Should I take Luvox?

[Guest guest]

Dear All,

I've been on SSRI's before. About 5 years ago I took a small dose of Zoloft for

a couple of Month. My sexual function stayed normal. Then 2 years later I took

Celexa or (Lexapro) for a couple of month again. I noticed a decrease in Libido;

after a while I stopped taking it. Seems like everything is back to normal.

Now my OCD is flaring back up and I don't feel like I can handle it much longer.

I am depressed and not feeling much joy at all lately. My Psych recommended I

start back up on Luvox this time.

I am not so sure if I should because of PSSD. I am scared that it will happen to

me and I will not recover from it.

Does the fact that I didn't get PSSD from taking SSRI's before indicate that I

might not be prone to developing PSSD? Or is it possible to get it anyways.

What would you do in my situation? what are the alternatives? how can I beat

anxiety?

Take it (Y) (N)?

[Guest guest]

Antidepressants won't cure you but just suppress the symptoms and so when you come off them in a few months, or years time, your symptoms will return. In all this time your brain is being damaged in some way even if the PSSD isn't permanent. These drugs stop working for most people at some point and then you are back to square one, which usually means more drugs, and more damage. From my point of view PSSD is far was than any depression or anxiety I have ever experienced.

If your symptoms are unbearable we are not really qualified to comment. I guess if I was suffering beyond what I could endure I would become very tempted by anything that could give relief too. But in my case I would never succumb because I would worry too much about getting PSSD and so I would go through just as much hell, if not more.

There are better ways to treat OCD. In the book, When Panic Attacks, Dr Burns say's CBT without drugs has been demonstrated to be more effective in treating anxiety disorders, including OCD , than CBT with drugs. Read this first!

http://www.amazon.com/When-Panic-Attacks-Drug-Free-Anxiety/dp/076792083X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8 & s=books & qid=1265910635 & sr=1-1

Or you could try ACT, but it takes a lot of commitment and is counterintuitive - you let go and allow things to be and this has the parodoxical effect of brining relief. When you give up the struggle [to beat OCD, or whatever] our minds relax and this has a healing effect on the brain.

Example: You are desperate to sleep as you need to get up early and talk at a meeting. You can't sleep and so you struggle to get to sleep scared that if you don't your speech will be terrible and you will be nervous. But what if you give up the struggle and accept no sleep, and accept being nervous the next day and maybe even giving a lousey talk. With ACT you learn how to stop sruggling and fully accept. Now when you fully accept, really fully accept, with a willingness to suffer if that is the case, guess what happens? When you truly surrender and allow things to be, falling asleep is no longer an issue anymore. Now guess what happens? Undisturbed by the events ahead you start to fall peacefully asleep.

ACT can work for OCD as well because when we resist obsessive thoughts and try to avoid the suffering they cause they get worse, but when we accept them, they start to go away and bother you less. Do your best not to think or Pink Elephants for the next 5 minutes - resists these thoughts. Did they go away? Like hell they did. But what if you learned how to let them come and go as they please to the point where they don't bother you anymore. You are then cured.

http://www.amazon.com/Mindfulness-Acceptance-Workbook-Anxiety-Commitment/dp/1572244992/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8 & s=books & qid=1265911074 & sr=1-2#noop

Kavy

>> Dear All,> > I've been on SSRI's before. About 5 years ago I took a small dose of Zoloft for a couple of Month. My sexual function stayed normal. Then 2 years later I took Celexa or (Lexapro) for a couple of month again. I noticed a decrease in Libido; after a while I stopped taking it. Seems like everything is back to normal. > > Now my OCD is flaring back up and I don't feel like I can handle it much longer. I am depressed and not feeling much joy at all lately. My Psych recommended I start back up on Luvox this time. > > I am not so sure if I should because of PSSD. I am scared that it will happen to me and I will not recover from it. > > Does the fact that I didn't get PSSD from taking SSRI's before indicate that I might not be prone to developing PSSD? Or is it possible to get it anyways. > > What would you do in my situation? what are the alternatives? how can I beat anxiety? > > Take it (Y) (N)?> > >

[Guest guest]

Hey ,

personally, I wouldn't take chances. And based on your description, it sounds

like you might take an SSRI for a longer period of time which probably increases

the risk of permanent changes.

Have you looked into alternatives to SSRIs? St. 's Wort definitely helped me

with depression and OCD. It can have side effects; they're definitely not in the

SSRI league, though. Some people do well with 5-HTP. Etc.

Also, I'd suggest you try to figure out why you are depressed & suffer from OCD:

trauma, hashimoto, pyroluria, low/high histamine, adrenal fatigue etc. etc.

There are many possible causes - some rather controversial. On a related note:

If there's one thing I wouldn't trust a psychiatrist with, it's finding the real

cause of psychological issues - sad as it is.

