Re: Lab Results, Comments Please

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MY FERRITIN LEVEL WAS 53. MY DOCTOR SAID IT WOULD BE A GOO DIDEA TO ADD SOME IRON TO MY REGIMEN.

STEPH

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Ferritin could be higher. Free T3 and Free T4 should be higher with

Hashi's. If you are having symptoms when it's time to start easing your

dose up.

IMHO

Kate

At 06:04 PM 12/5/2005, you wrote:

>I just got my results online at Healthcheck. Any comments will be

>most appreciated. I assume red would not be a good sign?

>

>Anti-Thyroglobulin AB Result <20 Range <40

>Antithyroid Peroxidase Result 309 Range <35 (This one was in red)

>

>RDW Result 15.2 Range 11.5-14.5

>Ferritin Result 52 Range 10-291

>Bicarbonate Result 32 Range 21-30 (This one in red also)

>Free Thyroxine FT4 Result 1.1 Range 0.8-1.8

>Triiodothyronine Free Result 3.0 Range 2.3-4.2 is this the Free T3?

>TSH (3rd Generation) Result 0.019 Range 0.35-5.50 (this one also in

>red)

>

>I am currently on 3 grains armour thyroid and have been for at about

>20 years. Recently started having hypo symptoms, ie fatigue, weight

>gain, hair loss, etc.

>

>I had several other tests but they were all in the normal ranges or

>I did not consider pertained to my symptoms. I'll be glad to share

>any other results if needed though. I did the VIP II on Healthcheck

>for anyone who is familiar with those tests.

>

>Thanks a lot, I am anxious to hear your comments and suggestions.

>Lorna

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Your ferritin at 52 looks pretty good. 50-100 is considered optimal for most folks. ATPO antibodies at 309 indicates a condition known as "antibodies out the wazoo," and suggests that you may have Hashi. The activity of the antibodies may be responsible for your hypo symptoms. Both your Free T3 at 300 and your Free T4 at 1.1 are lower than most of us would like. If you feel well, they are fine. If not, then you may want to talk to your doc about a small increase in your Armour. Did you have your cortisol levels checked? Cortisol levels high in range, but

definitely in range are essential for controlling antibodies. If your doc does not treat cortisol levels, some folks have had good luck with a plant sterol called Moducare. It is pricey, but you can search online for the best prices. dlbunger wrote: I just got my results online at Healthcheck. Any comments will be most appreciated. I assume red would not be a good sign?Anti-Thyroglobulin AB Result <20 Range <40Antithyroid Peroxidase Result 309 Range <35 (This one was in red)RDW Result 15.2 Range 11.5-14.5Ferritin Result 52 Range 10-291Bicarbonate Result 32 Range 21-30 (This one in red also)Free Thyroxine FT4 Result 1.1 Range

0.8-1.8Triiodothyronine Free Result 3.0 Range 2.3-4.2 is this the Free T3?TSH (3rd Generation) Result 0.019 Range 0.35-5.50 (this one also in red)I am currently on 3 grains armour thyroid and have been for at about 20 years. Recently started having hypo symptoms, ie fatigue, weight gain, hair loss, etc.I had several other tests but they were all in the normal ranges or I did not consider pertained to my symptoms. I'll be glad to share any other results if needed though. I did the VIP II on Healthcheck for anyone who is familiar with those tests. Thanks a lot, I am anxious to hear your comments and suggestions.Lorna

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Jan, I had to laugh at your description of my condition. I did not

get the test for cortisol levels unless it was in the VIP II tests,

I didn't see cortisol listed in the results so I assume I didn't. I

just did a saliva test for cortisol but do not have the results in

yet. They were way out of whack in July according to the saliva

test and have been on a hormone cream from Sabre Sciences which

helps the adrenals. It does take awhile though.

Do you suggest a blood test for cortisol levels rather than

saliva? And do I understand that low cortisol levels would cause

the high antiboidies? And is Hashi's always a result of low

cortisol levels? Or can Hashi's be caused by something else? What

I read was that it was not a serious illness, just treat it with

thyroid meds. Is this true?

