Re: Off Topic, re: virus warning

[Guest guest]

Kay,

I don't think you have anything to worry about. I'm familiar with

what you wrote and would suspect that such a message would be

treated as an attachment and removed by the server before going to

the list.

The one post in question was definitely a virus infected email

message that went to some people on the list...personally I suspect

that some of these viruses may comb through your email files

pulling out all the email addresses it can find and then sending

the virus to all of those addresses. I know viruses do so from the

address book, but suspect that some virus programs may glean

addresses from all files including your deleted and sent files,

too.

Ray

[Guest guest]

Ray in Virginia on 12/23/01 5:42 PM wrote:

> ...personally I suspect

> that some of these viruses may comb through your email files

> pulling out all the email addresses it can find and then sending

> the virus to all of those addresses. I know viruses do so from the

> address book, but suspect that some virus programs may glean

> addresses from all files including your deleted and sent files,

> too.

They do Ray. They also pull email addys and contacts through instant

messengers like ICQ, Yahoo Mess., AIM and such.

Robbie

[Guest guest]

Dear Ray and Rob and group:

Hope there are no stowaways with my email here, Norton says ok, but we all

have to let each other know. I am writing to ask if you might have the

" badtrans " virus in text, non-executable form, as I would like to study it

(computer analyst here).

Very best wishes for the holidays, .

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Re: Off Topic, re: virus warning

> Ray in Virginia on 12/23/01 5:42 PM wrote:

>

> > ...personally I suspect

> > that some of these viruses may comb through your email files

> > pulling out all the email addresses it can find and then sending

> > the virus to all of those addresses. I know viruses do so from the

> > address book, but suspect that some virus programs may glean

> > addresses from all files including your deleted and sent files,

> > too.

>

> They do Ray. They also pull email addys and contacts through instant

> messengers like ICQ, Yahoo Mess., AIM and such.

>

> Robbie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

No, the McAfee program caught it and I deleted it.

Ray

[Guest guest]

Robbie previously wrote: " They also pull email addys and contacts

through instant messengers like ICQ, Yahoo Mess., AIM and such. "

That explains a lot, especially why people are so confused once

they find out that their computer contracted a virus and infected

someone else's computer they know they didn't have an email address

for.

Ray

[Guest guest]

Hi . I deleted all the copies I was sent, but the next one I get I¹ll

send you the code, text only file. Believe me, I¹ll get another. Perils of

belonging to so many newsgroups. : )

I have a Mac, so it¹s easy (and safe) for me to mess with the live bugs. : )

Your idea of fun is like mine. LOL.

Robbie in FL

L Misek-Falkoff on 12/24/01 11:50 AM wrote:

> Dear Ray and Rob and group:

>

> Hope there are no stowaways with my email here, Norton says ok, but we all

> have to let each other know. I am writing to ask if you might have the

> " badtrans " virus in text, non-executable form, as I would like to study it

> (computer analyst here).

>

> Very best wishes for the holidays, .

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> Dr. L. D. Misek-Falkoff, Speaker and Chronic Pain Chair

> The National Disability Party http://www.disabilityparty.com

> http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/pain-in-the-law

> Re: Off Topic, re: virus warning

>

>

>> > Ray in Virginia on 12/23/01 5:42 PM wrote:

>> >

>>> > > ...personally I suspect

>>> > > that some of these viruses may comb through your email files

>>> > > pulling out all the email addresses it can find and then sending

>>> > > the virus to all of those addresses. I know viruses do so from the

>>> > > address book, but suspect that some virus programs may glean

>>> > > addresses from all files including your deleted and sent files,

>>> > > too.

>> >

>> > They do Ray. They also pull email addys and contacts through instant

>> > messengers like ICQ, Yahoo Mess., AIM and such.

>> >

>> > Robbie

>> >

>> >

>> >

[Guest guest]

Ray in Virginia on 12/24/01 2:38 PM wrote:

>

> That explains a lot, especially why people are so confused once

> they find out that their computer contracted a virus and infected

> someone else's computer they know they didn't have an email address

> for.

> Ray

>

I always get bugs from people that I bought things from off eBay, and people

I sent mail to once 5 years ago, and the like. Some people never truly

delete their caches/files, and so if it¹s in there, these new bugs will find

them.

FYI- Symantec has a blow-by-blow description of the actions of these bugs,

and exactly how they do what they do. Interesting reading.

<http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.badtrans.bmm (DOT) h

tml>

Robbie in FL

[Guest guest]

Hi Robbie and all here, and Happy Holiday Do backchannel (private email)

any interests in analyzing, understanding the " bug. "

I will really appreciate that. I had the text of a prior one. I am

interested because before I went on (pain) disability I was a Staff Analyst

and Programmer, and also a Script designer. People often do not perceive the

virus as code, but I can understand because they do feel it " infects " etc..

Your kind response is appreciated. Voices on the Net can differ so.

By the way, a search with Google or another 'search engine 'produces plenty

of websites where the code is partially shown (in text) and analyzed, but

for some reason I have not been able to find the whole thing even though I

received of course the viris from elsewhere. Also, to show the scope, in a

few days, a folder I set up to catch the word " virus " has 1140 entries (some

but relatively a few are about eg. zoster virus, which seems to be the cause

of physical pain of many types, etc.). It is a shame someone pulled this

prank, it appears in November but here it is all over the world for the

holidays.

On the great up-side of computer email , thank goodness for those hours when

those of us with pain disabilities can get to the computer and network.

Sending you and the e-list the very warmest personal regards, . On

the Net since early 1960's. Background email anytime, ask me whatever, if I

know.

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Re: Off Topic, re: virus warning

>

>

>> > Ray in Virginia on 12/23/01 5:42 PM wrote:

>> >

>>> > > ...personally I suspect

>>> > > that some of these viruses may comb through your email files

>>> > > pulling out all the email addresses it can find and then sending

>>> > > the virus to all of those addresses. I know viruses do so from the

>>> > > address book, but suspect that some virus programs may glean

>>> > > addresses from all files including your deleted and sent files,

>>> > > too.

>> >

>> > They do Ray. They also pull email addys and contacts through instant

>> > messengers like ICQ, Yahoo Mess., AIM and such.

>> >

>> > Robbie

>> >

>> >

>> >