Guest guest Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 I used L tyrosine to deal with PSSD, not depression. I had itching on skin occassionally, but generally well tolerated. My orgasm pleasure inproved somewhat. Subject: L tyrosineTo: SSRIsex Date: Thursday, April 8, 2010, 5:39 AM Not wanting to take another SSRI has anyone taken L tyrosine to help with depression and or anxiety? Does anyone know if it can cause sexual dysfunction? Any feed back would be great. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 O cool, thanks. I heard that it was suppose to help with PSSD also. So you didn't notice if it helped with your depression To: SSRIsex Sent: Thu, April 8, 2010 6:59:20 AMSubject: Re: L tyrosine I used L tyrosine to deal with PSSD, not depression. I had itching on skin occassionally, but generally well tolerated. My orgasm pleasure inproved somewhat. From: Jensen <juliejensen47@ yahoo.com>Subject: L tyrosineTo: SSRIsex@yahoogroups .comDate: Thursday, April 8, 2010, 5:39 AM Not wanting to take another SSRI has anyone taken L tyrosine to help with depression and or anxiety? Does anyone know if it can cause sexual dysfunction? Any feed back would be great. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Hi ,5HTP seems to be better for depression - that's what I read in the book by Murray - 5HTP: the natural way to overcome depression, obesity and insomnia. It's quite an interesting book.What's the most important 5HTP gives no side effects - so no PSSD.AgataTo: SSRIsex Sent: Thu, April 8, 2010 1:39:04 PMSubject: L tyrosine Not wanting to take another SSRI has anyone taken L tyrosine to help with depression and or anxiety? Does anyone know if it can cause sexual dysfunction? Any feed back would be great. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 After 3 months of Zoloft, my emotions went so numb I am forever antidepressed lol.....If I'm told I have a terminal illness and I had 3 months to live, I'll probably shrug off and move on. I just don't have a care in the world. The very few days I have had any emotions, I was also PSSD free. So, bottom line is I don't feel depressed anymore. So sad.... From: Jensen <juliejensen47@ yahoo.com>Subject: L tyrosineTo: SSRIsex@yahoogroups .comDate: Thursday, April 8, 2010, 5:39 AM Not wanting to take another SSRI has anyone taken L tyrosine to help with depression and or anxiety? Does anyone know if it can cause sexual dysfunction? Any feed back would be great. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 5HTP can give you nausea, but apart from that it's pretty benign.I use tyrosine because it seems to give me more "fuel" for emotions, if that makes sense. It's a precursor to noradrenaline and dopamine and I have more feelings if I take it regularly, as opposed to feeling that cold and empty feeling the antidepressants left me with. So I suppose it could help your depression. It doesn't work very well, but it's something. Doesn't help my sexual dysfunction. It's pretty safe AFAIC, no side effects to speak of except at very high doses (I presume).Subject: Re: L tyrosineTo: SSRIsex Received: Friday, 9 April, 2010, 1:52 AM Hi ,5HTP seems to be better for depression - that's what I read in the book by Murray - 5HTP: the natural way to overcome depression, obesity and insomnia. It's quite an interesting book.What's the most important 5HTP gives no side effects - so no PSSD.AgataFrom: Jensen <juliejensen47@ yahoo.com>To: SSRIsex@yahoogroups .comSent: Thu, April 8, 2010 1:39:04 PMSubject: L tyrosine Not wanting to take another SSRI has anyone taken L tyrosine to help with depression and or anxiety? Does anyone know if it can cause sexual dysfunction? Any feed back would be great. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 5-HTP: http://www.smart-publications.com/depression/5htp.php >> Hi ,> 5HTP seems to be better for depression - that's what I read in the book by Murray - 5HTP: the natural way to overcome depression, obesity and insomnia. It's quite an interesting book.> What's the most important 5HTP gives no side effects - so no PSSD.> Agata> > > > > ________________________________> To: SSRIsex > Sent: Thu, April 8, 2010 1:39:04 PM> Subject: L tyrosine> > > Not wanting to take another SSRI has anyone taken L tyrosine to help with depression and or anxiety? Does anyone know if it can cause sexual dysfunction? Any feed back would be great.