As long as you don't know what is causing depression and OCD, you'll be

restricted to treating the symptoms.

Best

teephos

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I tend to agree with Kaivey. Through my years of reading and self traininig, different schools of thoughts tend to lead to acceptance as mean of recovery. EFT (emotional treatment technique) teaches you to accept your condition, ACT teaches to accept in one way or another and also many individual experiences dealing with depression has been soothed through acceptance. Of course connecting with self and understanding how to accept during the frustration of having the problem remains an issue of how each individual develops the technique to accept. It will take some training.

Adil

To: SSRIsex Sent: Thu, February 11, 2010 6:26:46 PMSubject: Re: Should I take Luvox?

Antidepressants won't cure you but just suppress the symptoms and so when you come off them in a few months, or years time, your symptoms will return. In all this time your brain is being damaged in some way even if the PSSD isn't permanent. These drugs stop working for most people at some point and then you are back to square one, which usually means more drugs, and more damage. From my point of view PSSD is far was than any depression or anxiety I have ever experienced.

If your symptoms are unbearable we are not really qualified to comment. I guess if I was suffering beyond what I could endure I would become very tempted by anything that could give relief too. But in my case I would never succumb because I would worry too much about getting PSSD and so I would go through just as much hell, if not more.

There are better ways to treat OCD. In the book, When Panic Attacks, Dr Burns say's CBT without drugs has been demonstrated to be more effective in treating anxiety disorders, including OCD , than CBT with drugs. Read this first!

http://www.amazon. com/When- Panic-Attacks- Drug-Free- Anxiety/dp/ 076792083X/ ref=sr_1_ 1?ie=UTF8 & s=books & qid=1265910635 & sr=1-1

Or you could try ACT, but it takes a lot of commitment and is counterintuitive - you let go and allow things to be and this has the parodoxical effect of brining relief. When you give up the struggle [to beat OCD, or whatever] our minds relax and this has a healing effect on the brain.

Example: You are desperate to sleep as you need to get up early and talk at a meeting. You can't sleep and so you struggle to get to sleep scared that if you don't your speech will be terrible and you will be nervous. But what if you give up the struggle and accept no sleep, and accept being nervous the next day and maybe even giving a lousey talk. With ACT you learn how to stop sruggling and fully accept. Now when you fully accept, really fully accept, with a willingness to suffer if that is the case, guess what happens? When you truly surrender and allow things to be, falling asleep is no longer an issue anymore. Now guess what happens? Undisturbed by the events ahead you start to fall peacefully asleep.

ACT can work for OCD as well because when we resist obsessive thoughts and try to avoid the suffering they cause they get worse, but when we accept them, they start to go away and bother you less. Do your best not to think or Pink Elephants for the next 5 minutes - resists these thoughts. Did they go away? Like hell they did. But what if you learned how to let them come and go as they please to the point where they don't bother you anymore. You are then cured.

http://www.amazon. com/Mindfulness- Acceptance- Workbook- Anxiety-Commitme nt/dp/1572244992 /ref=sr_1_ 2?ie=UTF8 & s=books & qid=1265911074 & sr=1-2#noop

Kavy

>> Dear All,> > I've been on SSRI's before. About 5 years ago I took a small dose of Zoloft for a couple of Month. My sexual function stayed normal. Then 2 years later I took Celexa or (Lexapro) for a couple of month again. I noticed a decrease in Libido; after a while I stopped taking it. Seems like everything is back to normal. > > Now my OCD is flaring back up and I don't feel like I can handle it much longer. I am depressed and not feeling much joy at all lately. My Psych recommended I start back up on Luvox this time. > > I am not so sure if I should because of PSSD. I am scared that it will happen to me and I will not recover from it. > > Does the fact that I didn't get PSSD from taking SSRI's before indicate that I might not be prone to developing PSSD? Or is it possible to get it anyways.

> > What would you do in my situation? what are the alternatives? how can I beat anxiety? > > Take it (Y) (N)?> > >

[Guest guest]

Hey ,

I took Celexa for five years without noticable side effects. I went off for two months, went back on, and I have had a life destroying case of PSSD, with unbearable mental and physical symptoms. Taking SSRIs are like playing Russian Roulette. You took them, and you weren't destroyed. Thank whatever Higher Power you believe in, and don't EVER touch the stuff again. That's just my advice. Take it or leave it:)

[Guest guest]

You are a lucky person but how did you become aware of PSSD then?

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> Dear All,

>

> I've been on SSRI's before. About 5 years ago I took a small dose of Zoloft

for a couple of Month. My sexual function stayed normal. Then 2 years later I

took Celexa or (Lexapro) for a couple of month again. I noticed a decrease in

Libido; after a while I stopped taking it. Seems like everything is back to

normal.

>

> Now my OCD is flaring back up and I don't feel like I can handle it much

longer. I am depressed and not feeling much joy at all lately. My Psych

recommended I start back up on Luvox this time.

