Re: Deodorant options & going soapless WAS Alum & Aluminum

[Guest guest]

Well, here I've been, for years, using crystal deodorant spray, thinking it

didn't have aluminium in it. Boy, am I bummed!

However, I never found it specially effective on it's own, so I add

essential oils. What I'm going to try now is the essential oils added to

plain filtered water. Use a glass bottle, preferably dark. Use 1 drop oil

for 1-2 tsp water.

My recipe is - To every 240ml/8oz/1 cup water, add 8 drops sage, 8 drops

lavender, 4 drops juniper, 4 drops citronella. With plain water, I might

increase this a bit.

You can also use thyme or tea tree instead of the the juniper or citronella.

Bergamot is also good, especially in summer as it's cooling.

Note that this is not good for pregnant women, as herb oils are not to be

used topically during pregnancy.

This will be an interesting experiment, as I;m also going " no soap " at the

moment. I;m doing this now as it's holidays and I can only offend myself

during the adjustment phase. My FIL has this theory that if you never use

soap and just wash with water, your body's bacteria will balance out, so no

smell. So far, his theory isn't working too well. Something in one of 's

recent posts suggested that other people round here have been going

soapless. Please spill the beans. What have you been doing and how well does

it work?

Cheers, deb

Alum & Aluminum

Just curious what the options are for deodorant other than regular store

bought and health food store salt-types. What do you use?

Vivian

[Guest guest]

>My recipe is - To every 240ml/8oz/1 cup water, add 8 drops sage, 8 drops

>lavender, 4 drops juniper, 4 drops citronella. With plain water, I might

>increase this a bit.

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Sounds lovely, Deb. A friend of mine uses rubbing alcohol on a cotton

swab. She says it works all day. I have relatively dry skin in winter,

so it's not an option. It sounds harsh anyway. I bet your recipe keeps

the bugs away too, lol. I'll try it.

~ Deanna

[Guest guest]

Well, I'm not sure if you could say I'm really soapless... I wash my

hair with shampoo, and " wash " with the lather from that when I feel it

is necessary. I gave up body soaps about 7 years ago when I started

reacting to my soap. As for deodorant, I generally don't use any. But

I do use them occassionally when I will be at " social events " . Since I

just started reacting to the latest deodorant I had been using

(eliminating things one by one!), I have switched to using baking soda

rubbed into the underarm area. I have found that I don't " smell "

without a reason! LOL Some foods (mostly processed) cause an odor to

appear in my sweat. I've also noticed particular odors appearing under

times of stress, anxiety, and fear...all slightly different.

Interesting...

Catz

[Guest guest]

On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 17:36:43 -0600, Deanna <hl@...> wrote:

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> >My recipe is - To every 240ml/8oz/1 cup water, add 8 drops sage, 8 drops

> >lavender, 4 drops juniper, 4 drops citronella. With plain water, I might

> >increase this a bit.

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> Sounds lovely, Deb. A friend of mine uses rubbing alcohol on a cotton

> swab. She says it works all day. I have relatively dry skin in winter,

> so it's not an option. It sounds harsh anyway. I bet your recipe keeps

> the bugs away too, lol. I'll try it.

I've been using white vinegar spritzed on with a little spray bottle.

It kills the bacteria and seems to work great, and the vinegar smell

seems to dissipate quickly.

Fern

[Guest guest]

>>> Catz: Well, I'm not sure if you could say I'm really soapless... I wash

my

hair with shampoo, and " wash " with the lather from that when I feel it

is necessary. I gave up body soaps about 7 years ago when I started

reacting to my soap. As for deodorant, I generally don't use any. But

I do use them occassionally when I will be at " social events " . Since I

just started reacting to the latest deodorant I had been using

(eliminating things one by one!), I have switched to using baking soda

rubbed into the underarm area. I have found that I don't " smell "

without a reason! LOL Some foods (mostly processed) cause an odor to

appear in my sweat. I've also noticed particular odors appearing under

times of stress, anxiety, and fear...all slightly different.

Interesting...

Catz

Deb: I'm not ready to give up shampoo either! Just the soap for now. I'll

give it a couple more days then and see what happens. I'd forgotten about

baking soda. Might have a play with that too. Thanks.

[Guest guest]

So what's the problem with soap? Is it all the chemicals in it? I use one with

all natural ingredients that I am very happy with.

Cheers,

Tas'.

" Give it to us raw and wrrrrrrrrriggling " - Smeagol, LOTR.

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[Guest guest]

>Sounds lovely, Deb. A friend of mine uses rubbing alcohol on a cotton

>swab. She says it works all day. I have relatively dry skin in winter,

>so it's not an option. It sounds harsh anyway. I bet your recipe keeps

>the bugs away too, lol. I'll try it.

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>~ Deanna

I suspect the alcohol " gels " they use for sanitizing hands

would work too. Some of them have herbal oils in them

also. We use them when we go to the hospital ... there

are a lot of weird germs in hospitals, and they aren't

hard on my hands at all.

Also, bentonite clay is said to work for deodorant.

I haven't tried it, but it is pretty inert and it probably

wouldn't encourage fungi.

It's interesting about magnesium displacing aluminum

though ... maybe the problems with aluminum in brain

cells isn't strictly environmental. People tend to be

short in both calcium and magnesium in our culture,

so other ions could move in. Like the problem with

lack of copper in mad-cow ...

Heidi Jean

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>I've been using white vinegar spritzed on with a little spray bottle.

>It kills the bacteria and seems to work great, and the vinegar smell

>seems to dissipate quickly.

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>Fern

Vinegar works great to *counteract* soaps too, or after gardening.

Soaps and soil are both alkaline, and " open up " the skin which

allows oils to escape. Vinegar " closes " them up again (which is

why it is used to " set " dyes). I spritz my hands after doing dishes

or anything harsh on the hands.

Vinegar also kills many or most of the bacteria on countertops

etc. Since the bacteria I LIKE are all acid tolerant, I use vinegar to

sanitize the sink etc. when it seems like it needs it. It prevents

the " slimies " from growing (I put a little in the lid of the Harsch

crock for that reason too, and a shake of salt).

Heidi Jean