Livestock grain/fiber metabolismWASRe: storing kefir grains ingrain

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--- [Dennis]I been looking at a few informative sites thru

search. I'll check at Nebraska regarding their research. My 3.5

month old jersey calf likes ground barley including the hull with

milk on it. She also eats kefir and alfalfa hay so might get the

rumen re-established with the correct bacteria to produce CLA. I've

been looking for a quantitative method to test our milk. We have an

HPLC here where I work so might be able to test CLA here. I think we

have the correct detector. I noticed in some research, lactating

cows eating oil from plants raised the CLA content of the milk.

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<toyotaokiec@y...> wrote:

>

> When I was reading about the research, it sounded like they got

high

> levels of CLA in cows that were producing milk FAST and were

eating

> cracked soybeans. I can't remember how much processing was done

to

> the soybeans.

>

> I think the thing they found was that feed that provided lots of

> linoleic acid to a cow that produces milk fast gives the most

CLA. I

> think they said that grass provides some, but soybeans provide

more.

>

> So they were getting high CLA with Holsteins on cracked soybeans,

I

> think.

>

> IIRC, if researchers gave the cow any grain AT ALL, it reduced the

> level of CLA in that cow's milk forever. I think it has to do

with

> the organisms in the rumen. If you give grain, then the grain-

based

> organisms overpopulate relative to the others. And the others are

> the ones that produce the CLA. IMO, it sounded a lot like the

> problem humans have when candida gets out of control.

>

> Brown Swiss were also significant producers of CLA.

>

> The more milkfat in the milk, the more CLA present.

>

> I believe the most prominent researcher was Dr. Tilak Dhilman. I

> think he's at Utah. I think they also did significant research at

a

> center in Nebraska, too.

>

>

>

>

>

> > Dennis-

> >

> > >--- I wonder whether oats and barley would affect CLA as much

due

> to

> > >hi fiber content of these hulled(hull is around each kernel when

> > >ground and therefore livestock eat it with the grain)grains.For

> > >humans to eat the oat and barley grain the hull must be removed

> with

> > >a dehuller..

> >

> > I'm not sure I understand, but AFAIK they both dramatically

affect

> the CLA

> > content of milkfat and tissue fat -- a lot more than fresh

alfalfa

> does,

> > for example.

> >

> >

> >

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