Re: Salt Therapy for Adrenals?

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What is considered to be "good quality salt?" Sea salt? Kosher salt? I think I would want to be working with a doc on this, being tested before and after any such experiments. Terijo wrote: On an adrenal list someone advocating taking good quality salt with vitaminC for low adrenals. Up to four grams (he said 1/4 tsp is one gram). I wascautious about it and tried a half teaspoon in some emergenC last night. Ittasted good to me and I had no ill effects from it.Has anyone worked with salt this way? I would be afraid to take more saltthan tasted good and I do

want to be careful here. As another poster said,too much salt can be fatal. The initial poster claims he is able to skiphis dose of cortef this way. Or maybe he got off cortef. I don't know ifthis is something I should try daily or for acute circumstances.Terijo

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I think you were wise to be careful with salt. On the other hand, I had

a craving for salt and told my endo who tested my adrenal function. My

ACTH levels were elevated. He noted it and seemed to ok my excess

consumption of table salt. Soon the levels were normal again. My

craving for salt went away. However the cortisol levels were then

elevated. The yo-yo between these two continued for almost a year

before both became normal. I consumed salt as I craved it.

My understanding is the ACTH and cortisol are in a feedback loop of

sorts. Each affecting the other. I would be uncomfortable using salt

without knowing what was the nature of the low adrenal function. I

would certainly discuss it with my doctor first and I would want the

salt balance monitored.

Terijo wrote:

On an adrenal list someone advocating taking good quality salt with

vitamin

C for low adrenals. Up to four grams (he said 1/4 tsp is one gram). I

was

cautious about it and tried a half teaspoon in some emergenC last

night. It

tasted good to me and I had no ill effects from it.

Has anyone worked with salt this way? I would be afraid to take more

salt

than tasted good and I do want to be careful here. As another poster

said,

too much salt can be fatal. The initial poster claims he is able to

skip

his dose of cortef this way. Or maybe he got off cortef. I don't know

if

this is something I should try daily or for acute circumstances.

Terijo

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Dr Brownstein has a new book on this. Heard him speak in the

fall. We have read the book several times. Very compelling info.

One should not do this without the oversight of a physician.

Brownstein spoke at in October and at ACAM in December on

this subject. Again, very interesting info. I have consumed sea

salt since 1998 because it is good for thyroid pts.

Sharon

>

> On an adrenal list someone advocating taking good quality salt

with vitamin

> C for low adrenals. Up to four grams (he said 1/4 tsp is one

gram). I was

> cautious about it and tried a half teaspoon in some emergenC last

night. It

> tasted good to me and I had no ill effects from it.

>

> Has anyone worked with salt this way? I would be afraid to take

more salt

> than tasted good and I do want to be careful here. As another

poster said,

> too much salt can be fatal. The initial poster claims he is able

to skip

> his dose of cortef this way. Or maybe he got off cortef. I don't

know if

> this is something I should try daily or for acute circumstances.

>

> Terijo

>

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Do you have the title and publisher of the book? Where to buy it?smr79410 wrote: Dr Brownstein has a new book on this. Heard him speak in the fall. We have read the book several times. Very compelling info. One should not do this without the oversight of a physician. Brownstein spoke at in October and at ACAM in December on this subject. Again, very interesting info. I have consumed sea salt since 1998 because it is good for thyroid pts.Sharon> > On an adrenal list someone advocating taking good quality salt with vitamin> C for low adrenals. Up to four grams (he said 1/4 tsp is one gram). I was> cautious about it and tried a half teaspoon in some emergenC last night. It> tasted good to me and I had no ill effects from it.> > Has anyone worked with salt this way? I would be afraid to take more salt> than tasted good and I do want to be careful here. As another poster said,> too much salt can be fatal. The initial poster claims he is able to skip> his dose of cortef this way. Or maybe he got off cortef. I don't know if> this is something I should try daily or for acute circumstances.>

> Terijo

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Sea Salt is used for Adrenal Therapy. It is written about in Adrenal

Fatigue: 21 Century Stress Syndrome It is great for those that are

starting to come into Adrenal fatigue, those of us that have it should use

it with the Cortef or Hydrocortisone.

http://www.adrenalfatigue.org/ I do not use any of his products. The book

is loaded with helpful info on adrenal fatigue.

Kate

At 07:50 AM 2/21/2006, you wrote:

>On an adrenal list someone advocating taking good quality salt with vitamin

>C for low adrenals. Up to four grams (he said 1/4 tsp is one gram). I was

>cautious about it and tried a half teaspoon in some emergenC last night. It

>tasted good to me and I had no ill effects from it.

>

>Has anyone worked with salt this way? I would be afraid to take more salt

>than tasted good and I do want to be careful here. As another poster said,

>too much salt can be fatal. The initial poster claims he is able to skip

>his dose of cortef this way. Or maybe he got off cortef. I don't know if

>this is something I should try daily or for acute circumstances.

>

>Terijo

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Jan

The book can be bought on the Broda web site or Dr.

