Guest guest Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 large dose of garlic pills has helped a friend of mine ...while taking pills, pain was gone, he stopped for a day and pain immediately returned, started garlic again and pain left. seems that the garlic helped control like an antibiotic. good luck HELP! tooth pain Hi everyone, just had some amalgams out and the teeth capped and am still having some pain, trying to avoid using any antibiotics. Anybody have any advice on how to treat? Many thanks! signed in pain, Dahlia <HTML><!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC " -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN " " http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd " ><BODY><FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " > <B>IMPORTANT ADDRESSES</B> <UL> <LI><B><A HREF= " / " >NATIVE NUTRITION</A></B> online</LI> <LI><B><A HREF= " http://onibasu.com/ " >SEARCH</A></B> the entire message archive with Onibasu</LI> </UL></FONT> <PRE><FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " ><B><A HREF= " mailto: -owner " >LIST OWNER:</A></B> Idol <B>MODERATORS:</B> Heidi Schuppenhauer Wanita Sears </FONT></PRE> </BODY> </HTML> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 Hi Dahlia, Recently I had a similar painful problem. The dentist thought I needed a root canal because of the excruciating pain after amalgam removal. But since 3 contiguous teeth had been worked on, no one could figure out which was the bad tooth and so there was a serious danger of accidentally removing the root of a good tooth. So I had to endure the pain until the pain went away and they could test for the " bad " tooth. It took almost two weeks for the horrible pain to finally stop and so I could go into the endodontist for what we all expected was going to be a root canal. I turned out to be one of the rare lucky ones though. When the endodontist finally checked my teeth they were all alive and well. No root canal for me. Yay! Here's how the good endodontist explained to me what had happened: He said that the reason we have the tooth pain in the first place is that no filling can be absolutely flush with the tooth -- there's naturally a tiny space there; In that tiny space, millions of bacteria live happily for years and years. When the tooth is drilled and the amalgam filling is removed, the bacteria are stirred up like hornets and start invading other possible sites for " homes " . Since the drilling usually comes pretty close to the root of the tooth, the bacteria invade (infect) the root. He said that the pain you feel is your immune system trying to save the tooth; The pain is the battle between the bacteria and your immune system. The pain goes away when the battle is over and either the bacteria has successfully inhabited the root and killed the tooth (usually!) or your immune system has won and the tooth lives happily on. So even though I had to endure almost 2 weeks of non-stop Excruciating Pain (Ack!!!), it turned out to have a happy ending for me. It also cost me $90 instead of $900 for the root canal... So......... let's see... throughout the ordeal I used slices of fresh garlic -- I just stuck 'em up there in my gums constantly. I also used cloves. Something called Traumeel helped with inflammation --3 pills every 4 or 5 hours that dissolve under your tongue. I used all these things even when on pain medication because of their anti-germ properties. I think it really helps your immune system with the battle. Also Lots of Kim Chee and that sort of thing swishing around in your mouth would probably help a lot. And Rest! And about the pain, hey, try to get some Vicodin or other Very Strong painkiller -- the clenching pain is not good for you at all! Vicodin is the only thing that worked for me. The dentist got me the prescription. You may have to demand it as they like to make you feel like a drug addict.... :-) Good luck! ~Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 > Hi everyone, > > just had some amalgams out and the teeth capped and am still having some > pain, trying to avoid using any antibiotics. Anybody have any advice on > how to treat? > > Many thanks! > signed in pain, > Dahlia Dahlia, I recently had a similar problem. I had a cavity filled and for about two weeks four of my other teeth were incredibly sensitive. I thought for sure there would be more problems but it did clear up on it's own. Here's my theory (for what it's worth!) I am very sensitive to drugs and had a very bad reaction to the anesthetic (anxiety and insomnia.) I think, in my body, the anesthesia blocks the pain temporarily but then has a rebound effect causing extreme sensitivity until my body resets. I hope you feel better soon. Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 >Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:33:53 -0400 > From: <panamabob@...> >Subject: Re: HELP! tooth pain >large dose of garlic pills has helped a friend of mine ...while taking pills, pain >was gone, he stopped for a day and pain immediately returned, started garlic >again and pain left. seems that the garlic helped control like an antibiotic. >good luck > HELP! tooth pain thanks panamabob....so far there is no infection....I think it's just nerve inflam. Anybody have a remedy for this poor pounding nerve? Dahlia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 a clove on the tooth seems to help with pain. Same kind of clove you season a ham with. HELP! tooth pain thanks panamabob....so far there is no infection....I think it's just nerve inflam. Anybody have a remedy for this poor pounding nerve? Dahlia <HTML><!