Guest guest Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Hi friends, I had the most delightful telephone conversation with May, MD, the person behind another " non-diet " program called " Am I Hungry " .. Website is http://amihungry.com/.. I had emailed her to ask if I could use some of her materials for the local support group I started (at 's suggestion).. And, yes I can, but she wanted to talk to me about my approach. The long story short is we spoke on the phone the other day - it was a wonderful conversation and she gave me tremendous encouragement for what I am doing in trying to spread the word... (I truly believe most dieters have no idea there is a way other than hating yourself thin!) In addition - she encouraged me to totally NOT make this about weight! Both in my personal journey and in my support group. WOW!! How do I do that?? I know that it's all about self-love and acceptance at any weight. I know (spiritually speaking) that we are all perfect just the way we are! And, I know the healthy weight should then follow after we truly believe we are deserving of only the best in self-care. But, when you are 100 lbs overweight, how can you totally get the weight out of your mind?? Like, when I am walking somewhere huffing and puffing and sweating?? Or, when I sit down in a chair and the sides of the chair barely (or don't) clear my thighs.. Or, when I had to order an airplane seat belt extender for my upcoming vacation.. Maybe it's just a different approach.. because ' certainly talks about weight a lot.. Just wanted to get your opinion. Thanks, Judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 I don't know. I guess if I was 20 lbs overweight I could just " let the weight take care of itself. " But at 285, I don't think I have that luxury. It's kind of a matter of life or death at this point. While I am working through the book and doing the exercises, I am still weighing myself every week. I think the key isn't necessarily to leave weight out of it, but to detach the emotion from the number on the scale. There's an awesome picture going around facebook that basically says the number on this scale is only a numeric value that registers a physical quality. It does not measure your value as a human being, your ability to love, your ability to be loved, your intelligence, your sense of humor.... I love that. So many of us do base our value on that number. That's where it has to stop. We need to treat the weight as a simple measurement. It's a tool to help us determine if we are succeeding in our goals and to see if what we are doing is working. It's only one tool. There's plenty of others. I will continue to weigh myself. > ** > > > Hi friends, > > I had the most delightful telephone conversation with May, MD, > the person behind another " non-diet " program called " Am I Hungry " .. Website > is http://amihungry.com/.. I had emailed her to ask if I could use some > of her materials for the local support group I started (at 's > suggestion).. And, yes I can, but she wanted to talk to me about my > approach. > > The long story short is we spoke on the phone the other day - it was a > wonderful conversation and she gave me tremendous encouragement for what I > am doing in trying to spread the word... (I truly believe most dieters have > no idea there is a way other than hating yourself thin!) In addition - she > encouraged me to totally NOT make this about weight! Both in my personal > journey and in my support group. > > WOW!! How do I do that?? I know that it's all about self-love and > acceptance at any weight. I know (spiritually speaking) that we are all > perfect just the way we are! And, I know the healthy weight should then > follow after we truly believe we are deserving of only the best in > self-care. > > But, when you are 100 lbs overweight, how can you totally get the weight > out of your mind?? Like, when I am walking somewhere huffing and puffing > and sweating?? Or, when I sit down in a chair and the sides of the chair > barely (or don't) clear my thighs.. Or, when I had to order an airplane > seat belt extender for my upcoming vacation.. > > Maybe it's just a different approach.. because ' certainly talks > about weight a lot.. > > Just wanted to get your opinion. > > Thanks, > > Judy > > > -- Amelia Ramstead http://www.linkedin.com/pub/amelia-ramstead/2b/25b/601 http://www.ameeramstead.com http://ameliaramstead.blogspot.com www.twitter.com/ameliaramstead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Judy I took a quick look at 's website, and I think that she means that if you are eating mindfully ONLY when you are hungry and work on the emotional issues, the weight will take care if itself. We should probably not think specifically about it by weighing and measuring compulsively, like I tend to do, and let it just be released (as ' says) naturally. There are a couple others out there saying similar things. One of them, Marc , is really in to the mindful eating. He suggests delaying the first bite of a meal or snack and take a few deep breaths while appreciating and being grateful for the food. Then you eat slowly and savor each bite. This is sooo hard for me because, Â if my blood sugar is low, I tend to dive face-first into my plate without even coming up for air until my brain realized that it has some sugar to sustain itself. Jena LaFlamme (who was on one of 's podcasts) is a disciple of Marc's, and she adds that we should choose movements we love like dancing, yoga, walking with friends, instead of formal exercise. Her big thing is pleasure. I