Re: Laser Therapy and Root Canals: was Fructose

October 1, 2005

On 9/30/05, Masterjohn <chrismasterjohn@...> wrote:

> Oh cool-- Langsjoen has actually done some published research on CoQ10

> I've seen cited a few times. And I have to go to the root canal

> thing. I wonder if he'll discuss fixing root canals with laser at

> all-- I have one left, and I'd really rather not have it taken out.

>

> Chris

I'm wondering to as I think the laser therapy on my teeth was a

complete and utter failure. failure.

The two they lasered instead of root canaling have developed

infections. The one side I didn't finish has an infection. The only

tooth that seems to be okay was the one that was actually root canaled

because the mercury filling had eaten it away.

The only teeth I have ever had a problem with were the ones that my

childhood dentist filled with mercury even though they were very minor

cavities at the time. The dentist who did the laser work remarked on

how healthy my teeth were and there was a very good chance that had my

dentist done nothing I would have had no problems today.

It is scaring me (healthwise) to have so much going on in my mouth and

spending all that money thinking it was totally taken care of.

Anyone ever taken their coconut oils in capsules? I would like to

dramatically increase my oil intake and I think the only way I can

pull that off is by encapsulating the oil.

--

" It is no crime to be ignorant of economics,

which is, after all, a specialized discipline

and one that most people consider to be a

'dismal science.' But it is totally irresponsible

to have a loud and vociferous opinion on

economic subjects while remaining in this

state of ignorance. "

-- Murray Rothbard

October 1, 2005

On 10/1/05, <slethnobotanist@...> wrote:

> I'm wondering to as I think the laser therapy on my teeth was a

> complete and utter failure. failure.

Well that sucks, although my choice is laser or pull the tooth already

root canaled, not laser vs. root canal.

> The two they lasered instead of root canaling have developed

> infections. The one side I didn't finish has an infection. The only

> tooth that seems to be okay was the one that was actually root canaled

> because the mercury filling had eaten it away.

>

> The only teeth I have ever had a problem with were the ones that my

> childhood dentist filled with mercury even though they were very minor

> cavities at the time. The dentist who did the laser work remarked on

> how healthy my teeth were and there was a very good chance that had my

> dentist done nothing I would have had no problems today.

I think you're overestimating the importance of local symptoms. That

your tooth is " infected " is another way of saying you have a healthy

localized immune response to the infection. ***ALL*** root canaled

teeth are infected. Price found that people who had abcesses were the

LEAST likely to experience systemic infections, and the ones with no

apparent local oral symptoms were the worst off.

Chris

> It is scaring me (healthwise) to have so much going on in my mouth and

> spending all that money thinking it was totally taken care of.

>

> Anyone ever taken their coconut oils in capsules? I would like to

> dramatically increase my oil intake and I think the only way I can

> pull that off is by encapsulating the oil.

>

> --

> " It is no crime to be ignorant of economics,

> which is, after all, a specialized discipline

> and one that most people consider to be a

> 'dismal science.' But it is totally irresponsible

> to have a loud and vociferous opinion on

> economic subjects while remaining in this

> state of ignorance. "

>

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October 2, 2005

>>The only teeth I have ever had a problem with were the ones that my

childhood dentist filled with mercury even though they were very minor

cavities at the time. The dentist who did the laser work remarked on

how healthy my teeth were and there was a very good chance that had my

dentist done nothing I would have had no problems today.

Ditto. One very small cavity and *watch areas* (not cavities) on my other

molars, and the @%!^#% dentist drilled deep and did huge mercury fillings. It

was all over before I realized what was going on. I was a teenager and tried to

confront him about it and he just sort of ran away. I think of myself as

non-litigious, but every time this comes to mind, I want to sue (as an

alternative to murther).

BTW, on the doctor/humanities subject, my favorite dentist had a BFA in dance -

they asked for an arabesque at her interview - and my dear friend was a history

major before moving on the neurosurgery. Sure nuf, as soon as she got to med

school, she was analyzing the program and pushing for new courses. And she had

an awful time with some of the science-based med students - that lack of

creativity thing.

October 2, 2005

On 10/1/05, Masterjohn <chrismasterjohn@...> wrote:

> On 10/1/05, <slethnobotanist@...> wrote:

>

> > I'm wondering to as I think the laser therapy on my teeth was a

> > complete and utter failure. failure.

>

> Well that sucks, although my choice is laser or pull the tooth already

> root canaled, not laser vs. root canal.

Well I totally blew it in my description of my problem. The only tooth

that is not giving me problems is the one that was pulled, not the two

that laser root canaled.

> I think you're overestimating the importance of local symptoms. That

> your tooth is " infected " is another way of saying you have a healthy

> localized immune response to the infection.

