> balance. What's your answer/ solution?

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The different degree of manifestation I addressed was that women are physically

able to have sex with no libido while it is impossible for men. I have watched

the man from UK but I'm leaving that as a last possible resort. Even with the

injection it doesn't do anything for your sex drive, which only then puts us a

level playing field with females as it may be physically possible to have sex

but not enjoy it.

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I'm not taking an issue with you, you're the one who is getting all bent out of

shape. In your last post you apologized after reading that I stated that I was

only trying to help, now you've flipped out again. I said there is no scietific

evidence of PSSD as of yet, only testimonials from SSRI users that believe PSSD

exists, that I too, am a part of. Basically you're angry because I used the term

" mental illness " which severe depression/anxiety is classified as. Don't shoot

the messenger Kaivey

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Severe depression/anxiety is classified as a mental illness. You don't have to

be a doctor to use the proper termanology. I'm sure no one suffering from long

term depression or anxiety wants to hear that term, but it's the truth.

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> > > Overcoming PSSD will most likely take years and so there will be

> only a slow progress from A to B. The reaason I post about my progress

> is to give people hope that it is possible to recover from PSSD...

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[Guest guest]

, the " anonymoushater " in your email address along with your posts makes me

think your posts are driven by your inner anger and not for the good of those

you post to. Everyone here on this board is here to help each other and truly

care for one another -- you included. Yes, we care about YOUR well-being, too.

We didn't make you this way. We didn't give you PSSD. We are trying to help

ourselves and you with a full recovery.

Let me repeat as I stated before, people with anxiety or depression don't

typically have sexual dysfunction. They may not be " interested " in sex because

they are preoccupied with other emotions and issues, but the " equipment "

typically works. It is not until after taking the SSRIs that the equipment

failed.

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Why, why, WHY, do men keep saying women don't have to worry about having sex if they have PSSD. Please all you guys listen: WOMEN DON'T ENJOY GETTING FUCKED IF THE PHYSIOLOGICAL RESPONSE ISN'T HAPPENING!! HELLO???

Women's problems with SSRI sex effects affect them the same as they do men. It doesn't make us happy to lie there & think of England while you use us to stroke your penis (if your penis is working). We want to feel the feelings, we want the feelings to build up, we want to climax, JUST LIKE YOU GUYS!!

Women like sex just as much as men do. Maybe more, since we have more whole-body orgasms and some of us are multi-orgasmic.

I'm surprised this "Oh, women don't really have any sex problems" kind of thinking still exists. It's sexist. It's sexist. It's sexist!!! Sexism is still acceptable in our society. We've managed to give up racism, at least in public. Be the first on your block to give up sexism. THINK before you speak.

Do a little research to find out what women really are.

Ann

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,Its my understanding that the makers of SSRI's freely admit that there products cause temporary sexual dysfunctions--although they probably underestimate the statistics on what percentage will experience this. So, If temporary sexual side-effects are acknowledged by manufacturers to be a physical illness--not due to psychological condition of patient--why is it so hard for you to consider that these same physical side effects can become permanent?Some on this blog site have referred to Doctor Audrey Bahricks medical journal article about PSSD--and, may I refer to it again--where she mentions a study done by several urologists who found a significant percentage of their patients in a study who took SSRI for premature ejaculation continued to experience altered sexual functions 6 months after they stopped the SSRI--and these study

participants were not in the study for a mental illness--but, as I said earlier they were in the study to see how SSRI would effect their premature ejaculation--so they were not mentally ill--but, they still reported chronic sexual effects from taking SSRI. I think this alone proves that SSRI are capable of chronic physical sexual effects.Shaun------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Subject: Re: At Last! A ResponceTo: SSRIsex Date: Wednesday, October 20, 2010, 11:35 PMDepression is a real mental illness. It has been proven

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Shaun,

You're putting words in my mouth. I do believe PSSD is caused while taking SSRIS

and can become permanent, afterall I stated that I believe I have PSSD. The only

reason I suggested that it may be a mental issue is because Kaivey said he was

able to have sex sometimes and not others, whereas I believe that if you have

full-blown PSSD you are unable to perform at any given time. What it comes down

to is if you improve your mental health you greatly affect your chances at being

able to improve sexual dysfunction weather you have PSSD or not.

