Re: Any natural treatments for depression/anxiety/insomnia

[Guest guest]

Maybe you can research magnesium for your depression and anxiety.

Rapid recovery from major depression using magnesium treatment

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16542786

Antidepressant- and anxiolytic-like activity of magnesium in mice

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15159129

Evidence for the involvement of the monoaminergic system in the antidepressant-like effect of magnesium

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19059299

Magnesium, schizophrenia and manic-depressive disease

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2077436

Magnesium – the Ultimate Heart Medicine

http://magnesiumforlife.com/medical-application/magnesium-–-the-ultimate-heart-medicine/

Magnesium and Cancer

http://magnesiumforlife.com/medical-application/magnesium-and-cancer/

Magnesium in Neurological Diseases and Emotions

http://magnesiumforlife.com/medical-application/magnesium-in-neurological-diseases-and-emotions/

http://magnesiumforlife.com/

Links to articles about magnesium

http://www.mgwater.com/list2.shtml

Depression Treatment: A Cure for Depression using Magnesium?

http://george-eby-research.com/html/depression-anxiety.html

The Miracle of Magnesium

http://drhotzeblog.netymology.com/2006/06/20/the-miracle-of-magnesium/

Signs of Magnesium Deficiency

http://www.easy-immune-health.com/signs-of-magnesium-deficiency.html

What's The RIGHT Magnesium Dosage For Optimal Health?

http://www.easy-immune-health.com/magnesium-dosage.html

Your Magnesium Level Is Virtually Worthless Information

http://www.easy-immune-health.com/magnesium-level.html

Magnesium oxide is the most dense magnesium compound and the one most often used in mineral supplements and multivitamins. It contains 300 mg of elemental magnesium per 500 mg tablet, but is extremely poorly absorbed. Only about 4% of its elemental magnesium is absorbed or about 12 mg out of a 500 mg tablet.

Magnesium citrate contains 80 mg of elemental magnesium per 500 mg tablet. It is far better absorbed than is magnesium oxide. The water soluble form (Natural Calm) contains 205 mg of elemental magnesium per teaspoon, is totally soluble in hot water and is highly bioavailable.

Chelated magnesium (magnesium glycinate) is magnesium bound in a complex of glycine and lysine. It is easily absorbed and highly bioavailable. The magnesium (elemental) content per tablet or capsule is usually 100 mg.

>> > Im convinced that being depressed and anxious and sleeping poorly doesn't help my sexual function and besides it makes it very difficult to hold down a job, meet women and all the other elements of a normal life. Obviously SSRIs are a total No-No. But if I dont get this depression under control i probably wont be alive long enough to see any sort of effective treatment for PSSSD!> > What have you guys tried that has helped?> > Ive tried fish oil for ages but never noticed much difference> > Similarly with vitamins and minerals.> > Currently im researching information about leaky gut/candida/parasites and gluten sensitivities. Im also thinking about trying a detox...as a lot of writers seem to think depression is a disease of toxicity> > People go on about therapy but it never did anything for me. Maybe there is a mental element but i know plenty of people who think very negatively and while they are unhappy they do not have any of the typical symptoms of depression....anhedonia, tiredness, etc> > Would welcome any treatments>

[Guest guest]

Hi viking,

are you sure you are suffering from normal depression or is it rather the

emotional blunting that comes along with pssd. you are the only one who can

distinguish that. as long i am suffering from the pssd i dont have the normal

depression but instead the apathy and anhedonie that comes along with my pssd. i

know the difference. depression was a profound sadness and being unhappy but

this anhedonie is a complete lack of emotion and a real killer. i would take

bake any depression i had before pssd only to be able to feel again. as there is

no cure for pssd there is no cure for the anhedonie that comes along with it.

Jens

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> Im convinced that being depressed and anxious and sleeping poorly doesn't help

my sexual function and besides it makes it very difficult to hold down a job,

meet women and all the other elements of a normal life. Obviously SSRIs are a

total No-No. But if I dont get this depression under control i probably wont be

alive long enough to see any sort of effective treatment for PSSSD!

>

> What have you guys tried that has helped?

>

> Ive tried fish oil for ages but never noticed much difference

>

> Similarly with vitamins and minerals.