don't know that this is any clearer for you. I don't think we big gals can totally forget about the weight in our culture. Someone or something is always reminding us that the world is built for thinner people. I just think that maybe these programs are designed to get to the heart of why we eat more than our bodies need to be healthy. If we can take care of these issues, the weight should normalize for us. Â Marcia ________________________________ To: insideoutweightloss Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 3:40 PM Subject: How to make this " NOT about weight?? " Â Hi friends, I had the most delightful telephone conversation with May, MD, the person behind another " non-diet " program called " Am I Hungry " .. Website is http://amihungry.com/.. I had emailed her to ask if I could use some of her materials for the local support group I started (at 's suggestion).. And, yes I can, but she wanted to talk to me about my approach. The long story short is we spoke on the phone the other day - it was a wonderful conversation and she gave me tremendous encouragement for what I am doing in trying to spread the word... (I truly believe most dieters have no idea there is a way other than hating yourself thin!) In addition - she encouraged me to totally NOT make this about weight! Both in my personal journey and in my support group. WOW!! How do I do that?? I know that it's all about self-love and acceptance at any weight. I know (spiritually speaking) that we are all perfect just the way we are! And, I know the healthy weight should then follow after we truly believe we are deserving of only the best in self-care. But, when you are 100 lbs overweight, how can you totally get the weight out of your mind?? Like, when I am walking somewhere huffing and puffing and sweating?? Or, when I sit down in a chair and the sides of the chair barely (or don't) clear my thighs.. Or, when I had to order an airplane seat belt extender for my upcoming vacation.. Maybe it's just a different approach.. because ' certainly talks about weight a lot.. Just wanted to get your opinion. Thanks, Judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 I agree with you, Amelia. Weight has to be monitored. I know that it is the first order of business when I see my MD! AND it plays an important part of everything we talk about on our visits. If I had twenty years to deal with my weight, maybe I could make it less about the weight and more about dealing with emotions and moving more. These " experts " I mentioned were just some people who happened to agree with the source that Judy mentioned. I read about this stuff compulsively, so I know what lots of coaches think and write about. I'm working with ' because she has the most balanced program I found.  ________________________________ To: insideoutweightloss Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 5:31 PM Subject: Re: How to make this " NOT about weight?? "  I don't know. I guess if I was 20 lbs overweight I could just " let the weight take care of itself. " But at 285, I don't think I have that luxury. It's kind of a matter of life or death at this point. While I am working through the book and doing the exercises, I am still weighing myself every week. I think the key isn't necessarily to leave weight out of it, but to detach the emotion from the number on the scale. There's an awesome picture going around facebook that basically says the number on this scale is only a numeric value that registers a physical quality. It does not measure your value as a human being, your ability to love, your ability to be loved, your intelligence, your sense of humor.... I love that. So many of us do base our value on that number. That's where it has to stop. We need to treat the weight as a simple measurement. It's a tool to help us determine if we are succeeding in our goals and to see if what we are doing is working. It's only one tool. There's plenty of others. I will continue to weigh myself. > ** > > > Hi friends, > > I had the most delightful telephone conversation with May, MD, > the person behind another " non-diet " program called " Am I Hungry " .. Website > is http://amihungry.com/.. I had emailed her to ask if I could use some > of her materials for the local support group I started (at 's > suggestion).. And, yes I can, but she wanted to talk to me about my > approach. > > The long story short is we spoke on the phone the other day - it was a > wonderful conversation and she gave me tremendous encouragement for what I > am doing in trying to spread the word... (I truly believe most dieters have > no idea there is a way other than hating yourself thin!) In addition - she > encouraged me to totally NOT make this about weight! Both in my personal > journey and in my support group. > > WOW!! How do I do that?? I know that it's all about self-love and > acceptance at any weight. I know (spiritually speaking) that we are all > perfect just the way we are! And, I know the healthy weight should then > follow after we truly believe we are deserving of only the best in > self-care. > > But, when you are 100 lbs overweight, how can you totally get the weight > out of your mind?? Like, when I am walking somewhere huffing and puffing > and sweating?? Or, when I sit down in a chair and the sides of the chair > barely (or don't) clear my thighs.. Or, when I had to order an airplane > seat belt extender for my upcoming vacation.. > > Maybe it's just a different approach.. because ' certainly talks > about weight a lot.. > > Just wanted to get your opinion. > > Thanks, > > Judy > > > -- Amelia Ramstead http://www.linkedin.com/pub/amelia-ramstead/2b/25b/601 http://www.ameeramstead.com http://ameliaramstead.blogspot.com www.twitter.com/ameliaramstead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Today as I was feeling the anxiety of going to a social event which tends to start a commentary in my head about how fat my thighs are, how big I look, how ugly I am, ect...I took a breath and said one of the quotes I took from Tara Brachs podcast outloud and then texted it to myself so that during the event I could take my " SELF " to this truth.  " I am a spiritual being experiencing this life in this physical body. I choose to live my life from this place of truth where I can find abundance, power, creativity and peace. " We need these bodies to experience this world and we need them healthy to experience it more fully but it is not who I am. Somehow I felt like this related to this discussion about what is important in this weight journey.  Livingston ________________________________ To: " insideoutweightloss " <insideoutweightloss > Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 5:51 PM Subject: Re: How to make this " NOT about weight?? "  I agree with you, Amelia. Weight has to be monitored. I know that it is the first order of business when I see my MD! AND it plays an important part of everything we talk about on our visits. If I had twenty years to deal with my weight, maybe I could make it less about the weight and more about dealing with emotions and moving more. These " experts " I mentioned were just some people who happened to agree with the source that Judy mentioned. I read about this stuff compulsively, so I know what lots of coaches think and write about. I'm working with ' because she has the most balanced program I found.  ________________________________ To: insideoutweightloss Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 5:31 PM Subject: Re: How to make this " NOT about weight?? "  I don't know. I guess if I was 20 lbs overweight I could just " let the weight take care of itself. " But at 285, I don't think I have that luxury. It's kind of a matter of life or death at this point. While I am working through the book and doing the exercises, I am still weighing myself every week. I think the key isn't necessarily to leave weight out of it, but to detach the emotion from the number on the scale. There's an awesome picture going around facebook that basically says the number on this scale is only a numeric value that registers a physical quality. It does not measure your value as a human being, your ability to love, your ability to be loved, your intelligence, your sense of humor.... I love that. So many of us do base our value on that number. That's where it has to stop. We need to treat the weight as a simple measurement. It's a tool to help us determine if we are succeeding in our goals and to see if what we are doing is working. It's only one tool. There's plenty of others. I will continue to weigh myself. > ** > > > Hi friends, > > I had the most delightful telephone conversation with May, MD, > the person behind another " non-diet " program called " Am I Hungry " .. Website > is http://amihungry.com/.. I had emailed her to ask if I could use some > of her materials for the local support group I started (at 's > suggestion).. And, yes I can, but she wanted to talk to me about my > approach. > > The long story short is we spoke on the phone the other day - it was a > wonderful conversation and she gave me tremendous encouragement for what I > am doing in trying to spread the word... (I truly believe most dieters have > no idea there is a way other than hating yourself thin!) In addition - she > encouraged me to totally NOT make this about weight! Both in my personal > journey and in my support group. > > WOW!! How do I do that?? I know that it's all about self-love and > acceptance at any weight. I know (spiritually speaking) that we are all > perfect just the way we are! And, I know the healthy weight should then > follow after we truly believe we are deserving of only the best in > self-care. > > But, when you are 100 lbs overweight, how can you totally get the weight > out of your mind?? Like, when I am walking somewhere huffing and puffing > and sweating?? Or, when I sit down in a chair and the sides of the chair > barely (or don't) clear my thighs.. Or, when I had to order an airplane > seat belt extender for my upcoming vacation.. > > Maybe it's just a different approach.. because ' certainly talks > about weight a lot.. > > Just wanted to get your opinion. > > Thanks, > > Judy > > > -- Amelia Ramstead http://www.linkedin.com/pub/amelia-ramstead/2b/25b/601 http://www.ameeramstead.com http://ameliaramstead.blogspot.com www.twitter.com/ameliaramstead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 I like that. A lot. > ** > > > Today as I was feeling the anxiety of going to a social event which tends > to start a commentary in my head about how fat my thighs are, how big I > look, how ugly I am, ect...I took a breath and said one of the quotes I > took from Tara Brachs podcast outloud and then texted it to myself so that > during the event I could take my " SELF " to this truth. > > " I am a spiritual being experiencing this life in this physical body. I > choose to live my life from this place of truth where I can find abundance, > power, creativity and peace. " > > We need these bodies to experience this world and we need them healthy to > experience it more fully but it is not who I am. Somehow I felt