Re: Symptoms from being Hyper end of range....

February 10, 2006

It definitley sounds Hyper-ish to me. You may need a dose reduction. I would definitely mention it to the PA on Monday and see if they will reduse it a bit.

Kim

aka Hyperkim

February 10, 2006

You need to have Free T3 and Free T4 tests, not just TSH, for adjusting meds. Hyper-like symptoms when increasing meds are most likely adrenal-related, especially with the blood glucose issues. I would ask the doc to run an 8 am cortisol test.cowgirlgrams wrote: Jan maybe you can help me on this one but would appreciate everyone's suggestions. If I am at the hyper end of range TSH 0.648 and came from a 3.89....and am having hyper symptoms now and affecting blood sugar...can it eventually level off or should I talk to the doctor and ask to decrease my meds a bit. I have an appointment with the PA Monday morning. This morning I woke up with no palps but a little weak and after an hour taking Levoxyl I felt

shakey/nervous, palps and sweating. If I knew it would eventually level off I'd feel better about it. Has anyone else had this problem. Thank you for listening.

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February 10, 2006

Sounds like your on the right track. And, yes, making alot of changes at once can throw you into a mini tailspin. I think I was doing that in Nov and Dec with trying a couple of drugs (prescriptions, don't get excited, LOL!) and with adding in three extra vitamins to my daily multi-vitamin. I think my body just had to settle into the new stuff. Plus since I am messing with my thyroid levels, I am having shifts in my symptoms. I am told this is my body trying to re-regulate itself to find its new set point. Example, I used to be cold constantly (unless I was very busy) now I have hot spells. I seems to go back and forth. Same with the skin - used to be very dry, now some days its very, very soft. But most of the time it swings back it doesn't swing back as far as it was (not as cold, skin not as dry).

I know it can seem overwhelming. Just stick with these message boards. Yahoo has alot of thyroid related boards. I also visit the ones at Mediboards.com and at Healthboards.com. Everyone is trying to support each other. Some days we are the supporters and some days we need supporting.

Keep smiling, it makes people wonder what you've been up to!

Kim

aka Hyperkim

February 10, 2006

My understanding is that thyroid hormones adjust slowly. So it usually takes six to eight weeks before a med change shows any true effects. Checking and adjusting meds too frequently can cause you to be in a yo-yo or rollercoaster effect. I think its because the system starts fighting back on any med change which shows up as a spike in one direction or another. (The thyroid will "try" to regulate itself) You have to give the thyroid time to get used to the med on a consistant level. Once the body gets used to the consistancy then it will stop fighting it. This is, of course, my own opinion from my own research.

So I would go in every six to eight weeks. At the most, every four weeks. That may be another reason why the dr wouldn't order it. Don't really know.

Kim

aka Hyperkim

February 11, 2006

I think I am getting too much too Kim. I had another terrible day

today. I got up this morning with no palps and calm...just felt a

little weak. Then I took my thyroid meds and about an hour later I

felt real shakey like low blood sugar, broke out in a sweat and bad

palpatations with burning sensation. I take 100 mcg of Levoxyl right

now in the mornings...two 50 white pills because I am allergic to the

dye in the other mcg. In the morning I am going to decrease and am

thinking of just taking .75 ...which would be a .50 and a half of

a .50...at least until I see the PA Monday morning. I am so frustrated

and know everyone has been there. I am trying to eat better

with ...more protein and less sugar because of the shakiness. So with

that and changing from taking my Atenolol in the morning with the

Levoxyl to at night I guess my body has been in an uproar. Any support

from anyone would be really appreciated....I cried today and asked my

husband to hold me I was so down. He tries to comfort me but really

doesn't understand the whole thyroid mess.

>

> It definitley sounds Hyper-ish to me. You may need a dose

reduction. I

> would definitely mention it to the PA on Monday and see if they will

reduse it a

> bit.

>

> Kim

> aka Hyperkim

>

February 11, 2006

I have a feeling she isn't going to run the cortisol test because she

just ran it not too long ago. I asked them to run the Free T3 and

Free T4 the time before this last blood test and they said they

wouldn't and I finally got them to run the Free T3. This time they

wouldn't run either one of the Free's. I felt like they thought I was

crazy and also said that the insurance wouldn't pay for it to run

again so soon. They were even hesitant about running the TSH again.