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC " -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN " " http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd " ><BODY><FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " > <B>IMPORTANT ADDRESSES</B> <UL> <LI><B><A HREF= " / " >NATIVE NUTRITION</A></B> online</LI> <LI><B><A HREF= " http://onibasu.com/ " >SEARCH</A></B> the entire message archive with Onibasu</LI> </UL></FONT> <PRE><FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " ><B><A HREF= " mailto: -owner " >LIST OWNER:</A></B> Idol <B>MODERATORS:</B> Heidi Schuppenhauer Wanita Sears </FONT></PRE> </BODY> </HTML> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 Hi Dahlia: So sorry to hear about your nerve inflammation. I too had that when I had all of my amalgams removed several years ago. It would come on out of nowhere and last for about 20-30 minutes and the pain was so intense and unbearable. Well, over the month or so that it lasted I tried EVERY alternative remedy on the planet to no avail. In the end, I gave in and took *Advil *as recommended by my dentist (who practises holistically and rarely uses OTS's or prescription medication. Relief came within 5 minutes. That was the only time I took Advil. Please contact me offline is you like to discuss further. vsp On 4/19/05, srapp785@... <srapp785@...> wrote: > > > > >Message: 7 > > Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:33:53 -0400 > > From: <panamabob@...> > >Subject: Re: HELP! tooth pain > > >large dose of garlic pills has helped a friend of mine ...while taking > pills, pain >was gone, he stopped for a day and pain immediately > returned, started garlic >again and pain left. seems that the garlic > helped control like an antibiotic. > > >good luck > > > HELP! tooth pain > > thanks panamabob....so far there is no infection....I think it's just > nerve inflam. > Anybody have a remedy for this poor pounding nerve? > Dahlia > > > <HTML><!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC " -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN " " > http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd " ><BODY><FONT > FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " > > <B>IMPORTANT ADDRESSES</B> > <UL> > <LI><B><A HREF= " / " >NATIVE > NUTRITION</A></B> online</LI> > <LI><B><A HREF= " http://onibasu.com/ " >SEARCH</A></B> the entire message > archive with Onibasu</LI> > </UL></FONT> > <PRE><FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " ><B><A HREF= " mailto: > -owner " >LIST OWNER:</A></B> Idol > <B>MODERATORS:</B> Heidi Schuppenhauer > Wanita Sears > </FONT></PRE> > </BODY> > </HTML> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 >>From: " Robin Reese " <robin.reese@...> >>Hi Dahlia, Recently I had a similar painful problem. >>The dentist thought I needed a root canal because of the excruciating pain after amalgam removal. But since 3 contiguous teeth had been worked on, no one could figure out which was the bad tooth and so there was a serious danger of accidentally removing the root of a good tooth. So I had to endure the pain until the pain went away and they could test for the " bad " tooth. It took almost two weeks for the horrible pain to finally stop and so I could go into the endodontist for what we all expected was going to be a root canal. >I turned out to be one of the rare lucky ones though. When the endodontist finally checked my teeth they were all alive and well. No root canal for me. Yay! >>Here's how the good endodontist explained to me what had happened: He said that the reason we have the tooth pain in the first place is that no filling can be absolutely flush with the tooth -- there's naturally a tiny space there; In that tiny space, millions of bacteria live happily for years and years. When the tooth is drilled and the amalgam filling is removed, the bacteria are stirred up like hornets and start invading other possible sites for " homes " . Since the drilling usually comes pretty close to the root of the tooth, the bacteria invade (infect) the root. He said that the pain you feel is your immune system trying to save the tooth; The pain is the battle between the bacteria and your immune system. The pain goes away when the battle is over and either the bacteria has successfully inhabited the root and killed the tooth (usually!) or your immune system has won and the tooth lives happily on. >>So even though I had to endure almost 2 weeks of non-stop Excruciating Pain (Ack!!!), it turned out to have a happy ending for me. It also cost me $90 instead of $900 for the root canal... >>So......... let's see... throughout the ordeal I used slices of fresh garlic -- I just stuck 'em up there in my gums constantly. I also used cloves. Something called Traumeel helped with inflammation --3 pills every 4 or 5 hours that dissolve under your tongue. I used all these things even when on pain medication because of their anti-germ properties. I think it really helps your immune system with the battle. Also Lots of Kim Chee and that sort of thing swishing around in your mouth would probably help a lot. And Rest! >And about the pain, hey, try to get some Vicodin or other Very Strong painkiller -- the clenching pain is not good for you at all! Vicodin is the only thing that worked for me. The dentist got me the prescription. You may have to demand it as they like to make you feel like a drug addict.... :-) >Good luck! ~Robin Robin, What a sweetheart you are to write me! Thank you! Your experience sounds just like mine--or I should say, mine sounds like yours. That is really interesting about the cause of the pain.<The pain is the battle between the bacteria and your immune system.> I'm gonna print that out and save it! I also had three teeth done at once, and what you say makes a lot of sense. I don't know how you could stand it for two weeks but that's great that you won! In my case, the pain isn't excruciating--yet. Does it get worse? At first I was trying to just tough it out, but now I'm taking aspirin and using ice packs. Chiro recommended Arnica which is great--one of the ingredients in Traumeel. (btw, I knew that was a cream but didn't know it came in pellets. I'll have to check it out). He tested me for cloves and said " no " , but I'll have to check out the garlic. Thank you for your very encouraging words, they help a lot as I feel I'm going silently, slowly crazy! And wishing I never did this, even though I really think it's for the best. Well I'm just blabbing. I can't thank you enough, Dahlia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 From: " Lenz Kim, Charlie and Riley " <lenz3@...