like this > related to this discussion about what is important in this weight journey. > > Livingston > > > ________________________________ > > To: " insideoutweightloss " < > insideoutweightloss > > Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 5:51 PM > Subject: Re: How to make this " NOT about weight?? " > > > > > I agree with you, Amelia. Weight has to be monitored. I know that it is > the first order of business when I see my MD! AND it plays an important > part of everything we talk about on our visits. If I had twenty years to > deal with my weight, maybe I could make it less about the weight and more > about dealing with emotions and moving more. These " experts " I mentioned > were just some people who happened to agree with the source that Judy > mentioned. I read about this stuff compulsively, so I know what lots > of coaches think and write about. I'm working with ' because she has > the most balanced program I found. > > > ________________________________ > > To: insideoutweightloss > Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 5:31 PM > Subject: Re: How to make this " NOT about weight?? " > > > > I don't know. I guess if I was 20 lbs overweight I could just " let the > weight take care of itself. " But at 285, I don't think I have that luxury. > It's kind of a matter of life or death at this point. While I am working > through the book and doing the exercises, I am still weighing myself every > week. > > I think the key isn't necessarily to leave weight out of it, but to detach > the emotion from the number on the scale. There's an awesome picture going > around facebook that basically says the number on this scale is only a > numeric value that registers a physical quality. It does not measure your > value as a human being, your ability to love, your ability to be loved, > your intelligence, your sense of humor.... > > I love that. So many of us do base our value on that number. That's where > it has to stop. We need to treat the weight as a simple measurement. It's > a tool to help us determine if we are succeeding in our goals and to see if > what we are doing is working. It's only one tool. There's plenty of > others. I will continue to weigh myself. > > > > > ** > > > > > > Hi friends, > > > > I had the most delightful telephone conversation with May, MD, > > the person behind another " non-diet " program called " Am I Hungry " .. > Website > > is http://amihungry.com/.. I had emailed her to ask if I could use some > > of her materials for the local support group I started (at 's > > suggestion).. And, yes I can, but she wanted to talk to me about my > > approach. > > > > The long story short is we spoke on the phone the other day - it was a > > wonderful conversation and she gave me tremendous encouragement for what > I > > am doing in trying to spread the word... (I truly believe most dieters > have > > no idea there is a way other than hating yourself thin!) In addition - > she > > encouraged me to totally NOT make this about weight! Both in my personal > > journey and in my support group. > > > > WOW!! How do I do that?? I know that it's all about self-love and > > acceptance at any weight. I know (spiritually speaking) that we are all > > perfect just the way we are! And, I know the healthy weight should then > > follow after we truly believe we are deserving of only the best in > > self-care. > > > > But, when you are 100 lbs overweight, how can you totally get the weight > > out of your mind?? Like, when I am walking somewhere huffing and puffing > > and sweating?? Or, when I sit down in a chair and the sides of the chair > > barely (or don't) clear my thighs.. Or, when I had to order an airplane > > seat belt extender for my upcoming vacation.. > > > > Maybe it's just a different approach.. because ' certainly talks > > about weight a lot.. > > > > Just wanted to get your opinion. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Judy > > > > > > > > -- > Amelia Ramstead > http://www.linkedin.com/pub/amelia-ramstead/2b/25b/601 > http://www.ameeramstead.com > http://ameliaramstead.blogspot.com > www.twitter.com/ameliaramstead > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 How not to make it about weight .... If I follow 's program with an open heart and mind, instead of skepticism and judgment, the inner me stops caring so deeply about the outer me, and my thoughts slowly evolve to that not-about-weight state naturally. I stop caring about what other people think and only what I think. That's what I like so much about IOWL where all other programs have failed me, even the " normal eating " ones. IOWL is intuitive, it's rational, it makes sense, and it works. My progress has not been linear or even consistent; there have been several big bumps along the way, but if I keep plugging along, it gets easier. Each failure and subsequent reattempt creates a new neural pathway in my brain, the beginning of new habit that, over time, will be my new norm. I believe this with all my heart. I will never give up because for me my weight IS more than a fat problem. It shows the history of my self care and trust. I am a much different person than I was 2 years ago on the inside, and the outside is slowly catching up. It took me more than a decade to get fat, so if it takes me a couple years to get to a reasonable weight, I am OK with that. I just trust that every other day or so I am losing ounces, and it will all catch up. : ) IOWL is like the Mafia--once you're in, they're no escape! I simply have not looked at food and my behavior the same way