Because it was only about 2 or 3 weeks since it was run but I had

gotten the weeks mixed up and went in a week or so too early to have

my levels checked for the last increase. I am probably confusing

everyone.

Jan maybe you can help me

on this one but would appreciate everyone's

> suggestions. If I am at the hyper end of range TSH 0.648 and came

from

> a 3.89....and am having hyper symptoms now and affecting blood

> sugar...can it eventually level off or should I talk to the doctor

and

> ask to decrease my meds a bit. I have an appointment with the PA

Monday

> morning. This morning I woke up with no palps but a little weak and

> after an hour taking Levoxyl I felt shakey/nervous, palps and

sweating.

> If I knew it would eventually level off I'd feel better about it.

Has

> anyone else had this problem. Thank you for listening.

>

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February 11, 2006

Thank you Kim! Yes, I post on different boards too for support. I

think this is my main board though...I quess because I feel it's

closer to home...SA I don't know what I would do without this

support forum. Wish we could find a good dr. close by though. I am

so jealous of the people that see Dr. R. He sounds great! Wish

someone could talk Dr. R. to move to San ! Wonder if Dr. R

knows of anyone in other areas...like here that is suppose to be good

with thyroid. I will keep you updated on what the PA says Monday.

Probably the most I can hope for is that she agrees to decrease.

Then to how much because I have to split the .50 pills without dye to

get wherever I need to be. Taking 2 .50's now. I heard someone says

they split doses like taking .75 one day and .100 the next which

would bring it to 87.5 which is close to .88 the next dose up

from .75. Wewwwww....I don't know how hard it would be to split

a .50 into a quarter....to bring it 87.5 again close to the .88. I

am sorry ..I am rambling. My computer has been down all day it's so

nice to have it back!

>

> Sounds like your on the right track. And, yes, making alot of

changes at

> once can throw you into a mini tailspin. I think I was doing that

in Nov and

> Dec with trying a couple of drugs (prescriptions, don't get

excited, LOL!)

> and with adding in three extra vitamins to my daily multi-

vitamin. I think my

> body just had to settle into the new stuff. Plus since I am

messing with my

> thyroid levels, I am having shifts in my symptoms. I am told this

is my body

> trying to re-regulate itself to find its new set point. Example,

I used to

> be cold constantly (unless I was very busy) now I have hot

spells. I seems

> to go back and forth. Same with the skin - used to be very dry,

now some

> days its very, very soft. But most of the time it swings back it

doesn't swing

> back as far as it was (not as cold, skin not as dry).

>

> I know it can seem overwhelming. Just stick with these message

boards.

> Yahoo has alot of thyroid related boards. I also visit the ones

at

> Mediboards.com and at Healthboards.com. Everyone is trying to

support each other. Some

> days we are the supporters and some days we need supporting.

>

> Keep smiling, it makes people wonder what you've been up to!

> Kim

> aka Hyperkim

>

February 11, 2006

The T4-only hormone cannot especially affect you that fast, since it's not

direct T3. I'm suspecting that you may have a sensitivity to a filler in

the tablet, used to hold it together and form it. This is my best guess,

but, again, you cannot go by TSH-only for thyroid treatment, it is no good

for gaging what a dose is doing or not doing. Yes, this IS written in

granite. Did you have a blood sugar check any time lately? I'm going to be

posting my results shortly, and it's looking like the model for maybe some

adrenal problems, which I have long suspected, but haven't done anything

about. Looks like I may have to, but not before testing. No guesswork,

just like with the TSH-only thing.

Symptoms from being Hyper end of range....

> Jan maybe you can help me on this one but would appreciate everyone's

> suggestions. If I am at the hyper end of range TSH 0.648 and came from

> a 3.89....and am having hyper symptoms now and affecting blood

> sugar...can it eventually level off or should I talk to the doctor and

> ask to decrease my meds a bit. I have an appointment with the PA Monday

> morning. This morning I woke up with no palps but a little weak and

> after an hour taking Levoxyl I felt shakey/nervous, palps and sweating.

> If I knew it would eventually level off I'd feel better about it. Has

> anyone else had this problem. Thank you for listening.

February 11, 2006