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I have been baking with sourdough for years but I have always used

yeast to make the starter. Recently I have attempted to get a starter

without yeast. Twice I have gotten a starter that works in that the

bread rises fine and has a sour taste but it is also bitter. I am

getting a film over the starter that is probably a type of yeast. I am

guessing this is the problem as it has a slight odd odor. I am curious

if anyone else has had this issue.

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