> > thanks> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 Here's some interesting information on neurotransmitters: How are Neurotransmitters Produced? Amino acids are the raw materials for neurotransmitters and a range of vitamins and minerals are co-factors necessary for their production. There are about 28 amino acids used in the body. The liver manufactures about 80 percent of them, while the remaining 20 percent must be obtained from our diet, hence their name 'essential amino acids'. The essential amino acids are derived from proteins, and studies have shown that diets deficient in protein will lead to lower neurotransmitter levels and consequent mental health problems. The amino acid essential for serotonin production is tryptophan, while phenylalanine and tyrosine are the building blocks for dopamine and noradrenaline. The figure below demonstrates some of the important biochemical steps required for the production of the neurotransmitters dopamine and serotonin. As is demonstrated in the figure below, tyrosine and tryptophan go through a number of metabolic processes in the body before they are finally converted into the neurotransmitters dopamine and serotonin. For this to occur effectively, the body must have adequate stores of specific vitamins and minerals. For example, folic acid, iron, vitamin B6, vitamin C, magnesium and copper are all important co-factors crucial for the production of dopamine. Serotonin production relies on adequate levels of calcium, folic acid, iron, magnesium, vitamin B6, vitamin C and zinc in the body. This fact is often overlooked when it comes to treating mood problems. Unless the body has a good supply of nutrients, a number of physiological processes will be stalled and mood problems will result. What are the Causes of Neurotransmitter Deficiencies? Neurotransmitter levels are influenced by a number of factors. Obviously nutrition and the body's ability to absorb nutrients plays a big part, but there are number of other major influences on neurotransmitter production. Some of these are detailed in the table below. These causes can have a significant influence on our health and on the metabolic processes in our body. Causes of Neurotransmitter Imbalances Poor diet e.g., low protein, high sugar, high saturated fat, low unsaturated fat Excess alcohol use/ drug use Nutrient deficiencies Certain medications Chronic physical and emotional stress Surgery/ operations Medical conditions e.g., diabetes, thyroid conditions, cardiovascular diseases. Restrictive diets Genetic make up & individual biochemistry Metabolic impairments Metal toxicity Digestive problems Allergies Chemical & food sensitivities High stress and/or psychological trauma Lack of sleep Viruses & infections Lack of, or excessive, exercise Hormone imbalances Essential fatty acid deficiencies Blood sugar imbalances Overly sedentary lifestyles Ways to Increase Neurotransmitters Mainstream medicine treats neurotransmitter deficiencies and the consequent mental health problems through the use of pharmaceutical medication. More specifically, antidepressants such as Prozac, Cipramil and Zoloft are used for the treatment of depression, while benzodiazepines such as Valium and Serapax are used for the treatment of anxiety, stress and insomnia. Studies show that antidepressant medication is effective for anywhere between 30 to 60 percent of depressed people. Unfortunately this still leaves anywhere between 40 to 70 percent of people still unwell. Coupled with this is the frequent side effects that are often experienced by people. While newer antidepressants have been shown to be better tolerated, the side effects do still affect a great portion of sufferers. Some of the more common side effects include: anxiety & nervousness; constipation or diarrhoea; dizziness; drowsiness; dry mouth; headache; insomnia; nausea; sexual dysfunction; tremors; urinary retention; and weight gain. Psychological therapy is an effective alternative to medication to treat mood problems. Although its impact on neurotransmitter levels is still uncertain it is now well recognised that psychological therapy does have a positive impact on mood, probably through its influence on thoughts and beliefs systems. Despite the commonly held belief that medication is the primary way to boost neurotransmitter production, this could not be further from the truth. As you can see from the 'causes of neurotransmitter imbalances' table above there are number of causes of neurotransmitter problems and fortunately many of them are changeable. Although we may not be able to change our genes, we certainly can modify our lifestyle and behaviours. For example, regular exercise can dramatically boost neurotransmitters production. Eating a healthy diet, participating in relaxing and pleasurable activities and limiting alcohol intake are also all positive influences. The use of specific supplements and herbs are also important and have been shown in a number of studies to be effective in increasing neurotransmitter levels and lifting one's mood. Although not exhaustive, the list below details some of the important nutrients required for neurotransmitter synthesis: St 's Wort SAMe Amino acids tyrosine, tryptophan and 5-HTP Calcium Magnesium B-vitamins Folic Acid Vitamin C Zinc Iron Copper Neurotransmitter disorders / imbalances are important causes of mental health problems. As discussed, for most people, they fortunately can be treated through diet, lifestyle and nutritional supplementation. http://www.improve-mental-health.com/what-are-neurotransmitters.html > >> > From: Agata Rakowska aga_singapore74@> > Subject: Re: L tyrosine> > To: SSRIsex > > Received: Friday, 9 April, 2010, 1:52 AM> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Â> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Hi ,> > 5HTP seems to be better for depression - that's what I read in the> book by Murray - 5HTP: the natural way to overcome depression,> obesity and insomnia. It's quite an interesting book.