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I 'd just like to add a notice of caution with Dostinex (Cabergoline). It belongs to a class of drugs called ergotamine derivatives, and they have collectively been implicated in causing fibrotic side effects in different parts of the body.This means that they can cause valvular heart disease. The exact percentage of fibrosis is not widely known, but it seems to be related to the type of drug, dosage and duration of treatment. Genereally this effect tends to diminish after treatment discontinuation. These drugs were widely used in the treatment of Parkinson's disease, and when these side effects were discovered, some of them were withdrawn or banned. Some clinicians still use cabrgoline or pergolide, (especially for another disease of the pituitary gland that causes hyperprolactinemia), BUT under observation (i.e. every 6 months) by cardiac ultrasound. If

someone has a preexisting valvulopathy, he should not initiate this drug. If your current regime with Dostinex extends over a period of 6 months, I think it should be prudent to talk with your doctor about this (if you already haven't). Generally, lower doses seem to be pretty safe, but currently there is no absolute certainty. Here is a link to a recent review in the Lancet for this :http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19683643?ordinalpos=1 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSumDrug-induced fibrotic valvular heart disease.Bhattacharyya S, Schapira AH, Mikhailidis DP, Davar J.Lancet. 2009 Aug 15;374(9689):577-85.

ReviewAll the best with your progressSubject: Re: any recovery case?To: SSRIsex Date: Friday, September 11, 2009, 11:17 PM

Taking Buspirone sounds like a very bad idea. It's based on piperazine, a chemical used in pesticide.

http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Piperazine

You should consider replacing it with inositol, a natural supplement.

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> > > > When you read the first posts on this group from 2005 there was a man who seems to have recovered by using dostinex. Maybe someone here knows if his recovery was completly and permanent?

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Carrotstick, how is week 3 of your treatment going? We all hope you are busy

with orgasms :).

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treatment. Do you have low testosterone levels or is that just part of Dr.

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I would be really careful with the good Doctor from San Diego. I was his patient

for quite some time in Boston for PSSD. He put me through toms of useless tests

that were miserable and had me on useless drugs but the kicker was his theory of

the month at the time of why I had PSSD. He had this theory that riding bicycles

caused the problem. When I told him that I only rode bikes about five times

years ago when my son was a cub scout, he stood fast that my problem was the

bike theory and he wouldn't let go. He is a nice guy but a little out there, if

you know what I mean. I also think he left Boston on kind of murky circumstances

but that's all I'll say about that. Just be careful of whatever he's pushing

because he has had some weird theories on things in the past. I hope he can help

you and it will be interesting to read you results down the road.

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> recovered? Wikipedia says it may last for a period of time but I haven't

> run into any one who claims to have recovered his/her libido totally.

> Are there really some people who managed to leave the harsh side-effects

> back? I'm not so sure if there is one single person who had persistent

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Bump for this thread,

Carrotstick, I wish the best for you. How is the treatment going?

I have cabaser and clomid, but have not found it helpful.

Maybe I should follow your method, dose, schedule etc...

Is there more to the treatment plan besides taking these drugs on Monday and

Thursday??

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Nope that's it for treatment for me. how long did to try the treatment? Give me a call when you get the chance. I just tried to call you but did not get a voice mail.

Subject: Re: any recovery case?To: SSRIsex Date: Friday, September 18, 2009, 1:37 PM

Bump for this thread,Carrotstick, I wish the best for you. How is the treatment going?I have cabaser and clomid, but have not found it helpful.Maybe I should follow your method, dose, schedule etc...Is there more to the treatment plan besides taking these drugs on Monday and Thursday??> >> > Carrotstick, you

mention that a testosterone precursor is part of the treatment. Do you have low testosterone levels or is that just part of Dr. Goldsteins method?> >>

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so the whole treatment is basically taking dostinex and clomid mondays and

thursdays, every week without any breaks. at what the dosage ?

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Hello

I also need to know the dosages

Thank you

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Bumping this thread.

Carrotstick, how is it going?

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did you heal?

-- In SSRIsex , " edoe1234 " wrote:

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> This is just for all of you who are coping with the nightmare that is PSSD. I

had it for 5 monthes and it was probably the worst time of my life, know that

there is hope. My PSSD completely blew over three monthes ago and I have been

extremely horny ever since (and I had no libido). Do not lose hope, nd most

importantly do everything and anything you can to increase your dopamine and

lower your serotonin. I have faith you will all heal eventually.

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I am thinking of contacting the doctor as well. Carrotstick can you give us a

progress report so we can know if this is worth pursuing or not?

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I haven't seen carrotstick post for some time now.

Have we lost him?

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CARROTSTICK, give us any feedbacks, im am really curious on how you are doing as

well. are you improving, stay the same or get worse ?

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carrotstick posted just yesterday asking if Dostinex can be taken alongwith

SSRI....his id is like kobbsod....something like that

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I have some clomid and cabaser (dostinex)in my stash.

Today is Monday. I'll do this experiment myself.

I'm also taking 3mg vit-b12 injected. Ten tabs lion's mane.

One Tbsp inositol. 0.5mg cjc-1295. 0.25mg ghrp-6.

On Wednesday I'm going to start taking nattokinase. In two weeks I'll start

IGF1LR3.

Start

10/05/09: 50mg clomid, 0.5mg cabaser

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