OT, way OT. Energy experiences in Colorado

[Guest guest]

Hi Deb,

> Oooh, tell me offlist if you wanna. I'm always interested in the stuff

> that makes no sense.

Okay. Two stories. One more conventional and one that goes to the heart of

what I've been doing for the past several months.

I don't know how much I'll be able to contribute to any discussion that

these may generate. I'm still not in an emailing place -- my mind is

working somewhat differently now that it had in the distant past and I find

too much time in front of the computer to be a distraction and a little

uncomfortable. I expect that will change, but for now it is what it is.

Since I've spent much of the last year doing workshops of various types deep

into the alternative heath/energetic/success self-help world I've learned to

spot the varieties of people that attend these events pretty quickly.

There's always someone or two who operates in the " negatives " mode. They

are not getting the thing that they are looking for at the event and they

become vocal about it really quickly. These people can be a real distractor

and if you have more than 10% of the group being that way you might as well

just leave and try to get your money back, IMHO.

So after the first drill or process on the first day of this event in

Colorado this woman stands up when we were talking about what had just

happened and went into a litany of how it wasn't working for her and she

never gets these kinds of things and she only sees visions and can't

actually feel anything, blah, blah, blah. She was a 75 year old retired art

professor who existed entirely in her head. You could tell by just looking

at her. There was no body movement below the neck. Pretty amazing,

actually to be _that_ repressed.

Since some of the work that I'm doing involves changing my responses in the

face of other people's behavior I've learned that if I project unconditional

love from myself to the person who is doing the thing that I don't like it

shifts my experience of them to one in which I can begin to find the

positive things that they may have going on rather than focusing on the

thing or things that I don't like. This really works and I've done it many

times. (I want to make the comment that unconditional love is not the thing

that I thought it was for most of my life and it's most definitely not the

Kumbaya/Amazing Graze kind of thing that most people tend to generate when

they look at this kind of stuff. Getting my experience of that straight

helped this process along nicely)

So gets going and I find the love in my space and actually visualize

it moving from myself to her while I'm feeling it strongly. I have to do

this several times throughout the day as she is still at it after the

practices aren't working out for her. Finally, by the end of the day she

comes over to me and begins to talk. When she starts in I'm immediately

able to go to a place of respect for her and what she has accomplished in

her particular world rather being stuck in trying to run away. During the

conversation we bond slightly and become friendly.

Move on to day two of our three day workshop. starts in with her crap

in the morning and I decide to wallop her with some remote love. So I build

up a nice block of it in my chest and just deliver it with a whack. She

finished her comment and sat down. I didn't realize this until after the

workshop was over as you tend to not notice the absence of a thing but that

was the last negative comment that she made. After that she would couch her

comments in totally different language that was not offensive and was more

aware and she began to always be looking for the positive in her experience

of the drills rather than seeing only the negative.

Later that day we did a practice in which we all (17 of us) exchanged energy

flows by holding our hands next to each other without touching. When

and I got together I just dumped the love out. She started to cry. We

never said a word. And then we moved on.

The last day near the end of the conference we did another energy exchange

with each other similar to the previous one I described but this time you

had to tell each other three things that you liked about them. When she got

to me (as were each taking turns working with everyone) she told me two

things that I no longer recall and then she said while breaking down and

crying, " I've never felt so much unconditional love from a man in my entire

life. " I almost fell over.

On to story number two.

This was the second workshop that I did with this group in three weeks. The

first in Upstate NY was so powerful that I re-arranged my life to go to this

one. Both workshops were run by a woman who has been fully energetically

awakened for the past 20 years. She has figured out a way to teach others

how to open the body's full energetic potential through a series of

unconventional meditations and drills and, as in the traditional Eastern

sense, by having others be in the presence of the energetically awakened.

This energy is conventionally called the Kundalini energy and it has been

held largely secret for the past 4000 years because if you awaken and are

not prepared it can cook you, make you sick or drive you insane. and

an acquaintance of hers both spontaneously awakened years ago and somehow

survived while figuring out what things they needed to do to manage the

energy. Now they are teaching other people how to awaken and do so safely

and with some degree of control.

So one of the things that you can supposedly do with the energy once you

have available it is pass it on to others by projecting it. Through the

hands is the most conventional route. At the end of the first workshop

after I began to experience these strong energetic feelings flowing up and

down my spine and elsewhere I had a private session with her in which she

simply held her hands on my body at my coccyx and my thoracic spine (through

my clothes) and sat. I vowed that I wasn't going to go into the session and

try to create any kind of energy flow but I was simply going to receive what

she was able to deliver. If it was nothing, then it was nothing. For you

see, I don't really believe that any of this is real, yet.

So, I was on the table and for the first 20 minutes I felt ZERO. NADA. Not

a thing. Not a word was spoken. Then all of the sudden I began to feel a

mild buzzing sensation in the back of my butt near where her hand was. The

buzzing (not a good description, btw. It felt more like champagne bubbles

were running in my body) began to spread and get warm. Over the next 10

minutes the sensation moved throughout my entire body. I was laying on a

table with a woman who I barely knew hanging on to my butt and my entire

body is engulfed in what can best be described as an energy field. What was

really happening was that I felt a buzzing/champagne sensation in my body.

What it felt like was being in a strong energy field a la a Van de Graph

generator. The buzzing sensation lasted for hours afterwards and that night

I woke up spontaneously floating in a cocoon of the same energy. It felt

like I was surrounded in a buzzing cotton ball about 3 feet thick all

around.

Of course, after I left NY the energy faded but if I would sit down and

relax I was able to re-experience the flow on a much smaller scale. As I

continued to do the practices that I had learned at the workshop the energy

would strengthen and weaken but it was still there and moving. Again -- I

want to reiterate that what I'm actually experiencing is a sensation. Back

is buzzing. Hands are buzzing. The end. My description of what it feels

like is " energy " .

So, I go to Crestone and after three days of work I'm in a very, very

different place and the energy I'm experiencing is much, much more powerful.

So powerful that it is making my body shake to some degree. If I relax into

it it takes over and I begin spontaneously shake and move around. Right

near the end of the workshop we do one of the most powerful energy sharing

practices of all -- we sit back to back with a partner. About halfway

through this process comes and sits back to back with me. At first I

get no sensation from her at all. Within a minute I'm shaking like a rag

doll. I looked like one of those native villagers that you see on the

Discovery channel who is stuck in a demonic possession. The cool thing was

that _it felt great_. I was laughing hysterically and everyone else was

watching and cracking up, too. It took hours for it to wind down.

So how do you explain that? Suggestion? I made it all up in my mind?

Possibly, of course. I do not believe so, though, and I've seen glimmers of

enough other phenomena to suggest otherwise. Time will tell. The trip is

interesting in the meanwhile.

Ron

[Guest guest]

Hi Ron,

Just replied to you offlist, but it bounced back. Going to bed now, so

will try again in the morning.

Deb (yawn)

On 10/21/05, RBJR <rbjr@...> wrote:

> Hi Deb,

>

> > Oooh, tell me offlist if you wanna. I'm always interested in the stuff

> > that makes no sense.

>

> Okay. Two stories. One more conventional and one that goes to the heart of

> what I've been doing for the past several months.