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There is a book on herbs and drug interaction, similar to the PDR. I first

learned about this listening to a program on the People's Pharmacy on PBS

radio. If you have a pharmacy that does compounding (such as natural

estrogen, etc.), you might ask your pharmacist particular interactions you

are concerned about -- or check your library to see if they have such a

book. My pharmacist has one. The PBS one costs about $175.

People's Pharmacy has a web site. Also, they try to answer e-mail. Joe and

Terri Graedon are real authorities. Their program is aired live about 7:00

a.m. Saturday mornings (EST), and rebroadcast Saturday afternoons where I

live. It emanates from University of North Carolina. They have experts in

all medical fields as their guests. You may call in with questions for

their guest(s) and them.

Billie

rheumatic How much is too much?

>From: Joyce <hiattruc@...>

>

>Hi Group,

>

>I've been reading Mark's post and the replies and I want to express

>something that I've been thinking for a while.

>

>How do we know that the mixture of herbs, supplements, etc. doesn't cancel

>one or all out or makethe Minocin null and void? Are there any studies

>that anyone knows of concerning mixing " natural " products with chemicals?

>

>Another observation of mine is that some people with these diseases get

>along better before they make a trip to the doctor and get loaded down with

>pills. One example is a friend of mine who had RA for 20 yrs, took only

>Relafen during that time and did great. It was virtually impossible to

>look at her and know that she had RA. Well, she changed jobs and along

>with that job came insurance (HMO) that required her to change doctors.

>The new doctor immediately started her on Gold (pill form) and a different

>NSAID. Within the three years that she changed doctors, she has been on

>Gold, Methotrexate, Prednisone, and other powerful drugs. Also during that

>time, she has developed ulner deviation and other outward signs of the

>disease. There are days that she can't get out of bed. Her doctor has

>agreed to let her try Minocin but will not allow her to stop Methotrexate,

>Prednisone or NSAIDS.

>

>I wonder if the powerful drugs brought on her health failure or if it was a

>natural occurrence.

>

>Sometimes I think diet and exercise are the most important things to do for

>these diseases.

>

>Any comments?

>

>Joyce

>RA 10 yrs.

>AP from Nov.97- march 99 (developed hypersensitivity to Minocin)

>

>

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> There is a book on herbs and drug interaction, similar to the PDR. I first

Actually, the first edition PDR on herbals came out last year around

November. Got mine at Costco/PriceClub

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In a message dated 10/10/2003 11:28:34 AM Eastern Standard Time,

mlndhall@... writes:

Anyone have some other suggestions as to what we may

have to do to deal with this situation? I will used

the no homework as a last resort because I don't want

him to think he'll never have homework again. I may

have to fight to keep him mainstreamed. I am not

against special ed classes, but I'm not sure that that

would be the best scenario. I'm just not sure what

should be done at the moment. So that is why I am

asking what you all think. (I'm too tired to think!)

Well, when Royce was falling apart in middle school, we got rid of everything

except showing up to school. He had someone there (an aide) to help him if

he was getting overwhelmed and to play interference with teachers who decided

that he could do their assignments but he was choosing not to do it. So I

would start with an aide for jeremy to help him get through the day in one

piece.

This should be considered before moving him out of where he is, unless you

want him out of where he is.

The aide should be responsible for everything, including writing down notes

from each class. We had a daily log sheet. The first column listed the

class/period, the second listed what they did in the class, the third listed any

homework he had to do (again, once we phased homework in) and a column for any

notes they wanted to tell me about, then the final column was where the person

filling it out each period was to sign off. So in this sense, if you don't cut

out homework, the aide would write down his assignments for him.

I still request that the aide fill out his daily journal with assigments

because he forgets by the time he gets home. In middle school, he also had the

aide responsible for making sure he was bringing home all his correct papers and

books to do these assignments. Then I would look over his daily log and see

how he did, what he did and what he had still to get done.

I don't see this as babying him so much as fully supporting him. As

would start gaining his wits about him again, he could start taking over piece

by piece and the aide could be faded back in small time slots until he was

once again, on his own, if possible.

Not knowing but reading about him all this time now, I would request

the aide, give him as much support as you feel necessary (I would get it all to

start with and peel it back as he does well.)

The other thing on my wish list (lol) is inservicing. I would put

this in the IEP and they will bring in an expert on OCD, AS or panda's...or all

of these, at regular intervals. One year we wrote it into Royce's IEP and the

consultant came once per month to do an inservice. You can adapt this to

's needs but these teachers have got to be aware what he is dealing with

and

how they can make this work for him.

I don't think you can give him too much right now because he is having such a

hard time. Nobody really wants an aide following him around. It may be

really nice for a while, but it will get old fast. As he gains confidence, he

will probably beg to do things on his own. It may be he needs the aide all

through jr. high, maybe longer. But deal with that part as it comes. If he

doesn't beg to get rid of the aide, you will have the aide push him away piece

by

piece anyway as she fades back her help (or his help.) And again, if he still

needs the aide all through school, then he does. I know kids who have this and

Royce is a freshman who has this. She doesn't stick to him like glue these

days but she is around.

Okay, I think that's my wish list for now.

