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>Do

>you feel WFN is at fault? Do you trust them? I have mixed feelings

>about it all. I know it's a small family owned business so I hate for

>them to eat the cost but at the same time, why should the customer?

I think they were negligent but not malicious, but that's just a guess on

the latter part. I've avoided ordering from them since the fiasco, except

that I might have ordered my 5 gallons of QFI CO afterwards since I didn't

know of any other source at the time. They do have some good products --

if you can afford them -- but nothing I haven't been able to find elsewhere.

>Are there other suppliers for Quality First International coconut oil?

I _believe_ that Coconut Oil Supreme sells QFI oil, but you'd have to check

with them to be sure. However, their pricing does not scale downwards at

all adequately. 5 gallons at their " discount " per-pound rate comes out to

$347.76, which is $127.76 more than the $210 I paid WFN.

OTOH, if you're just buying a very small amount, they actually offer a good

deal, because at the 1-3.74# level, their per-pound price is just $11.95,

whereas a pint of WFN's centrifuged oil costs $18.42/# if COS is accurate

in saying that a pint of CO weighs 0.92#. A gallon of WFN's centrifuged

oil, though, costs $64.95, whereas COS charges $76.91.

A few months back, said that you can buy 5 gallons of QFI directly

from QFI for $215. They don't have any kind of online ordering mechanism

that I can find, but here's their number: 1-877-870-1018. I don't know

whether they sell in smaller lots, but 5 gallons, I suppose, qualifies as bulk.

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What " problem " with freeze dried coconut flakes?

As much as I've enjoyed them personally, I've been disappointed of late with

problems I had with their coconut cream product. Both containers arrived

with the covers rolling around in the shipping boxes. When I phoned WFN,

they admitted they had a " capping " problem with all their coconut creams and

would send me immediate replacements. Three phone calls later, still no

replacements.

I'm just about ready to reorder 5 gal of CO, so this thread is good timing.

-Sharon, NH

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WFN - the freeze dried coconut issue

Just wondering how everyone feels about this company now? I just

found out this week about the problem with the freeze dried coconut

flakes. I'm curious to hear what the consensus is. Were you able to

get a refund if you asked for one? I can't get one because I found

out about this -after- the expiration date on my coconut flakes. Do

you feel WFN is at fault? Do you trust them? I have mixed feelings

about it all. I know it's a small family owned business so I hate for

them to eat the cost but at the same time, why should the customer?

Are there other suppliers for Quality First International coconut oil?

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You can buy from QFI directly. I think you can get pretty much any

size, and the one I have must be a gallon. I payed something like $53

for it. It's a big white plastic bucket. But I'm almost positive

they gave smaller options.

That's pretty lame that they don't have an online ordering system.

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> You can buy from QFI directly. I think you can get pretty much any

> size, and the one I have must be a gallon. I payed something like $53

> for it. It's a big white plastic bucket. But I'm almost positive

> they gave smaller options.

>

> That's pretty lame that they don't have an online ordering system.

AFAIK the only rule on quantity sold is one must buy $50 worth of

product--and that has something to do with Canadian regulations. I

buy small amounts of other types of oils all the time.

WFN isn't selling QFI oil anymore and hasn't for many months.

B.

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Hi Folks,

We at Radiant Life have sold QFI oil for years except in the last 6 months due

to logistical reasons. We intend on carrying it again and will notify you all

when we do.

All the best,

Christapher

Radiant Life

Re: WFN - the freeze dried coconut issue

> You can buy from QFI directly. I think you can get pretty much any

> size, and the one I have must be a gallon. I payed something like $53

> for it. It's a big white plastic bucket. But I'm almost positive

> they gave smaller options.

>

> That's pretty lame that they don't have an online ordering system.

AFAIK the only rule on quantity sold is one must buy $50 worth of

product--and that has something to do with Canadian regulations. I

buy small amounts of other types of oils all the time.

WFN isn't selling QFI oil anymore and hasn't for many months.

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Sharon-

>What " problem " with freeze dried coconut flakes?

AFAIK it's been rectified now, but for quite awhile WFN swore up and down

that their freeze-dried coconut was " naturally " sweet as some sort of

mystery effect of the freeze-drying process. It was _really_ sweet,

however, and when I rinsed it out in the sink, it wasn't sweet anymore --

and then finally it came out that their supplied was actually adding sugar.

I think they could've handled the whole mess a lot better. They should've

been on top of the situation much more quickly, and they should've been

much more open about it once they were finally forced to admit that the

product contained added sugar.

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> and then finally it came out that their supplied was actually adding

sugar.

----> Gave me a sugar headache and I dumped it. And they told me no it

wasn't sugar. Same thing with their orginal coconut water. Way too

sweet and gave me a headache. More to dump.

> I think they could've handled the whole mess a lot better. They

should've

> been on top of the situation much more quickly, and they should've been

> much more open about it once they were finally forced to admit that the

> product contained added sugar.

-----> I agree..anyone could taste it and tell it was sugar!

They are dealing with a savy group of customers so to not stay on top

of their producers and then admit when a mistake has been made is

fatal. I've since stopped buying coconut products from them. I'm using

young Thai coconut for my water and buying my coconut oil from

Hahn, a Penn. chapterleader.

She's carries a brand called Nature's Blessing and has been to the

Phillapeans to see the coconut farm.

Lynn

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On 10/2/05, Lynn <lyn122@...> wrote:

> -----> I agree..anyone could taste it and tell it was sugar!

> They are dealing with a savy group of customers so to not stay on top

> of their producers and then admit when a mistake has been made is

> fatal. I've since stopped buying coconut products from them. I'm using

> young Thai coconut for my water and buying my coconut oil from

> Hahn, a Penn. chapterleader.

> She's carries a brand called Nature's Blessing and has been to the

> Phillapeans to see the coconut farm.

>

> Lynn

Doesn't WFN now use Nature's Blessings?

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