since. I can actually feel peace, even joy around meal time. The only reason I still carry excess weight is I when I stop putting myself for long periods. My away-from motivation has been temporarily addressed, so I stop dreaming big and thinking about my towards motivation, you know, what I want instead of what I have now. One of the most important parts of this program is " keeping it green, " and that's the part I struggle with. No amount of lightbulb moments and intellectualizing the program will keep it with me every day, every moment, which is exactly what I need until these new behaviors ARE my new habits. I don't want to add unnecessary negative crap to the mix, so I rarely weigh myself on the scale. I have no need to see those numbers to know that my jeans are getting snug or loose. How my clothes fit is my barometer for whether I am eating the right way for my body. If the pants get really loose, I hop on the scale, joyfully (and mentally) record the new low, and move on. I also do not weigh and measure my food. After decades of dieting, I know what a serving is. I also see an excellent, compassionate doctor. SHE knows my weight struggle is more than following a traditional diet, so if she weighs me, she has me to stand facing the opposite direction so I don't have to see that number. That's pretty cool. So in order to NOT make this journey about the fat, I try to put myself first, the old oxygen-mask thing. I lay in bed every morning until I find something to feel good about, a genuine good feeling that lets me get up with a smile. If I find myself whistling when I feed the cats, I know I have started my morning the right way. When I take good care of the insides, the outsides become just a sign or symptom of my previous behavior--and also my current if I am not " putting in. " So if I start huffing and puffing and my thighs rub together, I never think, " You disgusting pig, " the way I used to. I now immediately think of something to be grateful about, specifically something good I learned about myself in my IOWL journey. The only way I can make this journey NOT about weight is to treat my body with love and compassion, the way I would do for anyone else in my life that I care about. When I feel sorry for myself because I want to eat _____, there isn't any in the house, and I am contemplating a trip to the market, I ask myself what else, besides _____, could give me the good feeling I am seeking. I don't always have the answer, but I can almost always prevent myself from getting in the car, and I can almost always create good feelings that let me feel better about the way I am treating myself. And the interesting thing about treating myself well is it pays forward and back. Good self care is like dropping a tiny pebble in a calm lake. The good feeling radiates outward, creating more good feelings, such that it gets easier and easier over time to do the right thing for myself. That is how I make this about ME and not my weight. YMMV. : ) Chloe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 Excellent post,Chloe. skwpt wrote: >How not to make it about weight .... > >If I follow 's program with an open heart and mind, instead of skepticism and judgment, the inner me stops caring so deeply about the outer me, and my thoughts slowly evolve to that not-about-weight state naturally. I stop caring about what other people think and only what I think. > > >That's what I like so much about IOWL where all other programs have failed me, even the " normal eating " ones. IOWL is intuitive, it's rational, it makes sense, and it works. My progress has not been linear or even consistent; there have been several big bumps along the way, but if I keep plugging along, it gets easier. Each failure and subsequent reattempt creates a new neural pathway in my brain, the beginning of new habit that, over time, will be my new norm. I believe this with all my heart. I will never give up because for me my weight IS more than a fat problem. It shows the history of my self care and trust. > > >I am a much different person than I was 2 years ago on the inside, and the outside is slowly catching up. It took me more than a decade to get fat, so if it takes me a couple years to get to a reasonable weight, I am OK with that. I just trust that every other day or so I am losing ounces, and it will all catch up. : ) > > >IOWL is like the Mafia--once you're in, they're no escape! I simply have not looked at food and my behavior the same way since. I can actually feel peace, even joy around meal time. The only reason I still carry excess weight is I when I stop putting myself for long periods. My away-from motivation has been temporarily addressed, so I stop dreaming big and thinking about my towards motivation, you know, what I want instead of what I have now. One of the most important parts of this program is " keeping it green, " and that's the part I struggle with. No amount of lightbulb moments and intellectualizing the program will keep it with me every day, every moment, which is exactly what I need until these new behaviors ARE my new habits. > > >I don't want to add unnecessary negative crap to the mix, so I rarely weigh myself on the scale. I have no need to see those numbers to know that my jeans are getting snug or loose. How my clothes fit is my barometer for whether I am eating the right way for my body. If the pants get really loose, I hop on the scale, joyfully (and mentally) record the new low, and move on. I also do not weigh and measure my food. After decades of dieting, I know what a serving