> > What's the most important 5HTP gives no side effects - so no PSSD.> > Agata> >> > From: Jensen <juliejensen47@ yahoo.com>> > To: SSRIsex@yahoogroups .com> > Sent: Thu,> > April 8, 2010 1:39:04 PM> > Subject: L tyrosine> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Â> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Not wanting to take another SSRI has anyone taken L tyrosine to help> with depression and or anxiety? Does anyone know if it can cause> sexual dysfunction? Any feed back would be great.> > Â> > thanks> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 Hey Guys, I would have to disagree on 5-HTP. I took it for a few months when I was slowly going off Lexapro. When I got to 5mg of Lexapro I started to feel desire, arousal, nighttime erections, etc. coming back, but my other negative symptoms were coming back as well. The shrink I was seeing decided to augment with 5-HTP to see if I could get the benefits from that and continue to go off Lexapro. But as I upped the dose of 5-HTP according to this doc's instructions I began to lose all the sexual benefits I was feeling coming off the Lexapro. And then, disgusted, when I finally got off everything, well, I wouldn't be on this site if everything had come back. I'm not sure what happened. That said, I truly believe that everyone's experiences are unique on this site. I took SSRIs for over 15 years and only in the last 5 or so did I notice a slowly debilitating sexual dysfunction. For the first 10 years I was more or less fine. Definitely difficult to orgasm but I had no erectile or desire problems at all. So I felt it was an ok trade-off. However, some people on this site have taken SSRIs for like 3 months and been devastated by them. Another example of these unique experiences is that I find that Wellbutrin definitely has sexual side effects for me. But many, many people see no side effects at all. So 5-HTP may actually do wonders for some people. -M > > Hi , > 5HTP seems to be better for depression - that's what I read in the book by Murray - 5HTP: the natural way to overcome depression, obesity and insomnia. It's quite an interesting book. > What's the most important 5HTP gives no side effects - so no PSSD. > Agata > > > > > ________________________________ > > To: SSRIsex > Sent: Thu, April 8, 2010 1:39:04 PM > Subject: L tyrosine > > > Not wanting to take another SSRI has anyone taken L tyrosine to help with depression and or anxiety? Does anyone know if it can cause sexual dysfunction? Any feed back would be great. > > thanks > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 thanks, that is very interesting. i never took antidepressants because I was depressed, it was for anxiety. But i guess my anxiety was making me depressed? And I don't think i have low dopamine levels because I have always been very motivated and have had a lot of energy. I guess serotonin is my problem. To: SSRIsex Sent: Sat, April 10, 2010 7:05:13 AMSubject: Re: L tyrosine Here's some interesting information on neurotransmitters: How are Neurotransmitters Produced? Amino acids are the raw materials for neurotransmitters and a range of vitamins and minerals are co-factors necessary for their production. There are about 28 amino acids used in the body. The liver manufactures about 80 percent of them, while the remaining 20 percent must be obtained from our diet, hence their name 'essential amino acids'. The essential amino acids are derived from proteins, and studies have shown that diets deficient in protein will lead to lower neurotransmitter levels and consequent mental health problems. The amino acid essential for serotonin production is tryptophan, while phenylalanine and tyrosine are the building blocks for dopamine and noradrenaline. The figure below demonstrates some of the important biochemical steps required for the production of the neurotransmitters dopamine and serotonin. As is demonstrated in the figure below, tyrosine and tryptophan go through a number of metabolic processes in the body before they are finally converted into the neurotransmitters dopamine and serotonin. For this to occur effectively, the body must have adequate stores of specific vitamins and minerals. For example, folic acid, iron, vitamin B6, vitamin C, magnesium and copper are all important co-factors crucial for the production of dopamine. Serotonin production relies on adequate levels of calcium, folic acid, iron, magnesium, vitamin B6, vitamin C and zinc in the body. This fact is often overlooked when it comes to treating mood problems. Unless the body has a good supply of