> > Hi everyone, > > just had some amalgams out and the teeth capped and am still having some > pain, trying to avoid using any antibiotics. Anybody have any advice on > how to treat? > > Many thanks! > signed in pain, > Dahlia >Dahlia, >I recently had a similar problem. I had a cavity filled and for about two >weeks four of my other teeth were incredibly sensitive. I thought for sure >there would be more problems but it did clear up on it's own. Here's my >theory (for what it's worth!) I am very sensitive to drugs and had a very >bad reaction to the anesthetic (anxiety and insomnia.) I think, in my body, >the anesthesia blocks the pain temporarily but then has a rebound effect >causing extreme sensitivity until my body resets. >I hope you feel better soon. >Kim Hi Kim, Exactly me too! I've had terrible insomnia since the amals. were removed. I too am very sensitive to drugs and I have been struggling with both anxiety and insomnia! (As I wrote in a post to Robin, my chiro suggested arnica and this has helped me a lot with the anxiety. i'll find out tonight about the insomnia!) that's a great connection I hadn't made. Thank you. Dahlia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 In my case, the pain isn't excruciating--yet. Does it get worse? Dahlia Hi Dahlia, It's good you mentioned that you also had three teeth worked on: it might be that your bite is ever so slightly " off " . My teeth and jaw were a little bit sore the day or too after and that's normal. But after a couple days the pain turned around and started to increase. When it was painful in a different way -- you know, not just soreness and tenderness but a kind of nerve pain -- I went back to the dentist. Having so many teeth worked on at the same time maybe caused my bite to be " off " ever so much. My dentist " shaved " some of the new filling down a bit, fine-tuned my bite and it definitely helped. I think maybe if I'd gone in sooner I may have avoided the serious pain? I just don't know. Have you talked to your dentist about re-examining your bite? ~Robin Ps. By the way, as I mentioned, the Traumeel homeopathic tablets seemed to work really well for inflammation. I took extra and I was impressed! Also, I should note that despite my pain I am very happy to have a metal-free mouth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 >From: " Robin Reese " robin.reese@... >Have you talked to your dentist about re-examining your bite? Hi Robin, you are right! I did go back in about 5 days after the initial treatment and he did shave off a tiny bit of one of the caps, and it did make a difference! btw, the pain is mostly gone, so probably it was the off-bite. thanks for all your encouraging words and sharing your experience. It helps! >Also, I >should note that despite my pain I am very happy to have a metal-free mouth! >~Robin Why? what differences do you note? Dahlia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 > > I should note that despite my pain I am very happy to have a metal- > > free mouth. [~Robin] > > Why? what differences do you note? [Dahlia] Not much as it's only been a few weeks. They do look great (like new!) and psychologically I feel better. It's another thing done that I always wanted to do. I was exposed to a lot of metals and ended up with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome in the late 80's (among other things that developed 15 years later...) I've always suspected a link to metals and now with the amalgams out I can gradually introduce a metal detox program.. It can't hurt. ~Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 Hi Robin, You're in the Bay Area, right? What dentist did you go to? Thanks, Jo Message: 10 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 03:53:28 -0000 From: " Robin Reese " <robin.reese@...> Subject: Re: HELP! tooth pain > > I should note that despite my pain I am very happy to have a metal- > > free mouth. [~Robin] > > Why? what differences do you note? [Dahlia] Not much as it's only been a few weeks. They do look great (like new!) and psychologically I feel better. It's another thing done that I always wanted to do. I was exposed to a lot of metals and ended up with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome in the late 80's (among other things that developed 15 years later...) I've always suspected a link to metals and now with the amalgams out I can gradually introduce a metal detox program.. It can't hurt. ~Robin -------------------------------------------------------- San Francisco * San Diego * Los Angeles * Sacramento * Orange County * Las Vegas * Portland * Houston * Phoenix This email communication may contain CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION WHICH ALSO MAY BE LEGALLY PRIVILEGED and is intended only for the use of the intended recipients identified above. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized review, use, dissemination, distribution, downloading, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this communication in error, please immediately notify us by reply email, delete the communication and destroy all copies. GORDON & REES LLP http://www.gordonrees.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 >> You're in the Bay Area, right? What dentist did you go to? Thanks, Jo >> I went to Oloph Granath all the way up in Santa but I think he's worth it. It's his specialty. His office is up to the minute with amalgam removal procedures and equipment. Brand new! Here's a website with the address and so on. He's Swedish. http://www.stunningsmiles.com/ ~Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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