Re: Further Illuminations - For Jan (Your only sickness...)

[Guest guest]

My comments are below the original post....

" I didn't feel connected to at the end of our

talk because he... "

My thought is: your not feeling connected had NOTHING to do with

. Couldn't possibly have a thing to do with . From

what you wrote, I am thinking you were " being with " your expectation

and connecting with your thoughts, and mostly missed " being with "

.

Without your thoughts, how do you know you would even want to spend

a day with ?

Here is an experience snippet from my personal odyssey: I once

married a woman named " _____ " , but in actual fact, I pursued and

married my projections! And when I came to discover that my

projections did not even closely match the woman I married, I found

myself in a most " awkward situation " , to say the least. A

classic " Be careful what you ask for, because you just might get it "

scenario… that experience remains a great life lesson, one I needed

and now see the Grace of. [i am certain this has only happened to

me, not to any others here! *grin*]

Question: You need a lifetime partner... is it true? Is it really,

absolutely true?

What if, the best lifetime partner you will ever have, no matter who

shows up to share the journey with you or not... is yourself? Who

else, but you, will be with you this entire lifetime, never missing

a moment?

Are you pursuing a " lifetime partner " to avoid you?

As for being *sick*, I don't see *YOU* as being *sick*.

Your only *sickness* is longing for HOME, for what is TRUE. Your

*sickness* is bringing you back to you!

Best Always,

LOVE,

Charlie

[Guest guest]

Charlie

This sparked an interest in my looking at my story in a different way.

I am afraid that I will be judged by some in the group as being shallow

(another piece for WORK).

The projection I want to have in my life is:

female, attractive, firm breasts, vegetarian, wants to and is able to

have kids, playful, financially independent, athletic, doesn't have

kids, healthy mentally and physically, Mediterranean looking, and more.

I see some as " more important " than others, for example: vegetarian who

wants to and is able to have kids at this point are absolutes.

Now what do I do with this so that I can have peace?

Steve

Re: Further Illuminations - For Jan (Your only

sickness...)

My comments are below the original post....

" I didn't feel connected to at the end of our

talk because he... "

My thought is: your not feeling connected had NOTHING to do with

. Couldn't possibly have a thing to do with . From

what you wrote, I am thinking you were " being with " your expectation

and connecting with your thoughts, and mostly missed " being with "

.

Without your thoughts, how do you know you would even want to spend

a day with ?

Here is an experience snippet from my personal odyssey: I once

married a woman named " _____ " , but in actual fact, I pursued and

married my projections! And when I came to discover that my

projections did not even closely match the woman I married, I found

myself in a most " awkward situation " , to say the least. A

classic " Be careful what you ask for, because you just might get it "

scenario. that experience remains a great life lesson, one I needed

and now see the Grace of. [i am certain this has only happened to

me, not to any others here! *grin*]

Question: You need a lifetime partner... is it true? Is it really,

absolutely true?

What if, the best lifetime partner you will ever have, no matter who

shows up to share the journey with you or not... is yourself? Who

else, but you, will be with you this entire lifetime, never missing

a moment?

Are you pursuing a " lifetime partner " to avoid you?

As for being *sick*, I don't see *YOU* as being *sick*.

Your only *sickness* is longing for HOME, for what is TRUE. Your

*sickness* is bringing you back to you!

Best Always,

LOVE,

Charlie

[Guest guest]

I just realized that I did something similar to what Mona mentioned she

noticed about me. So I want to clarify.

I am curious if anyone has ever posted something like this and did the

work on it. How they did it, suggestions for HOW I could do it.

I am not interested in you guessing my judgments, just a direction or

two as a possibility.

der Slaw

Re: Further Illuminations - For Jan (Your only

sickness...)

My comments are below the original post....

" I didn't feel connected to at the end of our

talk because he... "

My thought is: your not feeling connected had NOTHING to do with

. Couldn't possibly have a thing to do with . From

what you wrote, I am thinking you were " being with " your expectation

and connecting with your thoughts, and mostly missed " being with "

.

Without your thoughts, how do you know you would even want to spend

a day with ?

Here is an experience snippet from my personal odyssey: I once

married a woman named " _____ " , but in actual fact, I pursued and

married my projections! And when I came to discover that my

projections did not even closely match the woman I married, I found

myself in a most " awkward situation " , to say the least. A

classic " Be careful what you ask for, because you just might get it "

scenario. that experience remains a great life lesson, one I needed

and now see the Grace of. [i am certain this has only happened to

me, not to any others here! *grin*]

Question: You need a lifetime partner... is it true? Is it really,

absolutely true?