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Anne you are over-reacting. You are twisting my words. Too many of you are

making your own assumptions about my statement. I believe the emotional factors

of PSSD are very similar if not exactly the same regarding males and females. I

agree that you wouldn't enjoy sex just like we do, I didn't say that you do. I

said women were physically capable of being able to, even while having zero

libido, while that is next to impossible for men without some type of aid. How

you get sexist out of that is beyond me. The next time you reply to a post,

don't make assumptions and twist words to make them something they're not. You

need to RELAX and think before you speak.

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you are extremely far from the truth. I too was trying to help someone

but it got took the wrong way which isn't my fault. I'm not saying you gave me

PSSD, what are you talking about? It has a fact that depression and anxiety

causes sexual dysfunction regarding erectile dysfunction and sex drive. Why do

you think that is the conclusion that most doctors come to when told about this

condition? I believe PSSD exists, there just hasn't been any evidence of

scientific proof of it. I wish there was so more could be done to help us.

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> > > > > Overcoming PSSD will most likely take years and so there will be

> > > only a slow progress from A to B. The reaason I post about my progress

> > > is to give people hope that it is possible to recover from PSSD...

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"Physically able"? If a woman isn't arousable, isn't interested in sex, then the only thing "able" about her is that she has an indentation in her body that we call "the vagina". We also have indentations called "the nostrils", "the ear canals", "the mouth", and "the anus". If a woman can't get interested in sex, all of these are equivalent to the vagina as far as physical ability is concerned. If a woman is not interested in sex, she is not. physically. able. to have sex.

Why don't you get this?

Ann

> > > >> > > > Why are you posting on this site? Do you have PSSD? Or whats your> > deal? Why do you feel you have THE definition of PSSD? I can have sex.> > Do I have a libido? No. Do I feel pleasure? No. Do I have am orgasm? Not> > really. Just a weak, pleasureless blah. Even with full-fledged OCD I had> > pleasure. Now... No OCD. No SSRI(2 years now) no pleasure. I have a> > sputtering of a hint of libido, randomly, about every few months that is> > weak amd lasts but a few days. Not normal. PSSD!> > > >> > > > .. If you have the answers... Enlighten us. No emotional> > problems here. Not over weight. Very fit! Work out & play tennis 4-6> > days per week. Take ever supplement known to mankind. Hormones in> > balance. What's your answer/ solution?> > > >> >>

[Guest guest]

, since everyone seems to bemisunderstanding you, putting words in your

mouth, etc., perhaps you need to reread what you write and think it

through better before you hit Send. People here want to help out but don't want

to be insulted. It may not be your intentions but it certainly seems you're the

common denominator. We understand your angry but we don't want you to take it

out on us through your posts. Just reread them before you send them.

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It is just as terrible, the only consolation being though that you can still go through the motions of having sex where as a guy if he cant get an errection is unable to do even that, not much of a consolation really though

To: SSRIsex Sent: Sat, October 23, 2010 1:01:47 AMSubject: Re: At Last! A Responce

Why, why, WHY, do men keep saying women don't have to worry about having sex if they have PSSD. Please all you guys listen: WOMEN DON'T ENJOY GETTING FUCKED IF THE PHYSIOLOGICAL RESPONSE ISN'T HAPPENING!! HELLO???

Women's problems with SSRI sex effects affect them the same as they do men. It doesn't make us happy to lie there & think of England while you use us to stroke your penis (if your penis is working). We want to feel the feelings, we want the feelings to build up, we want to climax, JUST LIKE YOU GUYS!!

Women like sex just as much as men do. Maybe more, since we have more whole-body orgasms and some of us are multi-orgasmic.

I'm surprised this "Oh, women don't really have any sex problems" kind of thinking still exists. It's sexist. It's sexist. It's sexist!!! Sexism is still acceptable in our society. We've managed to give up racism, at least in public. Be the first on your block to give up sexism. THINK before you speak.

Do a little research to find out what women really are.