Do you have any knowledge of the RDW results? I could find that it

had something to do with red blood cells but didn't quite understand

it. And the TSH levels, I assume they were in red because they were

too high? But would that be only for the TSH worshipers and not

really anything for me to worry about?

And when you say a slight increase in Armour, what would " slight " be

in your opinion? I see the doctor in a couple weeks and will be

talking to her but just wanted your opinion first.

Thank you so much!!

Lorna

- In Texas_Thyroid_Groups , Jan

<texasthyroid@y...> wrote:

>

> Your ferritin at 52 looks pretty good. 50-100 is considered

optimal for most folks.

>

> ATPO antibodies at 309 indicates a condition known

as " antibodies out the wazoo, " and suggests that you may have Hashi.

The activity of the antibodies may be responsible for your hypo

symptoms.

>

> Both your Free T3 at 300 and your Free T4 at 1.1 are lower than

most of us would like. If you feel well, they are fine. If not, then

you may want to talk to your doc about a small increase in your

Armour.

>

> Did you have your cortisol levels checked? Cortisol levels high

in range, but definitely in range are essential for controlling

antibodies. If your doc does not treat cortisol levels, some folks

have had good luck with a plant sterol called Moducare. It is

pricey, but you can search online for the best prices.

>

>

> dlbunger <dbunger@w...> wrote:

> I just got my results online at Healthcheck. Any comments will

be

> most appreciated. I assume red would not be a good sign?

>

> Anti-Thyroglobulin AB Result <20 Range <40

> Antithyroid Peroxidase Result 309 Range <35 (This one was in

red)

>

> RDW Result 15.2 Range 11.5-14.5

> Ferritin Result 52 Range 10-291

> Bicarbonate Result 32 Range 21-30 (This one in red also)

> Free Thyroxine FT4 Result 1.1 Range 0.8-1.8

> Triiodothyronine Free Result 3.0 Range 2.3-4.2 is this the Free

T3?

> TSH (3rd Generation) Result 0.019 Range 0.35-5.50 (this one also

in

> red)

>

> I am currently on 3 grains armour thyroid and have been for at

about

> 20 years. Recently started having hypo symptoms, ie fatigue,

weight

> gain, hair loss, etc.

>

> I had several other tests but they were all in the normal ranges

or

> I did not consider pertained to my symptoms. I'll be glad to

share

> any other results if needed though. I did the VIP II on

Healthcheck

> for anyone who is familiar with those tests.

>

> Thanks a lot, I am anxious to hear your comments and suggestions.

> Lorna

>

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Antibodies are not caused by low cortisol, but low cortisol makes them worse. Hashi can be very serious. The antibodies can attack other organs. Conventional medicine does not have any remedies for Hashi, but some alternative docs do. The cortisol is part of a larger protocol that involves balancing all of the hormones, vitamins, antioxidants, and a suppressive dose of thyroid meds. I would suggest asking you doc for some 30 mg or 15 mg tablets for making increases. I think the first increase could be 30 mg. Stay on dose for 6-10 weeks and then get retested.

But the closer you get to your optimal dose, the more caution you must exercise. If you need any increases after that, I would make any further increases just 15 mg. dlbunger wrote: Jan, I had to laugh at your description of my condition. I did not get the test for cortisol levels unless it was in the VIP II tests, I didn't see cortisol listed in the results so I assume I didn't. I just did a saliva test for cortisol but do not have the results in yet. They were way out of whack in July according to the saliva test and have been on a hormone cream from Sabre Sciences which helps the adrenals. It does take awhile though.Do you suggest a blood test for cortisol levels rather than saliva? And do I understand that low

cortisol levels would cause the high antiboidies? And is Hashi's always a result of low cortisol levels? Or can Hashi's be caused by something else? What I read was that it was not a serious illness, just treat it with thyroid meds. Is this true?Do you have any knowledge of the RDW results? I could find that it had something to do with red blood cells but didn't quite understand it. And the TSH levels, I assume they were in red because they were too high? But would that be only for the TSH worshipers and not really anything for me to worry about?And when you say a slight increase in Armour, what would "slight" be in your opinion? I see the doctor in a couple weeks and will be talking to her but just wanted your opinion first.Thank you so much!!Lorna- In Texas_Thyroid_Groups , Jan <texasthyroid@y...>