nutrients, a number of physiological processes will be stalled and mood problems will result. What are the Causes of Neurotransmitter Deficiencies? Neurotransmitter levels are influenced by a number of factors. Obviously nutrition and the body's ability to absorb nutrients plays a big part, but there are number of other major influences on neurotransmitter production. Some of these are detailed in the table below. These causes can have a significant influence on our health and on the metabolic processes in our body. Causes of Neurotransmitter Imbalances Poor diet e.g., low protein, high sugar, high saturated fat, low unsaturated fat Excess alcohol use/ drug use Nutrient deficiencies Certain medications Chronic physical and emotional stress Surgery/ operations Medical conditions e.g., diabetes, thyroid conditions, cardiovascular diseases. Restrictive diets Genetic make up & individual biochemistry Metabolic impairments Metal toxicity Digestive problems Allergies Chemical & food sensitivities High stress and/or psychological trauma Lack of sleep Viruses & infections Lack of, or excessive, exercise Hormone imbalances Essential fatty acid deficiencies Blood sugar imbalances Overly sedentary lifestyles Ways to Increase Neurotransmitters Mainstream medicine treats neurotransmitter deficiencies and the consequent mental health problems through the use of pharmaceutical medication. More specifically, antidepressants such as Prozac, Cipramil and Zoloft are used for the treatment of depression, while benzodiazepines such as Valium and Serapax are used for the treatment of anxiety, stress and insomnia. Studies show that antidepressant medication is effective for anywhere between 30 to 60 percent of depressed people. Unfortunately this still leaves anywhere between 40 to 70 percent of people still unwell. Coupled with this is the frequent side effects that are often experienced by people. While newer antidepressants have been shown to be better tolerated, the side effects do still affect a great portion of sufferers. Some of the more common side effects include: anxiety & nervousness; constipation or diarrhoea; dizziness; drowsiness; dry mouth; headache; insomnia; nausea; sexual dysfunction; tremors; urinary retention; and weight gain. Psychological therapy is an effective alternative to medication to treat mood problems. Although its impact on neurotransmitter levels is still uncertain it is now well recognised that psychological therapy does have a positive impact on mood, probably through its influence on thoughts and beliefs systems. Despite the commonly held belief that medication is the primary way to boost neurotransmitter production, this could not be further from the truth. As you can see from the 'causes of neurotransmitter imbalances' table above there are number of causes of neurotransmitter problems and fortunately many of them are changeable. Although we may not be able to change our genes, we certainly can modify our lifestyle and behaviours. For example, regular exercise can dramatically boost neurotransmitters production. Eating a healthy diet, participating in relaxing and pleasurable activities and limiting alcohol intake are also all positive influences. The use of specific supplements and herbs are also important and have been shown in a number of studies to be effective in increasing neurotransmitter levels and lifting one's mood. Although not exhaustive, the list below details some of the important nutrients required for neurotransmitter synthesis: St 's Wort SAMe Amino acids tyrosine, tryptophan and 5-HTP Calcium Magnesium B-vitamins Folic Acid Vitamin C Zinc Iron Copper Neurotransmitter disorders / imbalances are important causes of mental health problems. As discussed, for most people, they fortunately can be treated through diet, lifestyle and nutritional supplementation. http://www.improve- mental-health. com/what- are-neurotransmi tters.html > >> > From: Agata Rakowska aga_singapore74@> > Subject: Re: L tyrosine> > To: SSRIsex@yahoogroups .com> > Received: Friday, 9 April, 2010, 1:52 AM> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Â> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Hi ,> > 5HTP seems to be better for depression - that's what I read in the> book by Murray - 5HTP: the natural way to overcome depression,> obesity and insomnia. It's quite an interesting book.> > What's the most important 5HTP gives no side effects - so no PSSD.> > Agata> >> > From: Jensen <juliejensen47@ yahoo.com>> > To: SSRIsex@yahoogroups .com> > Sent: Thu,> > April 8, 2010 1:39:04 PM> > Subject: L tyrosine> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Â> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Not wanting to take another SSRI has anyone taken L tyrosine to help> with depression and or anxiety? Does anyone know if it can cause> sexual dysfunction? Any feed back would be great.> > Â> > thanks> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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