RE: goat butter for the casein sensitive

[Guest guest]

Suze,

What's the brand name of that goat's butter? I don't yet know if I'm

casein sensitive, but after giving up milk to find my vision improved, and

giving up cream to find my sleep improved, I'm thinking the cows butter may

have to be next.

[Guest guest]

> Re: goat butter for the casein sensitive

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>Suze,

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>What's the brand name of that goat's butter? I don't yet know if I'm

>casein sensitive, but after giving up milk to find my vision improved, and

>giving up cream to find my sleep improved, I'm thinking the cows

>butter may

>have to be next.

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Hi ,

It's Meyenberg European style cultured goat milk butter.

http://www.meyenberg.com/ They have a list by state of where to buy their

products. Unfortunately, it's pasteurized, but better than no butter at all,

IMO.

Also, the best commercial yogurt I've ever had is Old Chatham sheep milk

yogurt. It's incredibly rich. I believe sheep also don't have a-1 casein,

but you'd have to check to be sure. Second best commercial yogurt in my

opinion is Redwood goat milk yogurt. I think that's the name. I see them

both in the HF stores out here in Maine. Don't know about availability where

you are. You could also use either one to culture your own raw goat yogurt

(or sheep yogurt, although it seems sheeps' milk is awfully hard to find).

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

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Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

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[Guest guest]

BTW, , have you tried straight goat's milk to replace cow's milk? If

you don't do well with goat's milk, obviouisly you probably wouldn't do well

with goat milk butter, so I'm guessing you haven't tried goat milk yet to

see if it harms your vision?

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg

Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

http://www.westonaprice.org

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“The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause

heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times.” --

Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt

University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher.

The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics

<http://www.thincs.org>

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[Guest guest]

One more thing, on their " facts " page, Meyenberg says goats' milk contains

only traces of a-1 protein. I'd read on an Australian or NZ site that it

doesn't contain any. Makes me wonder if it's a breed thing...maybe SOME

breeds of goat don't have it and some do?

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg

Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

http://www.westonaprice.org

----------------------------

“The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause

heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times.” --

Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt

University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher.

The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics

<http://www.thincs.org>

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[Guest guest]

Oh, ha ha! Yet another thought...have you considered taking casein-digesting

enzymes when eating dairy products? That's what I do. I use the Houston

enzymes from http://www.houstonni.com/ I think Kirkman makes them too. They

digest both gluten and casein. These are the enzymes that some parents of

autistic kids give them rather than give up gluten and casein entirely. Just

another option...

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg

Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

http://www.westonaprice.org

----------------------------

“The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause

heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times.” --

Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt

University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher.

The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics

<http://www.thincs.org>

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[Guest guest]

Suze,

Thanks for giving so much thought to my question. Actually, I've been

focused so long on raw, grass fed everything, that I never even thought to

mention those in my query, and yes, both would be a priority for me. Years

ago, I tried the Meyenberg milk for a while and also the Redwood yogurt.

Both were problematic for me, better than pasteurized cow products, but as

with my current milk and cream, the symptoms building slowly and surely to

where I finally sat up and took notice.

The owner of the Organic Pastures farm (where my current supply of dairy

comes from) has said that he will eventually be producing raw dairy products

from pastured goats, so I guess I'll have to wait for that great event.

Even then, though, they may not work for me (given the mixed data on goat

casein), so I'll keep searching for solutions. And the butter I'm eating

now may actually prove okay for me.

I don't like the idea of taking supplements, anything, in fact, that comes

from a factory, but I'll keep your post about the enzymes on hand as a last

resort.

Thanks again. I appreciate all the input.