Brownstein's web site. The title of the book is " Salt " . There is a

companion book called " Iodine " . You have to eat a certain kind of

sea salt. Where you buy it and what it is is listed in the book.

Salt and Iodine are friends........the right kind of salt and iodine

that is.

Sharon

> >

> > On an adrenal list someone advocating taking good quality salt

> with vitamin

> > C for low adrenals. Up to four grams (he said 1/4 tsp is one

> gram). I was

> > cautious about it and tried a half teaspoon in some emergenC

last

> night. It

> > tasted good to me and I had no ill effects from it.

> >

> > Has anyone worked with salt this way? I would be afraid to take

> more salt

> > than tasted good and I do want to be careful here. As another

> poster said,

> > too much salt can be fatal. The initial poster claims he is

able

> to skip

> > his dose of cortef this way. Or maybe he got off cortef. I

don't

> know if

> > this is something I should try daily or for acute circumstances.

> >

> > Terijo

>

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I am not sure how good any of this would be for thycans. I know we are supposed to avoid excess ingestion of iodine to avoid stimulating any thyroid cancer cells. Nor sure about the salt. I am going to stick to my original advice to work with a doc who knows what he is doing if anyone wants to try any of this. But I think that advice has to go double for those who have had thyroid cancer. smr79410 wrote: JanThe book can be bought on the Broda web site or Dr. Brownstein's web site. The title of the book is "Salt". There is a companion book called "Iodine". You

have to eat a certain kind of sea salt. Where you buy it and what it is is listed in the book. Salt and Iodine are friends........the right kind of salt and iodine that is.Sharon> > > > On an adrenal list someone advocating taking good quality salt > with vitamin> > C for low adrenals. Up to four grams (he said 1/4 tsp is one > gram). I was> > cautious about it and tried a half teaspoon in some emergenC last > night. It> > tasted good to me and I had no ill effects from it.> > > > Has anyone worked with salt this way? I would be afraid to take > more salt> > than tasted good and I do want to be careful here. As another

> poster said,> > too much salt can be fatal. The initial poster claims he is able > to skip> > his dose of cortef this way. Or maybe he got off cortef. I don't > know if> > this is something I should try daily or for acute circumstances.> > > > Terijo

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I had never heard that about avoiding excess iodine. How much is excess?

I eat eggs and dairy daily, although not much fish.

Jan wrote:

> I am not sure how good any of this would be for thycans. I know we are

> supposed to avoid excess ingestion of iodine to avoid stimulating any

> thyroid cancer cells. Nor sure about the salt.

>

>

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I would not take any supplemental iodine beyond what is in a basic multivitamin. Fish is OK. Seaweed is not. The OTC supplements and herbals that are supposed to be good for thyroid patients are definitely not good for thycans and may not be good for other thyroid patients.Betsy Grimm wrote: I had never heard that about avoiding excess iodine. How much is excess? I eat eggs and dairy daily, although not much fish.Jan wrote:> I am not sure how good any of this would be for thycans. I know we are > supposed to avoid excess ingestion of iodine to avoid stimulating any > thyroid cancer cells. Nor sure about the salt.

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Ok, that makes sense. I don't take any supplemental iodine. There may be

some in my multi, but I'm too lazy to get up and check.

Jan wrote:

> I would not take any supplemental iodine beyond what is in a basic

> multivitamin. Fish is OK. Seaweed is not. The OTC supplements and

> herbals that are supposed to be good for thyroid patients are definitely

> not good for thycans and may not be good for other thyroid patients.

>

> */Betsy Grimm /* wrote:

>

> I had never heard that about avoiding excess iodine. How much is

> excess?

> I eat eggs and dairy daily, although not much fish.

>

> Jan wrote:

> > I am not sure how good any of this would be for thycans. I know

> we are

> > supposed to avoid excess ingestion of iodine to avoid stimulating

> any

> > thyroid cancer cells. Nor sure about the salt.

>

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Betsy, it's not being lazy, it's conserving your energy! LOL

>

> Ok, that makes sense. I don't take any supplemental iodine. There may

be

> some in my multi, but I'm too lazy to get up and check.

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I'm definitely doing that these days - I've been very tired, but my sleep patterns are all screwed up. Seems like I've been dealing with this crap forever. I'm getting to the point of asking for anti-depressants.

Betsy, it's not being lazy, it's conserving your energy! LOL

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It sounds like your thyroid and adrenal levels are not yet optimized. Estrogen levels can also affect your sleep pattern. Betsy wrote: I'm definitely doing that these days - I've been very tired, but my sleep patterns are all screwed up. Seems like I've been dealing with this crap forever. I'm getting to the point of asking for anti-depressants.

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I'm absolutely certain that my thyroid levels are not optimized. My

symptoms are numerous, and worse than when I started on Armour 6 in

December. I'm waiting for to call me back; we've had some

communication problems. But it seems that Dr. R. wants me to stay on

this does for 3 months (which is another 6 weeks). I don't know if I can

keep my sanity that long. The ringing in my ears alone (a new symptom)

is driving me nuts.

