ideal goats milk; what goats eat

[Guest guest]

Hello,

i'm the driver for a raw milk group and i'm thinking about

incorporating another farm into our delivery for goat's milk.

i'm a member of WAPF so i know what you want in a raw cow's milk

(grass fed only) but when shopping for goats milk, what should i look

for?

this particular farm i'm looking into also has cows but the cows are

fed grain in winter. he has a rational and i can post that if anyone

is interested why he seems to feel strongly about this.

but i'm thinking...if i wouldn't drink their cows milk or eat their

meat, because it's not 100% grass fed, do i want to drink their

goat's milk?

what are goats supposed to eat? if they feed their goats grain, and

they do, do i want to avoid that particular goat milk?

if i can provide any more info if it will be helpful, i'm glad to do

it.

thanks very much to any and all who respond to this.

laura

[Guest guest]

Hi

I also live in NJ -- in Trenton, where are you?

I often wonder about the goat issue too. I get mine from someone who

puts his 1/2 on grass (or more) and 1/2 on grain which he grows

himself and said occasionally he needs to spray, but tries not to.

He sprouts his grain which I assume is generally better than

unsprouted. The reason I still buy his milk is because it's the best

I've found and I find it easier to digest than even the most

completely grass-fed Jersey/Guernsey milk. I have to go with my gut.

Have you checked Jo 's site eatwild.com for any info on goat

diets? Didn't think of that before.

Regards,

Adrienne

> Hello,

>

> i'm the driver for a raw milk group and i'm thinking about

> incorporating another farm into our delivery for goat's milk.

>

> i'm a member of WAPF so i know what you want in a raw cow's milk

> (grass fed only) but when shopping for goats milk, what should i

look

> for?

>

> this particular farm i'm looking into also has cows but the cows

are

> fed grain in winter. he has a rational and i can post that if

anyone

> is interested why he seems to feel strongly about this.

>

> but i'm thinking...if i wouldn't drink their cows milk or eat their

> meat, because it's not 100% grass fed, do i want to drink their

> goat's milk?

>

> what are goats supposed to eat? if they feed their goats grain,

and

> they do, do i want to avoid that particular goat milk?

>

> if i can provide any more info if it will be helpful, i'm glad to

do

> it.

>

> thanks very much to any and all who respond to this.

>

> laura

[Guest guest]

Hi Adrienne,

Thanks a lot for writing.

that's interesting, that you think that less than ideal goats milk is

still better than 'perfect' cow's milk.

i wonder what others think?

no i haven't checked eat wild...i'll do that.

oh, i live in basking ridge, in somerset county. do you know pam,

the chapter leader of the princeton group?

take care, adrienne.

laura

> Hi

>

> I also live in NJ -- in Trenton, where are you?

>

> I often wonder about the goat issue too. I get mine from someone

who

> puts his 1/2 on grass (or more) and 1/2 on grain which he grows

> himself and said occasionally he needs to spray, but tries not to.

> He sprouts his grain which I assume is generally better than

> unsprouted. The reason I still buy his milk is because it's the

best

> I've found and I find it easier to digest than even the most

> completely grass-fed Jersey/Guernsey milk. I have to go with my gut.

>

> Have you checked Jo 's site eatwild.com for any info on

goat

> diets? Didn't think of that before.

[Guest guest]

>Thanks a lot for writing.

>

>that's interesting, that you think that less than ideal goats milk is

>still better than 'perfect' cow's milk.

>

>i wonder what others think?

My underestanding of goats is that they just don't tolerate

a lot of grain. You can feed a dairy goat up to 1 lb of grain a day,

or something like that, but more than that and it dies. The " grain "

is really a mix of grasses, molasses, salt, vitamins, and other stuff ...

I feed some to mine as a supplement, but mostly as a bribe to get them

back in the stable. However, they aren't milk goats so I don't worry

about the milk issue.

Heidi

[Guest guest]

OK, I know where you are. Almost took a job there once. I also know

pam....

Actually, when I thought about it, I don't think he said he gave 1/2

grain to them. It's more of a supplement during milking. It may have to

do with the variety of goat he raises why I don't have problems. All

other goat milk I've tried makes me gassy as does completely grass-fed

cows milk -- unless they leave a lot of cream in it.

Would love to hear what kind of insight you get.

Adrienne

[Guest guest]

> Re: Re: ideal goats milk; what goats eat

>

>

>

>>Thanks a lot for writing.

>>

>>that's interesting, that you think that less than ideal goats milk is

>>still better than 'perfect' cow's milk.

>>

>>i wonder what others think?

>

>My underestanding of goats is that they just don't tolerate

>a lot of grain. You can feed a dairy goat up to 1 lb of grain a day,

>or something like that, but more than that and it dies.

One of the raw goat milk suppliers in my area feeds his milking goats

approx. 1.5 lbs. of grains per day. The rest of their diet is hay, FWIW.

I don't know if anyone mentioned yet that goat milk contains less of the

problematic caseins typically found in cow's milk which is probably why many

folks do better with goat's milk.

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg

Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

http://www.westonaprice.org

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[Guest guest]

You're right, Suze, but I don't do well with anyone else's goat's

milk (so far). I think it may have to do with the mixed batch of

goats this guy raises. If that's not it, then maybe it's the pasture

or sprouting of his grain.

Adrienne Hew, CN

> I don't know if anyone mentioned yet that goat milk contains less

of the

> problematic caseins typically found in cow's milk which is probably

why many

> folks do better with goat's milk.

>

>

>

> Suze Fisher

> Lapdog Design, Inc.

> Web Design & Development

> http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg

> Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

> http://www.westonaprice.org

>

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> " The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol

cause

> heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " -

-

> Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at

Vanderbilt

> University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher.

>

> The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics

> <http://www.thincs.org>

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