What if, the best lifetime partner you will ever have, no matter who

shows up to share the journey with you or not... is yourself? Who

else, but you, will be with you this entire lifetime, never missing

a moment?

Are you pursuing a " lifetime partner " to avoid you?

As for being *sick*, I don't see *YOU* as being *sick*.

Your only *sickness* is longing for HOME, for what is TRUE. Your

*sickness* is bringing you back to you!

Best Always,

LOVE,

Charlie

[Guest guest]

> Charlie

>

> This sparked an interest in my looking at my story in a different

way.

> I am afraid that I will be judged by some in the group as being

shallow

> (another piece for WORK).

>

> The projection I want to have in my life is:

> female, attractive, firm breasts, vegetarian, wants to and is able

to

> have kids, playful, financially independent, athletic, doesn't have

> kids, healthy mentally and physically, Mediterranean looking, and

more.

>

>

> I see some as " more important " than others, for example:

vegetarian who

> wants to and is able to have kids at this point are absolutes.

>

> Now what do I do with this so that I can have peace?

>

> Steve

Brother Steve...

Why presume there is something you must do? You want what you want,

is there a problem? Your list reads like lovely dreams to me.

What could disturb your peace?

So if an attractive, playful, Mediterraen looking woman with firmish

breasts who eats only veggies, grains and such, has her own money,

no kids, but wants a family, shows up... will your peace hold? I

Quess you will have to find out!!

What if she prefers mature, seasoned guys who wear glasses and spend

their time posting to Yahoo groups? That could be heart breaking!

*smile*

But only if get attached to your projections being true or a must

event!

Know yourself! Same here.

Love,

Charlie

[Guest guest]

der slaw man-

sorry i don't fit even one of those characteristics!!! hahaha- oh well female

and breathing- anyway-

and i am wondering- is it causing you stress to have that desire? i guess that's

why you want to work on it? could you clarify a little please thanks- lovingly

non vegetarian, unable to bear children, sagging breast laurie

[Guest guest]

Dear Steve,

First I'd isolate the core belief. It might be something like, " I

won't be happy unless I meet a woman who has _______(specific

qualities)____________. "

What is stressful to you about being with a woman who does not fit the

criteria mentioned? What " completes " you when you think of having a

woman with these qualities?

While investigating, you might find underlying beliefs like these:

I have to have kids in order to be happy.

If I meet someone who's not financially secure, it means that _____.

Firm breasts are ________.

I would rather be alone than have a woman who isn't ___________.

Other men's children are _______.

Etc.

Let us know, willya? I have an uninvestigated list of essential

man-qualities, myself...but the painful one for me the

all-encompassing " I need a partner. " I have done this one so many

times, with no peace yet...and I am willing....

Love, Picky Carol

" I didn't feel connected to at the end of our

> talk because he... "

>

> My thought is: your not feeling connected had NOTHING to do with

> . Couldn't possibly have a thing to do with . From

> what you wrote, I am thinking you were " being with " your expectation

> and connecting with your thoughts, and mostly missed " being with "

> .

>

> Without your thoughts, how do you know you would even want to spend

> a day with ?

>

> Here is an experience snippet from my personal odyssey: I once

> married a woman named " _____ " , but in actual fact, I pursued and

> married my projections! And when I came to discover that my

> projections did not even closely match the woman I married, I found

> myself in a most " awkward situation " , to say the least. A

> classic " Be careful what you ask for, because you just might get it "

> scenario. that experience remains a great life lesson, one I needed

> and now see the Grace of. [i am certain this has only happened to

> me, not to any others here! *grin*]

>

> Question: You need a lifetime partner... is it true? Is it really,

> absolutely true?

>

> What if, the best lifetime partner you will ever have, no matter who

> shows up to share the journey with you or not... is yourself? Who

> else, but you, will be with you this entire lifetime, never missing

> a moment?

>

> Are you pursuing a " lifetime partner " to avoid you?

>

> As for being *sick*, I don't see *YOU* as being *sick*.

>

> Your only *sickness* is longing for HOME, for what is TRUE. Your

> *sickness* is bringing you back to you!

>

> Best Always,

> LOVE,

> Charlie

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