is. I also see an excellent, compassionate doctor. SHE knows my weight struggle is more than following a traditional diet, so if she weighs me, she has me to stand facing the opposite direction so I don't have to see that number. That's pretty cool. > > >So in order to NOT make this journey about the fat, I try to put myself first, the old oxygen-mask thing. I lay in bed every morning until I find something to feel good about, a genuine good feeling that lets me get up with a smile. If I find myself whistling when I feed the cats, I know I have started my morning the right way. When I take good care of the insides, the outsides become just a sign or symptom of my previous behavior--and also my current if I am not " putting in. " So if I start huffing and puffing and my thighs rub together, I never think, " You disgusting pig, " the way I used to. I now immediately think of something to be grateful about, specifically something good I learned about myself in my IOWL journey. > > >The only way I can make this journey NOT about weight is to treat my body with love and compassion, the way I would do for anyone else in my life that I care about. When I feel sorry for myself because I want to eat _____, there isn't any in the house, and I am contemplating a trip to the market, I ask myself what else, besides _____, could give me the good feeling I am seeking. I don't always have the answer, but I can almost always prevent myself from getting in the car, and I can almost always create good feelings that let me feel better about the way I am treating myself. > >And the interesting thing about treating myself well is it pays forward and back. Good self care is like dropping a tiny pebble in a calm lake. The good feeling radiates outward, creating more good feelings, such that it gets easier and easier over time to do the right thing for myself. > >That is how I make this about ME and not my weight. YMMV.  : ) > >Chloe > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 Chloe Thanks for taking the time to explain this so clearly. I especially appreciate your sharing your ups and downs with the program, and how we can forget what we learned, but we can always come back to the podcasts, and now the book, to get back on track. I know that I will always have a struggle with the self-compassion part of this process. I can't stop blaming myself for letting this happen to me. I know that I like to use the scale after I think I've been " good " around food for a couple days to see even a tiny change in my weight. It takes several pounds gained or lost to make a difference in my clothes, but that two-tenths of a pound can make or break my mood. I clearly have some work to do here! Marcia ________________________________ To: " insideoutweightloss " <insideoutweightloss > Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 8:50 AM Subject: Re: How to make this " NOT about weight?? "  How not to make it about weight .... If I follow 's program with an open heart and mind, instead of skepticism and judgment, the inner me stops caring so deeply about the outer me, and my thoughts slowly evolve to that not-about-weight state naturally. I stop caring about what other people think and only what I think. That's what I like so much about IOWL where all other programs have failed me, even the " normal eating " ones. IOWL is intuitive, it's rational, it makes sense, and it works. My progress has not been linear or even consistent; there have been several big bumps along the way, but if I keep plugging along, it gets easier. Each failure and subsequent reattempt creates a new neural pathway in my brain, the beginning of new habit that, over time, will be my new norm. I believe this with all my heart. I will never give up because for me my weight IS more than a fat problem. It shows the history of my self care and trust. I am a much different person than I was 2 years ago on the inside, and the outside is slowly catching up. It took me more than a decade to get fat, so if it takes me a couple years to get to a reasonable weight, I am OK with that. I just trust that every other day or so I am losing ounces, and it will all catch up. : ) IOWL is like the Mafia--once you're in, they're no escape! I simply have not looked at food and my behavior the same way since. I can actually feel peace, even joy around meal time. The only reason I still carry excess weight is I when I stop putting myself for long periods. My away-from motivation has been temporarily addressed, so I stop dreaming big and thinking about my towards motivation, you know, what I want instead of what I have now. One of the most important parts of this program is " keeping it green, " and that's the part I struggle with. No amount of lightbulb moments and intellectualizing the program will keep it with me every day, every moment, which is exactly what I need until these new behaviors ARE my new habits. I don't want to add unnecessary negative crap to the mix, so I rarely weigh myself on the scale. I have no need to see those numbers to know that my jeans are getting snug or loose. How my clothes fit is my barometer for whether I am eating the right way for my body. If the pants get really loose, I hop on the scale, joyfully (and mentally) record the new low, and move on. I also do not weigh and measure my food. After decades of dieting, I know what a serving is. I also see an excellent, compassionate doctor. SHE knows my weight struggle is more than following a traditional diet, so if she weighs me, she has me to stand facing the opposite direction so