Unfortunately I have been having chest pains and some edema, which

leads me to believe the infections are causing me a SERIOUS problem,

and which only go away when I fast. I understand the local symptom

issue which you have explained quiet well in other posts, and with

which I agree with 100%. But that is not my issue

> ***ALL*** root canaled

> teeth are infected. Price found that people who had abcesses were the

> LEAST likely to experience systemic infections, and the ones with no

> apparent local oral symptoms were the worst off.

The laser root canals supposedly take care of the problem Price

pointed out by sealing off completely the tubules. The dentist was

aware of Price and Menig and said bluntly that Menig has not kept up

with the research. Maybe so, but for me the laser root canal was and

is an utter and complete failure. And the dentist I went to is the

leader in the field.

--

" It is no crime to be ignorant of economics,

which is, after all, a specialized discipline

and one that most people consider to be a

'dismal science.' But it is totally irresponsible

to have a loud and vociferous opinion on

economic subjects while remaining in this

state of ignorance. "

-- Murray Rothbard

October 3, 2005

,

What is the name of the dentist you went to ?

Theresa

Re: Re: Laser Therapy and Root Canals: was Fructose

On 10/1/05, Masterjohn <chrismasterjohn@...> wrote:

> On 10/1/05, <slethnobotanist@...> wrote:

>

> > I'm wondering to as I think the laser therapy on my teeth was a

> > complete and utter failure. failure.

>

> Well that sucks, although my choice is laser or pull the tooth already

> root canaled, not laser vs. root canal.

Well I totally blew it in my description of my problem. The only tooth

that is not giving me problems is the one that was pulled, not the two

that laser root canaled.

> I think you're overestimating the importance of local symptoms. That

> your tooth is " infected " is another way of saying you have a healthy

> localized immune response to the infection.

Unfortunately I have been having chest pains and some edema, which

leads me to believe the infections are causing me a SERIOUS problem,

and which only go away when I fast. I understand the local symptom

issue which you have explained quiet well in other posts, and with

which I agree with 100%. But that is not my issue

> ***ALL*** root canaled

> teeth are infected. Price found that people who had abcesses were the

> LEAST likely to experience systemic infections, and the ones with no

> apparent local oral symptoms were the worst off.

The laser root canals supposedly take care of the problem Price

pointed out by sealing off completely the tubules. The dentist was

aware of Price and Menig and said bluntly that Menig has not kept up

with the research. Maybe so, but for me the laser root canal was and

is an utter and complete failure. And the dentist I went to is the

leader in the field.

October 3, 2005

You might be interested in reading this web site,

http://gerardjudd.com/goodteeth.htm, I am doing what it says and will

continue until my next cleaning which is in 6 months. I will try to

remember to report back on the outcome.

Judy

> >

> > > I'm wondering to as I think the laser therapy on my teeth was a

> > > complete and utter failure. failure.

> >

October 3, 2005

On 10/2/05, Theresa <ftamlesaca@...> wrote:

> ,

>

> What is the name of the dentist you went to ?

>

> Theresa

Dr. T. Hansen at The Comprehensive Dental Center in Fullerton,

California.

http://www.cdchealthweb.com/index.htm

They used to be called the Center for Advanced Dentistry. What really

irritated me was that I flew in to be treated by Dr. Hansen, since it

was an article by him in a health magazine that got me interested in

the procedure in the first place.

Well he worked on me the first day, pulling a tooth that had been

destroyed by the mercury filling, but on the subsequent days he had

some associate dentist doing the laser work. I didn't fly down there,

stay in a hotel for three days, and pay for the expensive procedure to

be worked on by somebody else. Had I known that going in it might have

been okay but I thought I was getting Dr. Hansen for the *entire*

procedure. As it turns out I only got him for the one thing I could

have had done by a number of dentists who were local to me, pull my

tooth. The expertise and procedure I paid for was actually done by

someone else. Arrgh.

Before I go to far in criticizing the Center I do want to give them a

chance to correct their mistakes. Dr. Hansen did tell me that I could

come back in and have the work redone if it didn't do what they

advertised. He told me this in a long conversation where I openly

expressed my reservations about root canals, and that is when we got

into a discussion about Price, Menig, etc.

So I will report back on whether they live up to their word.

--

" It is no crime to be ignorant of economics,

which is, after all, a specialized discipline

and one that most people consider to be a

'dismal science.' But it is totally irresponsible

to have a loud and vociferous opinion on

economic subjects while remaining in this

state of ignorance. "

-- Murray Rothbard

October 3, 2005

On 10/3/05, <slethnobotanist@...> wrote:

> The laser root canals supposedly take care of the problem Price

> pointed out by sealing off completely the tubules. The dentist was

> aware of Price and Menig and said bluntly that Menig has not kept up

> with the research. Maybe so, but for me the laser root canal was and

> is an utter and complete failure. And the dentist I went to is the

> leader in the field.

What Meinig says in the book is that laser may be promising but it is

experimental at this point.

Chris

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