>

> I am not so sure if I should because of PSSD. I am scared that it will happen

to me and I will not recover from it.

>

> Does the fact that I didn't get PSSD from taking SSRI's before indicate that I

might not be prone to developing PSSD? Or is it possible to get it anyways.

>

> What would you do in my situation? what are the alternatives? how can I beat

anxiety?

>

> Take it (Y) (N)?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I would like to thank all of you for your valuable input! I will keep my hands

off SSRI's for the rest of my life and I believe that this decision is for the

best. After all, we as humans should be able to cope with whatever life throws

at us WITHOUT the use of artificial man made products that disrupt our natural

way of functioning. The brain especially is a very delicate matter.

For the ones that ask how I became aware of PSSD. Let me put it this way; if you

have OCD you tend to obsess about all kinds of things, including Sideeffects of

medication. I started researching PSSD on the Internet. This is how I came

across PSSD.

I am not sure if I already suffer from it because my OCD keeps on telling me I

do somehow. I can name the facts.

- I get errections

- I can still have sex and enjoy it

- I masturbate regularly

Now those facts I believe exclude me from diagnosis of PSSD but I don't enjoy

sex as much as I used to do which I attribute to my ongoing struggle with OCD

(Particularly the sexually focused obsessions) and the depression.

Kind Regards

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> > Dear All,

> >

> > I've been on SSRI's before. About 5 years ago I took a small dose of Zoloft

for a couple of Month. My sexual function stayed normal. Then 2 years later I

took Celexa or (Lexapro) for a couple of month again. I noticed a decrease in

Libido; after a while I stopped taking it. Seems like everything is back to

normal.

> >

> > Now my OCD is flaring back up and I don't feel like I can handle it much

longer. I am depressed and not feeling much joy at all lately. My Psych

recommended I start back up on Luvox this time.

> >

> > I am not so sure if I should because of PSSD. I am scared that it will

happen to me and I will not recover from it.

> >

> > Does the fact that I didn't get PSSD from taking SSRI's before indicate that

I might not be prone to developing PSSD? Or is it possible to get it anyways.

> >

> > What would you do in my situation? what are the alternatives? how can I beat

anxiety?

> >

> > Take it (Y) (N)?

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

You can never be sure. Yet, you don't seem to be a candidate either. How serious

is your anxiety? You may get it over by non-ssri ad's along with therapy. Note

that you need to take SSRI's for at least six months to get cured. By " a couple

of months " I get that you haven't taken them for as long as 6 months.

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> > > Dear All,

> > >

> > > I've been on SSRI's before. About 5 years ago I took a small dose of

Zoloft for a couple of Month. My sexual function stayed normal. Then 2 years

later I took Celexa or (Lexapro) for a couple of month again. I noticed a

decrease in Libido; after a while I stopped taking it. Seems like everything is

back to normal.

> > >

> > > Now my OCD is flaring back up and I don't feel like I can handle it much

longer. I am depressed and not feeling much joy at all lately. My Psych

recommended I start back up on Luvox this time.

> > >

> > > I am not so sure if I should because of PSSD. I am scared that it will

happen to me and I will not recover from it.

> > >

> > > Does the fact that I didn't get PSSD from taking SSRI's before indicate

that I might not be prone to developing PSSD? Or is it possible to get it

anyways.

> > >

> > > What would you do in my situation? what are the alternatives? how can I

beat anxiety?

> > >

> > > Take it (Y) (N)?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

What do you mean you need to be on SSRI's for at least 6 months to be cured?To: SSRIsex Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 3:30:16 PMSubject: Re: Should I take Luvox?

You can never be sure. Yet, you don't seem to be a candidate either. How serious is your anxiety? You may get it over by non-ssri ad's along with therapy. Note that you need to take SSRI's for at least six months to get cured. By "a couple of months" I get that you haven't taken them for as long as 6 months.

> > >

> > > Dear All,

> > >

> > > I've been on SSRI's before. About 5 years ago I took a small dose of Zoloft for a couple of Month. My sexual function stayed normal. Then 2 years later I took Celexa or (Lexapro) for a couple of month again. I noticed a decrease in Libido; after a while I stopped taking it. Seems like everything is back to normal.

> > >

> > > Now my OCD is flaring back up and I don't feel like I can handle it much longer. I am depressed and not feeling much joy at all lately. My Psych recommended I start back up on Luvox this time.

> > >

> > > I am not so sure if I should because of PSSD. I am scared that it will happen to me and I will not recover from it.

> > >

> > > Does the fact that I didn't get PSSD from taking SSRI's before indicate that I might not be prone to developing PSSD? Or is it possible to get it anyways.

> > >

> > > What would you do in my situation? what are the alternatives? how can I beat anxiety?

> > >

> > > Take it (Y) (N)?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

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