I don't have to see that number. That's pretty cool. So in order to NOT make this journey about the fat, I try to put myself first, the old oxygen-mask thing. I lay in bed every morning until I find something to feel good about, a genuine good feeling that lets me get up with a smile. If I find myself whistling when I feed the cats, I know I have started my morning the right way. When I take good care of the insides, the outsides become just a sign or symptom of my previous behavior--and also my current if I am not " putting in. " So if I start huffing and puffing and my thighs rub together, I never think, " You disgusting pig, " the way I used to. I now immediately think of something to be grateful about, specifically something good I learned about myself in my IOWL journey. The only way I can make this journey NOT about weight is to treat my body with love and compassion, the way I would do for anyone else in my life that I care about. When I feel sorry for myself because I want to eat _____, there isn't any in the house, and I am contemplating a trip to the market, I ask myself what else, besides _____, could give me the good feeling I am seeking. I don't always have the answer, but I can almost always prevent myself from getting in the car, and I can almost always create good feelings that let me feel better about the way I am treating myself. And the interesting thing about treating myself well is it pays forward and back. Good self care is like dropping a tiny pebble in a calm lake. The good feeling radiates outward, creating more good feelings, such that it gets easier and easier over time to do the right thing for myself. That is how I make this about ME and not my weight. YMMV.  : ) Chloe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 Thanks Chloe, this is great stuff! Carlton Larsen, Ba, Bgp Freelance Musician 426 Pinehouse Drive Saskatoon Sk S7K4X5 ________________________________ To: " insideoutweightloss " <insideoutweightloss > Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 7:50:31 AM Subject: Re: How to make this " NOT about weight?? " How not to make it about weight .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 ditto  Livingston ________________________________ To: " insideoutweightloss " <insideoutweightloss > Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 9:18 AM Subject: Re: Re: How to make this " NOT about weight?? "  Thanks Chloe, this is great stuff!  Carlton Larsen, Ba, Bgp Freelance Musician 426 Pinehouse Drive Saskatoon Sk S7K4X5 ________________________________ To: " insideoutweightloss " <insideoutweightloss > Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 7:50:31 AM Subject: Re: How to make this " NOT about weight?? "  How not to make it about weight .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 Judy Thanks again for the link to May's website. I've spent a bit more time there and found some great resources to use with my family. Also, I noticed that Dr. May has a book for diabetics and prediabetics coming out in Feb. using her " eat what you love; love what you eat " philosophy. I hope it helps DH to get with an eating plan for his diabetes. Marcia ________________________________ To: insideoutweightloss Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 3:40 PM Subject: How to make this " NOT about weight?? "  Hi friends, I had the most delightful telephone conversation with May, MD, the person behind another " non-diet " program called " Am I Hungry " .. Website is http://amihungry.com/.. I had emailed her to ask if I could use some of her materials for the local support group I started (at 's suggestion).. And, yes I can, but she wanted to talk to me about my approach. The long story short is we spoke on the phone the other day - it was a wonderful conversation and she gave me tremendous encouragement for what I am doing in trying to spread the word... (I truly believe most dieters have no idea there is a way other than hating yourself thin!) In addition - she encouraged me to totally NOT make this about weight! Both in my personal journey and in my support group. WOW!! How do I do that?? I know that it's all about self-love and acceptance at any weight. I know (spiritually speaking) that we are all perfect just the way we are! And, I know the healthy weight should then follow after we truly believe we are deserving of only the best in self-care. But, when you are 100 lbs overweight, how can you totally get the weight out of your mind?? Like, when I am walking somewhere huffing and puffing and sweating?? Or, when I sit down in a chair and the sides of the chair barely (or don't) clear my thighs.. Or, when I had to order an airplane seat belt extender for my upcoming vacation.. Maybe it's just a different approach.. because ' certainly talks about weight a lot.. Just wanted to get your opinion. Thanks, Judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 Thanks so much for posting that Chloe. It definitely spoke to me. I am just starting my week 2 work and have held off just a little because I found someone last week at work who wanted to do this with me. Yay! I asked a lot of people and I finally found someone. Since she would like us to be doing this about the same time, I've spent more time on the first assignment of week 2 waiting for her to catch up.  