Re: Foltx vs Metanx/From Sharon

[Guest guest]

Sara

The " new " formula for Metanex is new. It contains the active

metabolite of Folate.

The hoopla over Metanex vs no Metanex can be explained with the

following. Having hypothyroidism predisposes those pts to increased

risk factor for cardiovascular dx and type II diabetes.

None of us suddenly become hypo overnight. Our symptoms were on a

continum for a long time before we " finally " got there. Just

because we did not have the Numbers to say that we had the dx does

not mean that we were " well " . Such has been the continual

discussion on this board and others.

Metanex is given when a pt has an elevated level of Homocystine.

Elevated homocystine is predictive of cardiovascular disease. What

brings down homocystine levels is Vit B12, Vit B6 and Folate.

For a few years, the Doctor just told pts to take OTC VIT B12, Vit

B6 and Folate. But, those pts levels just did not repsond. It was

not Foltex and Metanex came out that he was able to effect a

decrease in homocystine.

Taking Foltex and other vitamins and minerals such as iron are

ESSTENIAL for wellness of the thyroid pt who does not convert T4 to

T3 well.

Going back to the words of Dr. Hertoghe (which are also the

words of her father Dr. Jacque Hertoghe and Dr. Broda

)......Not until you get the adrenals adequately supported and

iron and ferritin levels up will your pt be able to tolerate a

sufficient level of thyroid hormone and other hormones.

So yall.............We have to eat red meat, we have to take iron,

we have to take all of these vitamins and minerals because they act

as cofactors at the hormone receptor site that works with the

enzymes that make these biochemical reactions happen.

As the Doctor says, " I did not make the rules.: These are the rules

that make the system function effectively.

Sharon

PS....It was not until I started the Metanex that I was able to

bring my SKY HIGH levels of homocystine down to normal. This only

happened in 2004-2005.

> >

> > http://www.metanx.com/ Pamlabs replaced Foltx with Metanx.

> >

> > Evidently they figured out that some folks do not convert

folate

> to its more usable form. Does this sound familiar boyz and gurlz?

> >

> > Would you like to hazard a guess which folks are poor

> converters?

> >

> > Maybe we should all write to Pamlabs and tell them who we are.

> We don't convert enough T4 to T3, progesterone to estrogen, DHEA

to

> testosterone and now we also don't convert our folic acid to L-

> methyl folate, becuz our basal body temps are too low for the

> reactions to take place.

> >

> > They now most likely have a $money making$ patentable drug as

> opposed to a vitamin complex that any pharm co can duplicate.

> >

> > Anyway, Metanx is the new formula for Foltx, with the three

> vitamins supposedly in the most usable form.

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sharon--

The thing I'm grateful for, is that my iron/ferritin

levels have improved with a combination of

doctor-approved iron and lean red meat. Now, I am

trying to do the same thing with a combination of B12

and folate-rich foods.

The next step is to add in a B-vitamin complex next

week. I was really angry at the time that I was so

reactive to the Foltx. Luckily, my homocystine levels

weren't hugely elevated, but my individual levels for

both iron and B12 were quite low.

Thanks for the clarification--

Courtenay.

--- smr79410 wrote:

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Taking Foltex and other vitamins and minerals such as

iron are

ESSTENIAL for wellness of the thyroid pt who does not

convert T4 to

T3 well.

Going back to the words of Dr. Hertoghe (which

are also the

words of her father Dr. Jacque Hertoghe and Dr. Broda

)......Not until you get the adrenals adequately

supported and

iron and ferritin levels up will your pt be able to

tolerate a

sufficient level of thyroid hormone and other

hormones.

So yall.............We have to eat red meat, we have

to take iron,

we have to take all of these vitamins and minerals

because they act

as cofactors at the hormone receptor site that works

with the

enzymes that make these biochemical reactions happen.

As the Doctor says, " I did not make the rules.: These

are the rules

that make the system function effectively.

Sharon

PS....It was not until I started the Metanex that I

was able to

bring my SKY HIGH levels of homocystine down to

normal. This only

happened in 2004-2005.

[Guest guest]

Sharon - thanks for the info. I'll call Walgreen's and get the Metanex.

(FYI, before I came to see Dr. R in Jan. '05, I had blood work done by

the Fibro and Fatigue Center in July of '04, and my homocystine was

7.6 (<10.4 microlmol/l) and the doc said it was " good. " However, my

triglycerides were high at 184 (<150), my cardio CRP was high at 6.6

(3.1-10. = high risk), fibrinogen was a bit high at 334 (175-375),

lipoprotein was high at 71 (< or = 30), and sedimentation rate was 27

(less than or = 20), so the doc said I was showing signs of

cardiovascular problems, increased clotting issues, etc.

This past summer the bloodwork done through your labs still showed the

homocysteine in range at 7.2, but the triglycerides climbed higher to

over 200. None of the other tests were done at your labs.)

Sara

[Guest guest]

Courtenay,

Please let us know if you have success with the homocysteine (sp?)

level. I for one am getting to the point where it's difficult to

afford every single thing. The folate in the multi's and the liquid

B Complex are much cheaper than METANX. Of course if it doesn't

work I'll take the METANX. Now I'm not sure, Sharon, should I or

shouldn't I?

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>

>

> Taking Foltex and other vitamins and minerals such as

> iron are

> ESSTENIAL for wellness of the thyroid pt who does not

> convert T4 to

> T3 well.

>

> Going back to the words of Dr. Hertoghe (which

> are also the

> words of her father Dr. Jacque Hertoghe and Dr. Broda

> )......Not until you get the adrenals adequately

> supported and

> iron and ferritin levels up will your pt be able to

> tolerate a

> sufficient level of thyroid hormone and other

> hormones.

>

> So yall.............We have to eat red meat, we have

> to take iron,

> we have to take all of these vitamins and minerals

> because they act

> as cofactors at the hormone receptor site that works

> with the

> enzymes that make these biochemical reactions happen.

>

> As the Doctor says, " I did not make the rules.: These

> are the rules

> that make the system function effectively.

>

> Sharon

>

> PS....It was not until I started the Metanex that I

> was able to

> bring my SKY HIGH levels of homocystine down to

> normal. This only

> happened in 2004-2005.

>