wrote:>> Your ferritin at 52 looks pretty good. 50-100 is considered optimal for most folks.> > ATPO antibodies at 309 indicates a condition known as "antibodies out the wazoo," and suggests that you may have Hashi. The activity of the antibodies may be responsible for your hypo symptoms. > > Both your Free T3 at 300 and your Free T4 at 1.1 are lower than most of us would like. If you feel well, they are fine. If not, then you may want to talk to your doc about a small increase in your Armour.> > Did you have your cortisol levels checked? Cortisol levels high in range, but definitely in range are essential for controlling antibodies. If your doc does not treat cortisol levels, some folks have had good luck with a plant sterol called Moducare. It is pricey, but you can search online for the best

prices. > > > dlbunger <dbunger@w...> wrote:> I just got my results online at Healthcheck. Any comments will be > most appreciated. I assume red would not be a good sign?> > Anti-Thyroglobulin AB Result <20 Range <40> Antithyroid Peroxidase Result 309 Range <35 (This one was in red)> > RDW Result 15.2 Range 11.5-14.5> Ferritin Result 52 Range 10-291> Bicarbonate Result 32 Range 21-30 (This one in red also)> Free Thyroxine FT4 Result 1.1 Range 0.8-1.8> Triiodothyronine Free Result 3.0 Range 2.3-4.2 is this the Free T3?> TSH (3rd Generation) Result 0.019 Range 0.35-5.50 (this one also in > red)> > I am currently on 3 grains armour thyroid and have been for at about > 20 years. Recently started

having hypo symptoms, ie fatigue, weight > gain, hair loss, etc.> > I had several other tests but they were all in the normal ranges or > I did not consider pertained to my symptoms. I'll be glad to share > any other results if needed though. I did the VIP II on Healthcheck > for anyone who is familiar with those tests. > > Thanks a lot, I am anxious to hear your comments and suggestions.> Lorna

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Thanks Kate, now I just have to convince the doctor, or find a new

one.

Lorna

> >I just got my results online at Healthcheck. Any comments will be

> >most appreciated. I assume red would not be a good sign?

> >

> >Anti-Thyroglobulin AB Result <20 Range <40

> >Antithyroid Peroxidase Result 309 Range <35 (This one was in

red)

> >

> >RDW Result 15.2 Range 11.5-14.5

> >Ferritin Result 52 Range 10-291

> >Bicarbonate Result 32 Range 21-30 (This one in red also)

> >Free Thyroxine FT4 Result 1.1 Range 0.8-1.8

> >Triiodothyronine Free Result 3.0 Range 2.3-4.2 is this the Free

T3?

> >TSH (3rd Generation) Result 0.019 Range 0.35-5.50 (this one also

in

> >red)

> >

> >I am currently on 3 grains armour thyroid and have been for at

about

> >20 years. Recently started having hypo symptoms, ie fatigue,

weight

> >gain, hair loss, etc.

> >

> >I had several other tests but they were all in the normal ranges

or

> >I did not consider pertained to my symptoms. I'll be glad to

share

> >any other results if needed though. I did the VIP II on

Healthcheck

> >for anyone who is familiar with those tests.

> >

> >Thanks a lot, I am anxious to hear your comments and suggestions.

> >Lorna

>

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Steph, what kind of iron do you take, prescription or over the

counter? And how much would I take? Thanks.

Lorna

>

> MY FERRITIN LEVEL WAS 53. MY DOCTOR SAID IT WOULD BE A GOO DIDEA

TO ADD

> SOME IRON TO MY REGIMEN.

> STEPH

>

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Jan, would you please elaborate on this? Thanks.

>

> Hashi can be very serious. The antibodies can attack other

organs.

>