Eating Disord Improvements (Was Re: Determining optimum basic diet from scratch)

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I didn't really read the book, I just looked through it at a few

things. It advocates limiting carbs to about 72 g/day and eating more

fat. It's positive about saturated fat. It also talks like this is

good for everyone. Is it? I don't know. If different people have

different needs, how can it be? It's a question I'm looking for

answers to--how and why people vary in their dietary needs, and

whether people have greatly differing macronutrient needs, a la

metabolic typing or similar paradigms.

As for losing appetite, this is something that, according to the book,

happens to THIN people. On the other hand, to quote from it, " Obese

patients generally experience no negative consequences after changing

to a low-carb nutritional program. They usually enjoy a good appetite

and are pleased that they are losing weight in spite of eating plenty

of food. " From what I can see, the authors are saying that the

difference is because " Generally, thin individuals are driven to eat

by low blood sugar,not by a general hunger " . Why that should be the

case for the thin and not the fat, I don't know, but I didn't read the

whole book.

So as to your problem, I guess the authors would ask, how are your

carb levels, and your fat levels? When you decrease eating, are you

decreasing everything, or just carbs? And if you decrease carbs, are

you getting enough fat? In my case, getting enough fat is essential

for me to be able to keep my carbs low. But maybe I'm a low-carb

type, and you might not be. These books rarely talk about people who

didn't benefit from their diets.

Rick

>

> Rick,

>

> i guess you would recommend Life without Bread, then?

>

> sounds a little like Rosedale, author of the rosedale diet. (i

read

> the book but his anti-sat. fat stance seems to be integral to the

> success of the program.)

>

> i'm curious about what you said because whenever i try to decrease

my

> eating (like when i tried Warrior), i lose my appetite, feel

nauseous

> a lot, and eat only because i have to, to alleviate the nausea.

>

> i feel incapable of 'gorging' at night on the Warrior Diet after

> having 'fasted' all day. it's like i don't feel right, i don't

feel

> well, and i don't want to eat anything. then insomnia comes. this

> is a pattern that has plagued me for decades...it seemed to go

along

> with my bipolar.

>

> maybe i shouldn't do Warrior.

>

> whenever i would try to undereat, either slightly undereating or

> fasting (usually not fasting) i would lose my appetite, feel sick

all

> the time except after forcing myself to eat, then have a spell of

> insomnia, and this would last a week or two, or until i could bring

> my eating levels up again. and i'm a fat person.

>

> every time this happens i seem to forget the last time, and i sigh

> and say to myself, see, you're destined to be fat; everytime you

try

> to lose wt. this happens, and when you go back to eating plenty of

> food, you feel better...physically. it's not emotional eating. i

> have to force myself to eat to feel better even when i don't want

to.

>

> laura

> >

> > ,

> >

> > Yes, I think I am. I think you're the one who emailed me a

couple

> of

> > months ago when I posted about my eating disorder. 's

clinic

> has

> > helped some. Last week I read something in " Life Without Bread "

> that

> > has (so far) enabled me to stop eating cereal/milk/lots of sugar

at

> > night, which I'd been struggling for a long time to do, and

within a

> > few days I started feeling so much better, in some ways better

then

> > I've ever felt in my adult life. I actually feel a little like I

> have

> > a body! I still have big digestive issues, of course,

particularly

> > regarding fats, which I'm trying to eat as much of as I can.

> >

> > What I read was that when one eats too much carbs for too

long--and

> I

> > was living on cereal/milk/lots of sugar for over 8 years--one's

> > metabolism changes from fat/protein-burning to carb-burning. And

> when

> > such a person who is thin(like I am) tries to eat a low-carb

diet,

> he

> > will often lose his appetite, not having much appetite for meat.

> > That's what I would run up against when I tried not to eat

cereal.

> > The book says that if the person stays with the low-carb diet, the

> > metabolism will eventually change back and the person will regain

> his

> > appetite. Having that hope enabled me to stop eating the cereal

and

> > to do whatever I have to do to stay on the diet. Now that I know

> how

> > it feels, I won't go back anyway, but I sure hope it happens...

> >

> > Rick