Ann

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Hi

Ann, Is this message directed at my message directly

below? I don't have to go far to research what women really are because I am a woman myself. If you read my message again, I said that women do not have to worry about

'this' - the physical capacity to have sex, just like almost all of the men here don't have to worry about it either. Nowhere did I say that sex does not matter to women, or that women don't need to worry about sex in general. I am in exactly the same category as most of the

men here - with a very disturbing, life-altering condition that nobody's

even heard of. But those of us who do not have erectile dysfunction (women and men) might try to imagine what it would be like to suddenly have a penis that doesn't work. It really sounds like a nightmare. And saying so does not undermine the importance of my sexuality or any other woman. I also never had this twitching thing that some people have either. That doesn't mean I can't feel bad for someone who does. PSSD has so many different dimensions that there is

certainly enough trouble to

go around. I don't even know if your message is directed at my message. If it is then I hope this makes my opinions clearer. ZiggySubject: Re: At Last! A ResponceTo: SSRIsex Date: Saturday, October 23, 2010, 12:01 AM

Why, why, WHY, do men keep saying women don't have to worry about having sex if they have PSSD. Please all you guys listen: WOMEN DON'T ENJOY GETTING FUCKED IF THE PHYSIOLOGICAL RESPONSE ISN'T HAPPENING!! HELLO???

Women's problems with SSRI sex effects affect them the same as they do men. It doesn't make us happy to lie there & think of England while you use us to stroke your penis (if your penis is working). We want to feel the feelings, we want the feelings to build up, we want to climax, JUST LIKE YOU GUYS!!

Women like sex just as much as men do. Maybe more, since we have more whole-body orgasms and some of us are multi-orgasmic.

I'm surprised this "Oh, women don't really have any sex problems" kind of thinking still exists. It's sexist. It's sexist. It's sexist!!! Sexism is still acceptable in our society. We've managed to give up racism, at least in public. Be the first on your block to give up sexism. THINK before you speak.

Do a little research to find out what women really are.

Ann

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Ah, yes! I'm "overreacting". The standard male response when women get pissed off when men try to tell them (or other men) what women are like. You need to get creative. Find a new term. I've noticed that you're an expert on not only women but PSSD (you've generated a definition for it that you expect all the people here to abide by).

Let me try to explain this again, in mo-no-syll-ab-les. Wo-men who have no sex drive do not en-joy sex. They are not ab-le to have sex-u-al feelings. So they don't en-joy be-ing fucked. So they aren't ab-le to have sex. They are on-ly ab-le to get raped.

Once again, you're not being creative. I told you you needed to think before you speak. Actually, I think it might be best if you just thought & didn't speak for a while. Read. Listen. Learn.

Learn.

I am sorry that you have PSSD, though.

Ann

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I understood what you said the first, second and third time but if you're too

dense to get it, I refuse to explain myself again. " Standard male response? " And

I'm the sexist? You need to look in the mirror hun. I stated several times

bluntly that I'm no expert, I just gave my opinion. I'm not trying to be

creative I only state facts. Now relax, take a deep breath and shut the fuck up.

I've had enough of your hissy fits.

> > >

> > >

> > > Why, why, WHY, do men keep saying women don't have to worry about

> having

> > > sex if they have PSSD. Please all you guys listen: WOMEN DON'T ENJOY

> > > GETTING FUCKED IF THE PHYSIOLOGICAL RESPONSE ISN'T HAPPENING!!

> HELLO???

> > >

> > > Women's problems with SSRI sex effects affect them the same as they

> do

> > > men. It doesn't make us happy to lie there & think of England while

> you

> > > use us to stroke your penis (if your penis is working). We want to

> feel

> > > the feelings, we want the feelings to build up, we want to climax,

> JUST

> > > LIKE YOU GUYS!!

> > >

> > > Women like sex just as much as men do. Maybe more, since we have

> more

> > > whole-body orgasms and some of us are multi-orgasmic.

> > >

> > > I'm surprised this " Oh, women don't really have any sex problems "

> kind

> > > of thinking still exists. It's sexist. It's sexist. It's sexist!!!

> > > Sexism is still acceptable in our society. We've managed to give up

> > > racism, at least in public. Be the first on your block to give up

> > > sexism. THINK before you speak.

> > >

> > > Do a little research to find out what women really are.

> > >

> > > Ann

> > >

>

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MY POINT EXACTLY. Finally someone gets it. Thanks

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