As for adrenals, I haven't a clue. Haven't been tested - unless you're

referring to DHEA, which I'm taking.

Jan wrote:

> It sounds like your thyroid and adrenal levels are not yet optimized.

> Estrogen levels can also affect your sleep pattern.

>

> */Betsy /* wrote:

>

> I'm definitely doing that these days - I've been very tired, but my

> sleep patterns are all screwed up. Seems like I've been dealing with

> this crap forever. I'm getting to the point of asking for

> anti-depressants.

>

>

[Guest guest]

If you were feeling well on the synthetic combination, you might want to ask about getting the same amounts of T3 and T4 that you were on, but using Armour plus synthetic T4. What doses were you on? What dose of Armour are you on now? What other hormones and/or supplements are you taking? Tinnitis would suggest that you may still be undermedicated. Three months is not a terribly long time to stay on a dose before testing. You may just have to keep on sticking it out. (Like that UCLA football player, Lanz Renzel, who many years ago was arrested for indecent exposure. . . .) Betsy Grimm

wrote: I'm absolutely certain that my thyroid levels are not optimized. My symptoms are numerous, and worse than when I started on Armour 6 in December. I'm waiting for to call me back; we've had some communication problems. But it seems that Dr. R. wants me to stay on this does for 3 months (which is another 6 weeks). I don't know if I can keep my sanity that long. The ringing in my ears alone (a new symptom) is driving me nuts.As for adrenals, I haven't a clue. Haven't been tested - unless you're referring to DHEA, which I'm taking.Jan wrote:> It sounds like your thyroid and adrenal levels are not yet optimized. > Estrogen levels can also affect your sleep pattern. > > */Betsy /* wrote:> > I'm

definitely doing that these days - I've been very tired, but my> sleep patterns are all screwed up. Seems like I've been dealing with> this crap forever. I'm getting to the point of asking for> anti-depressants.

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Har har!

I was taking 137 whatevers of $ynthroid and 37.5 mcg of Cytomel. Dr. R.

started me on 3 grains of Armour in early December and increased to 3

1/2 grains about a month later. I'm also taking Metanx, and DHEA 5 mg

2x/day. OTC supps include multi, iron, calcium, magnesium and melatonin

- none of which are taken near the Armour.

The tinnitis is weird, though. I didn't have THAT symptom when I went

hypo for RAI. I wonder why it has shown up now?

I just hope my TSH is still suppressed. I suppose I can put up with the

rest.

Jan wrote:

> If you were feeling well on the synthetic combination, you might want

> to ask about getting the same amounts of T3 and T4 that you were on, but

> using Armour plus synthetic T4. What doses were you on? What dose of

> Armour are you on now? What other hormones and/or supplements are you

> taking?

>

> Tinnitis would suggest that you may still be undermedicated.

>

> Three months is not a terribly long time to stay on a dose before

> testing. You may just have to keep on sticking it out. (Like that UCLA

> football player, Lanz Renzel, who many years ago was arrested for

> indecent exposure. . . .)

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On the 210 mg of Armour, you are getting about the same amount of T4, but about 6 mcg less T3. So, you may want to ask for 30 mg more Armour.Betsy Grimm wrote: Har har!I was taking 137 whatevers of $ynthroid and 37.5 mcg of Cytomel. Dr. R. started me on 3 grains of Armour in early December and increased to 3 1/2 grains about a month later. I'm also taking Metanx, and DHEA 5 mg 2x/day. OTC supps include multi, iron, calcium, magnesium and melatonin - none of which are taken near the Armour.The tinnitis is weird, though. I didn't have THAT symptom when I went hypo for RAI. I wonder why it has shown up now?I just hope my TSH is still suppressed. I suppose I can put up with the rest.Jan wrote:> If you were feeling

well on the synthetic combination, you might want > to ask about getting the same amounts of T3 and T4 that you were on, but > using Armour plus synthetic T4. What doses were you on? What dose of > Armour are you on now? What other hormones and/or supplements are you > taking?> > Tinnitis would suggest that you may still be undermedicated.> > Three months is not a terribly long time to stay on a dose before > testing. You may just have to keep on sticking it out. (Like that UCLA > football player, Lanz Renzel, who many years ago was arrested for > indecent exposure. . . .)

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I've been trying to get that for two weeks now. Between the " three month

rule " and the communications issues, I've not had much luck. But

called yesterday. I missed his call, and he was unavailable when I

called back. Maybe I'll have good news today. I'll have to carry my cell

phone around with me - hope he doesn't call when I'm in the john!

Jan wrote:

> On the 210 mg of Armour, you are getting about the same amount of T4,

> but about 6 mcg less T3. So, you may want to ask for 30 mg more Armour.

>

> */Betsy Grimm /* wrote:

>

> Har har!

>

> I was taking 137 whatevers of $ynthroid and 37.5 mcg of Cytomel. Dr. R.

> started me on 3 grains of Armour in early December and increased to 3

> 1/2 grains about a month later.