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> >Do I make my point by accidentally including these things? No.

> >Sorry if it annoys you. I'll stop posting, asshole.

>

> OK, I guess I need to have the record set straight here. Since there was no

> reprimand for a listmember calling the list owner an asshole, does that mean

> name-calling is an acceptable practice on this list? Is it not a

> moderate-able offense? Honestly, I'm on about 30 lists (I only read a few

> these days though!) and I've never known any of them to allow name-calling

> without some sort of action by the moderator.

>

> While most of us do not engage in name-calling, so there is probably little

> risk of 5, 10 or 20 other people starting to call each other assholes on

> this list anytime soon, it seems to me that allowing this sets a precident.

> If one list member is allowed to do this, why not the rest of us? Would

> anyone moderate me if I called another list member a sh*thead tomorrow?

>

> Maybe it would be a good idea to give us a set of list rules so we know what

> is acceptable behavior and what is not. Cuz right now, I'm confused as to

> why something like this is acceptable. And since it does appear to be

> acceptable (because no one appears to have reprimanded Gene for it), I feel

> like I need to understand what IS an moderate-able offense?

>

> Forgive me if this was dealt with off-list and I have misspoken.

Memories of Junior high school.....

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> I do second you, Suze. I consider myself to be a very mundane (in the

> sense of worldly, of having already seen and heard a lot) person, but

> I was quite shocked to read that word on the list. Really, that was

> the first time ever. I was about to react, but when I saw 's too

> mild and polite (in my opinion) response, I felt disencouraged to

> speak further. Yes, I agree that this creates a precedent, and I find

> it highly obnoxious (to use a term that is so dear to Gene) that he

> was given the chance of getting away with it. To say " I will stop

> posting, a***e " is purely evasive. Well, maybe he thinks he has a

> right to be evasive, but then why join a list at all?

>

> José

>

" Evasive " . What in the world are you talking about. I was pissed off at what

said IN HIS ROLE AS MODERATOR, I responded, and he answered in, what I

thought was, a very responsible manner. I understand - you want BLOOD, because I

used a bad word, and now other people might use BAD WORDS. Oh my!

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I am sorry but I personally don't see how she was calling him an " ass " .

She said that " He seems to go out of his way to provoke people and it was

getting boring. "

I don't see how the leap was made to her calling him any names or even was

meaning to insinuate that statement.

I understand that Gene like to suck people into his world. I was not trying

to get involved into this discussion I was trying to agree with the fact

that I think it has gone too far and is now just taking up space on a list

that used to be educational for me and my family regarding native nutrition.

"

not signing emails is rude because it is like hanging up the phone on

someone without saying goodbye...

Well, talking about someone as if they are not there is also rude. " Gene

likes to suck people into his world " . Nice image. Do I use a straw?

But of course, none of you are rude because I used a bad word, and

therefore, even though requested that that conversation end, it is fine

for you to repeatedly insult me in your cute, polite ways, over and over

again.

I love all of this playing innocent stuff. YOu can say anything you like

about me, using nice polite words, and NO....you're not calling me an ass.

Why would I think that? Especially you religious folks...Oh please ignore my

gratuitous religious posturing...why do you have to respond, while they, of

course, are incapable of ignoring what I say, shouting their insults using

polite words so that they can excuse themselves.

But go on as you are. I'm obviously not here.

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