Guest guest Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 What are your latest labs? Someone here can help! steph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 I had labs done about 1.5 months ago. Problem is, I was only on 1 grain of armour along with 6 isocorts. My FT3 was 3.1 (2.3-4.2) and FT4 was .9 (.7-1.8?). Since then I've been upping my meds. My guess is my FT3 is currently too high. I'm going to drop my armour from 2.5 grains down to 2 and up my synthroid to 75mg from 50. Does this sound good? I know Dr. R. is one of the best docs around, does he ever use combo's of armour and synthroid? > > What are your latest labs? Someone here can help! > steph > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 You need to get your Free T3 and Free T4 levels tested after being on a stable dose for 6-8 weeks. What do your basal body temps look like? Are you taking any vitamins or other supplements? If you are taking too much or the wrong ones, they can screw up your system. The short answer to your question is that it is possible to be overmedicated without having any overt hyper-like symptoms. Muscle weakness can be related to being over or undermedicated. Hypoglycemia is often adrenal related. Increasing thyroid meds too fast can induce adrenal problems. "Steadily increasing" your Armour is not a good idea. It is too easy to overshoot your optimal dose. Once you get to a target dose of perhaps 120 mg, increases should be 15 or 30 mg max with testing in between increases. Stay on a dose for at least six weeks. What is your doc telling you to do? andy_cruikshank wrote: I've been steadily increasing my armour dosage lately and now feellike crap. I'm up to 2.5 grains plus 50 mcg of synthroid. Here are my symptoms:1) No energy, sleeping longer2) More trips to the bathroom3) Aweful time in the gym yesterday. Very weak.4) Went hypoglycemic in the gym.5) Lost 4 lbs. NOT GOOD.6) Muscles feel "flat" and sore.I was also on 25mg cortisol (15mg isocort and 10mg cortef), but decided to lower it to 20mg today.HELP! New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 Thank you for the reply Jan. I've lowered my dose today and actually feel a bit better. My basal temp is in the high 97's upon waking and mid 98's in the middle of the day. Currently at 6pm it's 98.42. I haven't been above 98.6 thus far, however. My temps have steadily climbed upon increasing my dosages although I know I have a little ways to go. My fear is that armour contains too much T3. If memory serves correct, armour is approx. an 80/20 T4/T3 mix. The body, when healthy, produces about 91/9 mix. This and the fact that my original labs were mid free T3 and " in the gutter " free t4 leads me to believe that I need some kind of extra T4 in there. I will try and get tested this week. Thanks again! > I've been steadily increasing my armour dosage lately and now feel > like crap. I'm up to 2.5 grains plus 50 mcg of synthroid. Here are > my symptoms: > > 1) No energy, sleeping longer > 2) More trips to the bathroom > 3) Aweful time in the gym yesterday. Very weak. > 4) Went hypoglycemic in the gym. > 5) Lost 4 lbs. NOT GOOD. > 6) Muscles feel " flat " and sore. > > I was also on 25mg cortisol (15mg isocort and 10mg cortef), but > decided to lower it to 20mg today. > > HELP! > > --------------------------------- > New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 I think I might have the opposite problem of diabetes lol. I was tested a few months back and had a BG of 82 (<100?). I had it tested again about 3 weeks ago after lunch and it was below the minimum in the range. > > > > In a message dated 4/1/2006 7:11:36 PM Central Daylight Time, > spe_5@... writes: > > > 1) No energy, sleeping longer > > 2) More trips to the bathroom > > 3) Aweful time in the gym yesterday. Very weak. > > 4) Went hypoglycemic in the gym. > > 5) Lost 4 lbs. NOT GOOD. > > 6) Muscles feel " flat " and sore. > > > > Have you had your blood sugar tested for diabetes? Exercise literally burns > off the sugar and you can feel very weak if your glucose goes too low. Also, > Armour can play havoc with your blood sugar. This is just a thought. > > June > > It's not what you gather, but what you scatter that tells the kind of life > you have lived. > > Helen Walton > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Is it possible to have insulin resistance with BG levels as low as mine? I didn't think so. I'm only 26 years old, been an athlete my whole life, and have an excellent bodyfat ratio and BMI. I also eat about a 40/30/30 diet with lots of fruits and veges, and lean meats. My guess is that my symptoms are the result of finally hitting the point where my thyroid shut down and I need to up my dose. I won't do so until I get tested again, though. > > > > > > > > In a message dated 4/1/2006 7:11:36 PM Central Daylight Time, > > spe_5@ writes: > > > > > 1) No energy, sleeping longer > > > 2) More trips to the bathroom > > > 3) Aweful time in the gym yesterday. Very weak. > > > 4) Went hypoglycemic in the gym. > > > 5) Lost 4 lbs. NOT GOOD. > > > 6) Muscles feel " flat " and sore. > > > > > > > > Have you had your blood sugar tested for diabetes? Exercise > literally burns > > off the sugar and you can feel very weak if your glucose goes too > low. Also, > > Armour can play havoc with your blood sugar. This is just a > thought. > > > > June > > --------------------------------- > New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Thank you Betsy, I believe you are right. I think I probably need more carbs now that my body is becomming more efficient with food. Thanks for the link! > > Andy, what Jan said about gym is absolutely right. Guys burn off sugar > > like a blow torch. However, both the low energy and the weak gym workout > > could be a matter of diet. I follow a low carb diet and as I ramp up in > > the gym, I am finding that I don't always have the glucose(from food) to > > get a top workout. Now in theory, my body is converting from the high > > protein/ high fat diet I am following. It is not always enough. I feel I > > am optimized thyroid wise, so on the advice of others wiser than me, I > > decided to up my carbs(fruit) an hour prior to workout. It worked for > > awhile, but some days, it is a dud. So I went to a low carb, high energy > > drink on those days. It provided 3 grams of _*straight*_ glucose. That > > worked amazingly well when taken an hour+ before. But that is just me > > and no one really approves! (those who do approve are not willing to > > speak up) I noticed you are following a very conservative diet style. > > However, your body may be changing(it happens to all of us, sadly) and > > you may need food in a different ratio or time frame. Consider that. I > > got the feeling that you were serious about the body building/ healthy > > lifestyle, so I intruded. Hope that was ok. > > > > Also there are some situations that inhibit good glucose levels. Alcohol > > prevents the liver(and friends) from doing a good conversion of food to > > glucose. I have been able to test it and seen a 20 point difference the > > next morning if I had alcohol. And yes, the ability for our bodies to > > handle that changes with time. Other compounds can do the same thing. > > And sensitivity to them happens without warning. > > > > As a woman(iron oriented) speaking to a guy, not every problem has an > > obvious solution. You can get yourself so zing-zonged with medication, > > you will never find your way out. No one wants to hear that they may > > have YET another health problem! I am not sure you do. If you haven't > > yet gone to the body building net sites, consider doing so. There are a > > lot of us who have bad days at the gym and don't want a repeat. Not all > > things are thyroid. Oh! I hope I did not commit a sin saying that? :-) > > > > Good luck! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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