>

> Currently im researching information about leaky gut/candida/parasites and

gluten sensitivities. Im also thinking about trying a detox...as a lot of

writers seem to think depression is a disease of toxicity

>

> People go on about therapy but it never did anything for me. Maybe there is a

mental element but i know plenty of people who think very negatively and while

they are unhappy they do not have any of the typical symptoms of

depression....anhedonia, tiredness, etc

>

> Would welcome any treatments

>

[Guest guest]

Vitamin B6 (especially in the form of P-5-P). Some people suffer from a lack of

B6 (many of whom have PSSD), which leads to low serotonin. If you're among

those, supplementing B6 can do wonders.

Best

teephos

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> Im convinced that being depressed and anxious and sleeping poorly doesn't help

my sexual function and besides it makes it very difficult to hold down a job,

meet women and all the other elements of a normal life. Obviously SSRIs are a

total No-No. But if I dont get this depression under control i probably wont be

alive long enough to see any sort of effective treatment for PSSSD!

>

> What have you guys tried that has helped?

>

> Ive tried fish oil for ages but never noticed much difference

>

> Similarly with vitamins and minerals.

>

> Currently im researching information about leaky gut/candida/parasites and

gluten sensitivities. Im also thinking about trying a detox...as a lot of

writers seem to think depression is a disease of toxicity

>

> People go on about therapy but it never did anything for me. Maybe there is a

mental element but i know plenty of people who think very negatively and while

they are unhappy they do not have any of the typical symptoms of

depression....anhedonia, tiredness, etc

>

> Would welcome any treatments

>

[Guest guest]

The only fully natural treatment for depression, anxiety, insomnia I've heard

(as have we all) is to exercise well.

I'm also finding value in attending a mens group via my health plan. The group

is able to frankly talk about sexual problems due to SSRI, and provide support,

as well as cognitive behavioral therapy suggestions for dealing with issues.

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>

> Im convinced that being depressed and anxious and sleeping poorly doesn't help

my sexual function and besides it makes it very difficult to hold down a job,

meet women and all the other elements of a normal life. Obviously SSRIs are a

total No-No. But if I dont get this depression under control i probably wont be

alive long enough to see any sort of effective treatment for PSSSD!

>

> What have you guys tried that has helped?

>

> Ive tried fish oil for ages but never noticed much difference

>

> Similarly with vitamins and minerals.

>

> Currently im researching information about leaky gut/candida/parasites and

gluten sensitivities. Im also thinking about trying a detox...as a lot of

writers seem to think depression is a disease of toxicity

>

> People go on about therapy but it never did anything for me. Maybe there is a

mental element but i know plenty of people who think very negatively and while

they are unhappy they do not have any of the typical symptoms of

depression....anhedonia, tiredness, etc

>

> Would welcome any treatments

>

[Guest guest]

Vitamin B6 (especially in the form of P-5-P). Some people suffer from a lack of

B6 (many of whom have pyroluria -->

http://www.drkaslow.com/html/pyroluria.html), which leads to low serotonin. If

you're among

those, supplementing B6 can do wonders for you.

Best

teephos

[Guest guest]

Yeah I think Im going to give the B vitamins a good go. Ive taken multi B vitamins on-off over the years in a haphazard way but perhaps if I take them religiously they will build up and have an effect.Exercise is my idea of hell and with depression it is difficult to muster the motivation. I do walk a lot naturally. But perhaps a rigorous exercise programme of jogging or something is what I need.

 

Vitamin B6 (especially in the form of P-5-P). Some people suffer from a lack of B6 (many of whom have PSSD), which leads to low serotonin. If you're among those, supplementing B6 can do wonders.

Best

teephos

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> Im convinced that being depressed and anxious and sleeping poorly doesn't help my sexual function and besides it makes it very difficult to hold down a job, meet women and all the other elements of a normal life. Obviously SSRIs are a total No-No. But if I dont get this depression under control i probably wont be alive long enough to see any sort of effective treatment for PSSSD!

>

> What have you guys tried that has helped?

>

> Ive tried fish oil for ages but never noticed much difference

>

> Similarly with vitamins and minerals.

