Guest guest Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 -- > Can anyone tell me if Copha is a good source of coconut oil. I assume you meant " copra " , right? If so, copra is dried coconut and is not the best raw material for making coconut oil. In India, the coconut oil made from copra is not used for cooking, and is mostly used as hair oil or rubbing on the feet. I believe there are sources of good VCO in Australia. I know there are some in NZ. See here - /links/Sources_of_Coconut_O\ _001098400401/ You may want to search the archives using Onibasu, I believe someone did find sources for VCO in Oz. Anyhow, ordering from NZ will surely be cheaper than ordering from the US. > Hardened Coconut Oil What do they mean by " hardened " ? Hard or soft depends on the room temperature. If it has been artifically hardered, then it is most likely hydrogenated. Candies often contain hydrogenated coconut oil or palm oil. > Soya Bean Lecithin. Not good ! HTH, Pratick __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 > Copha is sold as a solid white block in the fridge section of > supermarkets next to the butter. The ingredients are: > > Hardened Coconut Oil > Soya Bean Lecithin. > If it has " hardened coconut oil " it is probably hydrogenated, I wouldn't eat it. > It's impossible to find any other source of coconut oil here but I'll > keep looking!!! If you use the google site search thus: http://www.google.com.au/search?num=100 & hl=en & q=%22Coconut+Oil%22+site%3A.com.au\ & btnG=Search & meta you will come up with a few online sources. regards, Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 Hi Bruce; If coconut is in the fridge, it becomes solid. I am a bit confused about that...please clarify. vsp On 4/14/05, Bruce Stordock <stordock@...> wrote: > > > > Copha is sold as a solid white block in the fridge section of > > supermarkets next to the butter. The ingredients are: > > > > Hardened Coconut Oil > > Soya Bean Lecithin. > > > > If it has " hardened coconut oil " it is probably hydrogenated, I wouldn't > eat it. > > > It's impossible to find any other source of coconut oil here but I'll > > keep looking!!! > > If you use the google site search thus: > > http://www.google.com.au/search?num=100 & hl=en & q=%22Coconut+Oil%22+site%3A.com.au\ & btnG=Search & meta > you will come up with a few online sources. > > regards, Bruce > > > <HTML><!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC " -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN " " > http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd " ><BODY><FONT > FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " > > <B>IMPORTANT ADDRESSES</B> > <UL> > <LI><B><A HREF= " / " >NATIVE > NUTRITION</A></B> online</LI> > <LI><B><A HREF= " http://onibasu.com/ " >SEARCH</A></B> the entire message > archive with Onibasu</LI> > </UL></FONT> > <PRE><FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " ><B><A HREF= " mailto: > -owner " >LIST OWNER:</A></B> Idol > <B>MODERATORS:</B> Heidi Schuppenhauer > Wanita Sears > </FONT></PRE> > </BODY> > </HTML> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 --- " S. Pritchard " <vspritchard@...> wrote: > Hi Bruce; > If coconut is in the fridge, it becomes solid. > I am a bit confused about that...please clarify. > vsp " Hardened " coconut oil sounds awfully like hydrogenated. Down Under, they probably have different names for the same things __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 Copha is probably the brand name. In NZ we have a similar product called Kremelta, which is coconut oil that has been partially hydrogenated so that it stays solid on the supermarket shelf. At least I assume that's why they do it. , if you email me offlist, I'll put you in touch with the place I get my coconut oil from in NZ, and see if they can help you. I'm going away for the weekend tho, and won't be back till Monday arvo. Deb -----Original Message----- From: Pratick Mukherjee [mailto:pratickmukherjee@...] " Hardened " coconut oil sounds awfully like hydrogenated. Down Under, they probably have different names for the same things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 > If coconut is in the fridge, it becomes solid. > I am a bit confused about that...please clarify. I'm just guessing , but the process of hydrogenation is used to " harden " vegetable oils. The insertion of hydrogen atoms at the double bond sites of unsaturated fatty acids creates a " hardened " oil which has a higher melting point. I would guess as well that any process they would note on the label would be a man made process of some sort and not simply the lowering of temperature that causes coconut oil to become solid when refrigerated. Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 On Thursday, April 14, 2005, at 07:21 AM, wrote: > Hardened Coconut Oil > Soya Bean Lecithin. > > So what's the verdict? Good or bad? > > It's impossible to find any other source of coconut oil here but I'll > keep looking!!! > > Cheers, > > in Oz > > So is the solid Extra Virgin Coconut Oil bad? Should all our coconut oil be liquid regardless of the temperature? Thanks, Sand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 Sandy -- --- Sandy <samack@...> wrote: > So is the solid Extra Virgin Coconut Oil bad? > Should all our coconut > oil be liquid regardless of the temperature? Not necessarily - VCO is naturally solid depending on the storage temperature. In warmer climates, it usually stays liquid, whereas in colder places it stays solid. So if you keep yours at room temperature, it may be liquid (depending on the temperature insde your house). But if you store it in a cold cellar for instance, it will be solid. However, it CO has been artifically " solidified " by hydrogenation, that's when it is undesirable. -Pratick __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 On Saturday, April 30, 2005, at 02:12 PM, Pratick Mukherjee wrote: > Not necessarily - VCO is naturally solid depending on the storage > temperature. > In warmer climates, it usually stays liquid, whereas in colder places > it stays solid. > So if you keep yours at room temperature, it may be liquid (depending > on the temperature > insde your house). > But if you store it in a cold cellar for instance, it will be solid. > > However, it CO has been artifically " solidified " by hydrogenation, > that's when it is > undesirable. > > -Pratick > > Thank you Pratick for answering my questions. Do you know at what temperature the CO liquifies? Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 --- Sandy <samack@...> wrote: > Thank you Pratick for answering my questions. Do you know at what > temperature the CO liquifies? It is liquid above 76*F and solid below that. -Pratick __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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