Roxanna ö¿ö

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In a message dated 10/10/2003 11:28:50 AM Eastern Standard Time,

mlndhall@... writes:

One thing that woman said when she called Wed. was

that she was having a hard time getting him to write

down the homework assignments in his agenda. Is it too

much to ask that they write it down? It is in his IEP

that it's to be checked for accuracy and signed off on

by both the teacher and me

My son when he was in 6th grade did not write homework assignments down at

all, we tried copying another child's agenda at the end of the day and that

did not work either as he did not know what the homework was even when it was

copied from another's agenda. We came up with a great system that works, in each

of his 6 classes he receives a sheet of paper which lists his homework in

detail and any missing assignments or incomplete assignments and any teacher

comments, or parent comments. If we have a problem at home I write it in the

parent comments and they write back. It is not fool proof as he missed a

project,

but it is much better then b/f. HE is responsible for getting these sheets

from each teacher if at the end of the day he does not have all 6 sheets he has

to go back to that teacher and get the sheet. Now he rarely has to go back and

get his sheets in the beginning he did a lot its working for us.

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I checked out schoolnotes.com and that looks great for a teacher that

would use it.

I also have a problem with my son (a) not writing down all the

assignments or (B) not bringing home the right stuff. He would

often forget to pick things up from his box, or just grab the wrong

book. " Somebody " has been writing things down for him from time to

time. It's good because there are often 4 different assignments on a

particular night. They have an agenda for this. Last year, they

started the third graders doing it because it was such a challenge

for the fourth graders. Now this year, my second grade son has a

sheet he keeps all week, and copies his assignments down from an

overhead every day.

I get the whole responsibility thing, it that were to actually help

my kid. It frustrates him and me instead. If you are 7, 8, or 9

years old and have such diverse homework that you have to write it

all down to be able to remember...I don't think the answer lies in a

better organizer. LOL

I have been doing more and more writing for my son to see if we can

actually get all his assignments done in our IEP time limit of 45 min.

We pretty much did yesterday. He had 5 vocab words that he had to

look up (or know) the part of speech, definition, and sentence.

He sometimes has a hard time with the sentences. And after doing

this 15 times (they do it each day), he said they could actually use

the sentences that the dictionary gives. I'm mean, though, I don't

let him. If I am writing it, he can think it. We got vocab done in

10 minutes, and his math done in about 20. I think we were both

relieved. Plus he had a find the misspelled word exercise and to

color a cover for his Regions of California report. Maybe it was an

hour total.

I don't mind *at all* doing the writing for him until we figure that

aspect out. Things just whip out of his brain if they don't have to

come out of his hand.

Jackie

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I don't think there is a too much guideline. After all the key is to

accomodate his individualized needs in the LEAST restrictive

environment.

What's his current IEP look like?

What are they listing as his worst behaviors? For thgis you truly

need a FBA for a BIP. Of course if the behaviors are organic in

nature the ABCs probably will NOT work according to our specialist.

What things are causing him to fail in the mainstream classes? List

those and we can better come up w/ accomodations/ modifications.

And yes the teachers COULD provide a copy of ALL assignments, but I

have yet to EVER get one to do it.

a

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I was wondering if it's possible to eat too much in the way of

fermented foods? Kraut or kim chee is eaten at almost every meal --

up to a cup or so.. (It's easier than steaming!) I ask because this

latest business of glutamic acid, (seen on the onibasu site,) is a

bit of a concern; msg has been a big problem for me in the past..

Thanks.

~Robin

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Aww........I think you did wonderfully!!!

You're bound to be afraid for him. It's totally normal....even with a NT kiddo.

You told her what it was.....and then explained about how he may want to be alone. If it was me, I actually may call her and say, "This is his 1st sleepover, and I was wondering how he was doing? Is he with the others or sticking to himself?" But.....let her know that it's totally Okay if he's alone. That's what he likes. I'd make sure she understood that, so she doesn't lie and say, "Oh yeah, he's doing great. Playing right along with them". he he.

Other than that.......I'd let her know that his hardest time, like most kids, may be getting to sleep and wanting to come home. Tell her to call you immediately. No problem.

Sigh...........hugs to you.

If he makes it all night, you're gonna feel like you've accomplished the most amazing thing in the world.....and you both will deserve a treat. he he.

If he calls and wants to come home, you should also feel amazing that he wanted to go and made it that long. Treat again. he he.

Take a breather and maybe give her a call.

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but who needs the least.....

From: AP Girl <julia.colleen@...>Subject: ( ) How much is too much? Date: Saturday, February 5, 2011, 5:37 PM

I just dropped my 10 yr old aspie son off at his first sleepover. So as I'm heading out the door I say to the Mom (whom I've spoke to about numerous times about 's "issues")I say,"ok so you know Ant has Asperger's" WHAT IS THAT AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN!? She was totally alarmed. I didn't really know what to say. I told her it's pretty much high functioning atusim and she had this look of major concern. She asked what that should mean to her and I just told her- well he won't ask for anything, he might stay away from the other kids, if he looks left out could you ask him if he's ok.

UGH I am worried now- I told Ant that no matter what time it was I'd pick him up but he didn't think I would pick him up at 2:30 am if he happened to decide he'd rather be at home. I assured him I would.

My main question is what do you tell people? I mean I could go in depth of all this sensory stuff and his special interests but he does pretty good blenind in. I didn't mention he might pace around her kitchen island repeatedly until someone tells him to stop...oh Lord!! LOL

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