>

> Currently im researching information about leaky gut/candida/parasites and gluten sensitivities. Im also thinking about trying a detox...as a lot of writers seem to think depression is a disease of toxicity

>

> People go on about therapy but it never did anything for me. Maybe there is a mental element but i know plenty of people who think very negatively and while they are unhappy they do not have any of the typical symptoms of depression....anhedonia, tiredness, etc

>

> Would welcome any treatments

>

[Guest guest]

Oh Jens I think you could be right.Before going on SSRIs while I felt shit I had motivation and was able to work hard. But since SSRIs and ESPECIALLY since Amytrypyline (a Tricyclic) i have just felt completely unmotivated and lazy and work has become a real chore. Basically I feel bored all the time and everything feels unpleasant.

PSSD is bad enough but all the other mental problems SSRIs have given me as side effects are totally soul destroyingI think if I had left my depression alone and resisted the siren call of SSRIs maybe with time my brain would have healed itself naturally. But because SSRIs have probably done more damage to the brain than depression ever could have, it is quite possible the only option is to try other medications to balance my brain out....perhaps bupropion or stimulants

Yeah I think Im going to give the B vitamins a good go. Ive taken multi B vitamins on-off over the years in a haphazard way but perhaps if I take them religiously they will build up and have an effect.Exercise is my idea of hell and with depression it is difficult to muster the motivation. I do walk a lot naturally. But perhaps a rigorous exercise programme of jogging or something is what I need.

 

Vitamin B6 (especially in the form of P-5-P). Some people suffer from a lack of B6 (many of whom have PSSD), which leads to low serotonin. If you're among those, supplementing B6 can do wonders.

Best

teephos

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> Im convinced that being depressed and anxious and sleeping poorly doesn't help my sexual function and besides it makes it very difficult to hold down a job, meet women and all the other elements of a normal life. Obviously SSRIs are a total No-No. But if I dont get this depression under control i probably wont be alive long enough to see any sort of effective treatment for PSSSD!

>

> What have you guys tried that has helped?

>

> Ive tried fish oil for ages but never noticed much difference

>

> Similarly with vitamins and minerals.

>

> Currently im researching information about leaky gut/candida/parasites and gluten sensitivities. Im also thinking about trying a detox...as a lot of writers seem to think depression is a disease of toxicity

>

> People go on about therapy but it never did anything for me. Maybe there is a mental element but i know plenty of people who think very negatively and while they are unhappy they do not have any of the typical symptoms of depression....anhedonia, tiredness, etc

>

> Would welcome any treatments

>

[Guest guest]

Correction: I meant to say that people who suffer from a lack of Vitamin B6

often have Pyroluria (http://www.drkaslow.com/html/pyroluria.html), not PSSD.

Best

teephos

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> > Im convinced that being depressed and anxious and sleeping poorly doesn't

help my sexual function and besides it makes it very difficult to hold down a

job, meet women and all the other elements of a normal life. Obviously SSRIs are

a total No-No. But if I dont get this depression under control i probably wont

be alive long enough to see any sort of effective treatment for PSSSD!

> >

> > What have you guys tried that has helped?

> >

> > Ive tried fish oil for ages but never noticed much difference

> >

> > Similarly with vitamins and minerals.

> >

> > Currently im researching information about leaky gut/candida/parasites and

gluten sensitivities. Im also thinking about trying a detox...as a lot of

writers seem to think depression is a disease of toxicity

> >

> > People go on about therapy but it never did anything for me. Maybe there is

a mental element but i know plenty of people who think very negatively and while

they are unhappy they do not have any of the typical symptoms of

depression....anhedonia, tiredness, etc

> >

> > Would welcome any treatments

> >

>

[Guest guest]

usually no more than 5 to 25mg daily is more than enough.

Keeper RNEnzyme Therapist

Re: Any natural treatments for depression/anxiety/insomnia

Vitamin B6 (especially in the form of P-5-P). Some people suffer from a lack of B6 (many of whom have pyroluria --> http://www.drkaslow.com/html/pyroluria.html), which leads to low serotonin. If you're amongthose, supplementing B6 can do wonders for you.Bestteephos

[Guest guest]

I'm sure your recommendation is correct for most people. If someone is

pyroluric, however, 50mg daily is standard (several products targeting

pyrolurics contain 50mg of P5P). And since many pyrolurics develop depression, I

wouldn't be surprised if some here suffer from it. But I definitely wouldn't

start taking P5P, especially at higher doses, without determining the need first

(Vitamin B6 levels can be measured via the marker Cystathionine).

