correction RE: Liver cleanse debris test results

[Guest guest]

> I am actually much more interested in getting to the truth of

> the matter and

> am not locked in irrevocably to the idea that they are

> something other than

> gallstones and liver debris.

Meant to say that I'm not irrevocably locked in to the idea that they are

gallstones.

Gluten Fog.

Ron

[Guest guest]

>Meant to say that I'm not irrevocably locked in to the idea that they are

>gallstones.

>

>Gluten Fog.

>

>Ron

I'm not clear how " gallstones " and " liver debris " would differ? I mean,

the only outlet (I know of) for the liver to the gut IS the gall bladder.

The liver produces gall, it goes into the gall bladder. Usually not

in clumps, but if the clumps were produced in the liver instead

of the gall bladder, how would you tell the difference?

(BTW it is true that the gall bladder gets blocked with gluten

intolerance and likely other stuff ... if you don't eat the gluten

and eat a lot of fat maybe that " forces " the issue??? )

Heidi Jean

[Guest guest]

Hi Heidi,

> I'm not clear how " gallstones " and " liver debris " would

> differ? I mean,

> the only outlet (I know of) for the liver to the gut IS the

> gall bladder.

> The liver produces gall, it goes into the gall bladder. Usually not

> in clumps, but if the clumps were produced in the liver instead

> of the gall bladder, how would you tell the difference?

Actually, the anatomy of the gallbladder and the liver is pretty

interesting. The main bile duct comes out of the liver and passes directly

into the small intestine. The gallbladder is on a branch line that taps off

of the main bile duct. When you look at a picture of the whole system it

doesn't look like it would be possible for the bile to go from the liver

into the gallbladder. You would think that it would bypass the gallbladder

and go directly into the intestine. There must be some kind of valve or

muscular control of the bile duct that allows it to shunt the bile flow up

into the gallbladder until the bile is needed for digestion.

So, to answer your question -- yes, you can have debris coming from either

organ. One of the premises that makes this process so controversial is the

idea that the liver is filled with stones. Western med says no, alternative

practitioners say yes. If you look at all of the nasty debris in my picture

it would appear that most of the gunk came from the liver since we know that

it couldn't have all come out of the gallbladder.

Or it's all just congealed olive oil.

>

> (BTW it is true that the gall bladder gets blocked with gluten

> intolerance and likely other stuff ... if you don't eat the gluten

> and eat a lot of fat maybe that " forces " the issue??? )

>

Interesting.

I want to thank you for your persistence in promoting the gluten problem.

You have put my attention on it and have forced me to look in a new

direction to which I was resistant for some unknown reason.

Ron