mostly off-topic (was Re: Setting the record straight...)

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> > >Maybe dogma creates the tumour you are talking about. Can`t

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> > >religion free from dogma?

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> > Well, dogma is pretty much definitionally required by religion, I

> > think. If there's no dogma, there's nothing to have faith in.

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> hmmm - I think that people can be religious without adhering to

dogma. But I think that generally the 'cancerous' element of religion

is when people try to foist it on others.

Gene i couldn't agree with you more here. what's that

expression? 'a person convinced against his is unconvinced still'?

or something like that?

I think that it takes a lot of gall to post Christian stuff to a

public list like this, and when people are so public about this

stuff, I doubt that they are truly religious.

maybe some people just like to talk...and their faith is such a part

of them, like cancer might be or being a triathlonist, that it just

comes up in conversation...or they like to talk about it. if people

always kept it to themselves...then there might never be any

discourse about it. when i talk about my faith... i might as well be

talking about my husband, which i do, or our son, which i do, or our

beloved 3 cats, which i also do, because they all mean so much to me

and are such an intrinsic part of my life.

and if we talk about it here...it's because nutrition is somehow

bound up with God in our life because we believe that He is the

author of our bodies and therefore has designed the ultimate

nutrition for which is why we are all here. and so for us it is all

bound up together inextricably.

but what i don't understand is...look, people have all kinds of

conversations here i take no interest in, so i skip them. why do we

make you so MAD? why not just ignore us and move on? this is what i

don't understand. we are happy just to be left alone...but you don't

seem to want to leave us alone.

i ignore posts all the time...why not just ignore the ones that

bother you rather than get the posters all riled up and upset?

we tend to talk about that which we love, and if someone loves God,

at some point it will come up in conversation.

but i totally agree with you...faith can't be foisted. it must be

desired. it's like trying to get someone to try octopus. if someone

wants to try it, they will. it someone is adamantly opposed to

trying it...trying to get them to try octopus is just going to really

tick them off.

but the person trying to foist the octopus does so because he LOVES

eating octopus and wants to share his joy and wants the other person

to experience the joy of eating octopus.

but having it shoved down your throat, literally, would turn someone

off to octopus maybe forever.

laura