Also, it appears recommendable to slowly increase the dosage until the target

dose is reached, not taking it right away.

Best

teephos

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> usually no more than 5 to 25mg daily is more than enough.

> Keeper RN

> Enzyme Therapist

> Re: Any natural treatments for

depression/anxiety/insomnia

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> Vitamin B6 (especially in the form of P-5-P). Some people suffer from a lack

of B6 (many of whom have pyroluria -->

http://www.drkaslow.com/html/pyroluria.html<http://www.drkaslow.com/html/pyrolur\

ia.html>), which leads to low serotonin. If you're among

> those, supplementing B6 can do wonders for you.

>

> Best

> teephos

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[Guest guest]

I take a B-50 complex and get lots of zinc as I eat a lot of red meat so doubt I have pyroluria.

 

What do u guys think about 5-HTP? Its similarities with SSRIs put me off but Ive read some articles saying that you can just use it for a month or two to top up your serotonin stores and then you can discontinue. While SSRIs actually destroy serotonin receptors leaving you with less serotonin when you go off them.

 

The only other thing im looking into is leaky gut. I have a pretty decent diet and take multivitamins and magnesium. So maybe the issue is absorption?

 

I'm sure your recommendation is correct for most people. If someone is pyroluric, however, 50mg daily is standard (several products targeting pyrolurics contain 50mg of P5P). And since many pyrolurics develop depression, I wouldn't be surprised if some here suffer from it. But I definitely wouldn't start taking P5P, especially at higher doses, without determining the need first (Vitamin B6 levels can be measured via the marker Cystathionine).

Also, it appears recommendable to slowly increase the dosage until the target dose is reached, not taking it right away.Bestteephos

>> usually no more than 5 to 25mg daily is more than enough.

> Keeper RN> Enzyme Therapist> Re: Any natural treatments for depression/anxiety/insomnia> > >

> Vitamin B6 (especially in the form of P-5-P). Some people suffer from a lack of B6 (many of whom have pyroluria --> http://www.drkaslow.com/html/pyroluria.html<http://www.drkaslow.com/html/pyroluria.html>), which leads to low serotonin. If you're among

> those, supplementing B6 can do wonders for you.> > Best> teephos>

[Guest guest]

Hey , I didn't mean to suggest you have pyroluria. This would be

extremely presumptuous not knowing anything about you and also in the absence of

any tests. That said, your eating habits have nothing to do with pyroluria.

Pyroluria is a chronic metabolic malfunction, usually (always?) already present

when you're born.

As for 5-HTP: I took it when I already had PSSD. It didn't have any negative

effect sexually. However, my heart ached the whole time and it didn't do

anything for me regarding my mood (and I do have low serotonin). I've read that

conversion from 5-HTP into serotonin doesn't work well/at in some people.

Best

teephos

[Guest guest]

Dear Viking,

I haven't read this book yet, but a friend told me it's worth reading:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2010/jul/19/beat-depression-without-drugs

Kay

http://www.youtube.com/user/Kay1948

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> > Im convinced that being depressed and anxious and sleeping poorly doesn't

help my sexual function and besides it makes it very difficult to hold down a

job, meet women and all the other elements of a normal life. Obviously SSRIs are

a total No-No. But if I dont get this depression under control i probably wont

be alive long enough to see any sort of effective treatment for PSSSD!

> >

> > What have you guys tried that has helped?

> >

> > Ive tried fish oil for ages but never noticed much difference

> >

> > Similarly with vitamins and minerals.

> >

> > Currently im researching information about leaky gut/candida/parasites and

gluten sensitivities. Im also thinking about trying a detox...as a lot of

writers seem to think depression is a disease of toxicity

> >

> > People go on about therapy but it never did anything for me. Maybe there is

a mental element but i know plenty of people who think very negatively and while

they are unhappy they do not have any of the typical symptoms of

depression....anhedonia, tiredness, etc

> >

> > Would welcome any treatments

> >

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