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>My kombucha is going well and I'm waiting for kefir grains. Love

>that slight fizz in the tea. I've used masala chai tea bags and

>like the flavor better than just cheap plain tea.

>

>Connie H.

I love both kombucha and kefir, but the probiotic effects are quite

different. Kombucha is said to be great for the liver, and it " wakes

you up " (some folks have trouble with insomnia when they take it,

and it's not recommended close to bedtime). NO ONE has that

trouble with kefir beer! Kefir beer has amazing results as far as

intestinal issues (if you have any problems in that department), but

I haven't noticed any changes from kombucha, (or from kimchi, for that

matter). I drink kombucha in the daytime, kefir beer at night.

The bacteria/yeast are totally different too, as you will see when

you get your grains.

The real mystery is: why do all these probiotic foods start with 'k'?????

kefir, kraut, kombucha, kimchi ....

>

Heidi Jean

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In a message dated 1/9/05 9:06:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, sonphos@...

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> My 11-year-old nephew asked that question also, as he was observing my

> kefir, kombucha, and kimchi fermenting away on the counter. I hadn't

> given it a thought until he mentioned it, and of course I had no

> answer.

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Apparently you haven't bothered to make " yogurt. " ;-)

Chris

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On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 21:47:27 -0800, Heidi Schuppenhauer

<heidis@...> wrote:

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> The real mystery is: why do all these probiotic foods start with 'k'?????

>

> kefir, kraut, kombucha, kimchi ....

My 11-year-old nephew asked that question also, as he was observing my

kefir, kombucha, and kimchi fermenting away on the counter. I hadn't

given it a thought until he mentioned it, and of course I had no

answer.

Fern

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On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:10:18 EST, ChrisMasterjohn@...

<ChrisMasterjohn@...> wrote:

> In a message dated 1/9/05 9:06:28 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> sonphos@...

> writes:

>

> > My 11-year-old nephew asked that question also, as he was observing my

> > kefir, kombucha, and kimchi fermenting away on the counter. I hadn't

> > given it a thought until he mentioned it, and of course I had no

> > answer.

> ____

>

> Apparently you haven't bothered to make " yogurt. " ;-)

Ah, that is one that doesn't start with " k " isn't it? It's been ages

since I made yogurt. Since I discovered kefir I haven't felt a need

for it. But anyway, what my nephew observed at the time was that all

of Aunt Fern's Ferments (another alliteration he had fun with) started

with a " k " . I suppose next time I'll have to point out that yogurt is

also a fermentation, but doesn't start with " k " . Thanks, Chris.

Fern

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[Fern] Ah, that is one that doesn't start with " k " isn't it? It's been ages

since I made yogurt. Since I discovered kefir I haven't felt a need

for it. But anyway, what my nephew observed at the time was that all

of Aunt Fern's Ferments (another alliteration he had fun with) started

with a " k " . I suppose next time I'll have to point out that yogurt is

also a fermentation, but doesn't start with " k " . Thanks, Chris.

[MAP] Yeah, but yogurt is just " poor man's kefir " if you will. There

are dozens of different variations on the idea of short-term milk

ferments, but kefir could be considered the prototype for all of them.

That's really the point behind the " three Ks " idea as I've construed

it. It would be easy to list dozens of common ferments that don't

start with " k " !

Mike

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>>[MAP] It would be easy to list dozens of common ferments that don't

start with " k " !

But more fun to list those that do..... I quark at you.

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