What has bothered me is that I'm still into the unhealthy food and I hoped that once I started the book; those cravings would miraculously disappear and they haven't. That being said, I have a lot of moments where I eat when I'm hungry and stop when I'm satisfied. There have been a lot of mornings, I chose a healthy breakfast and lots of lunches that were healthy. Dinners have been healthy on and off. I've continued 30 minutes or more of exercise 5 days a week. I am still pop free as of October 26th. But I haven't lost any weight...maybe even put on a pound. I don't know because I'm not getting on the scale. I've done too much " bad " eating for there to be a loss.  I keep telling myself that I'm still involved in the " process " and as I do more work, the rest will just fall away. Your post kind of reaffirmed that for me. Subject: Re: How to make this " NOT about weight?? " To: " insideoutweightloss " <insideoutweightloss > Date: Sunday, January 22, 2012, 7:50 AM  How not to make it about weight .... If I follow 's program with an open heart and mind, instead of skepticism and judgment, the inner me stops caring so deeply about the outer me, and my thoughts slowly evolve to that not-about-weight state naturally. I stop caring about what other people think and only what I think. That's what I like so much about IOWL where all other programs have failed me, even the " normal eating " ones. IOWL is intuitive, it's rational, it makes sense, and it works. My progress has not been linear or even consistent; there have been several big bumps along the way, but if I keep plugging along, it gets easier. Each failure and subsequent reattempt creates a new neural pathway in my brain, the beginning of new habit that, over time, will be my new norm. I believe this with all my heart. I will never give up because for me my weight IS more than a fat problem. It shows the history of my self care and trust. I am a much different person than I was 2 years ago on the inside, and the outside is slowly catching up. It took me more than a decade to get fat, so if it takes me a couple years to get to a reasonable weight, I am OK with that. I just trust that every other day or so I am losing ounces, and it will all catch up. : ) IOWL is like the Mafia--once you're in, they're no escape! I simply have not looked at food and my behavior the same way since. I can actually feel peace, even joy around meal time. The only reason I still carry excess weight is I when I stop putting myself for long periods. My away-from motivation has been temporarily addressed, so I stop dreaming big and thinking about my towards motivation, you know, what I want instead of what I have now. One of the most important parts of this program is " keeping it green, " and that's the part I struggle with. No amount of lightbulb moments and intellectualizing the program will keep it with me every day, every moment, which is exactly what I need until these new behaviors ARE my new habits. I don't want to add unnecessary negative crap to the mix, so I rarely weigh myself on the scale. I have no need to see those numbers to know that my jeans are getting snug or loose. How my clothes fit is my barometer for whether I am eating the right way for my body. If the pants get really loose, I hop on the scale, joyfully (and mentally) record the new low, and move on. I also do not weigh and measure my food. After decades of dieting, I know what a serving is. I also see an excellent, compassionate doctor. SHE knows my weight struggle is more than following a traditional diet, so if she weighs me, she has me to stand facing the opposite direction so I don't have to see that number. That's pretty cool. So in order to NOT make this journey about the fat, I try to put myself first, the old oxygen-mask thing. I lay in bed every morning until I find something to feel good about, a genuine good feeling that lets me get up with a smile. If I find myself whistling when I feed the cats, I know I have started my morning the right way. When I take good care of the insides, the outsides become just a sign or symptom of my previous behavior--and also my current if I am not " putting in. " So if I start huffing and puffing and my thighs rub together, I never think, " You disgusting pig, " the way I used to. I now immediately think of something to be grateful about, specifically something good I learned about myself in my IOWL journey. The only way I can make this journey NOT about weight is to treat my body with love and compassion, the way I would do for anyone else in my life that I care about. When I feel sorry for myself because I want to eat _____, there isn't any in the house, and I am contemplating a trip to the market, I ask myself what else, besides _____, could give me the good feeling I am seeking. I don't always have the answer, but I can almost always prevent myself from getting in the car, and I can almost always create good feelings that let me feel better about the way I am treating myself. And the interesting thing about treating myself well is it pays forward and back. Good self care is like dropping a tiny pebble in a calm lake. The good feeling radiates outward, creating more good feelings, such that it gets easier and easier over time to do the right thing for myself. That is how I make this about ME and not my weight. YMMV.  : ) Chloe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 First let me thank everyone who responded! You all helped me a great deal. I also talked to my life coach about this today and she offered up some advice.. For example, how can I possibly turn " my thighs hit the sides of the chair - ouch " into something positive and NOT about weight. She said to reframe it, and when I hear my inner critic start to say something negative about that experience, catch it and say instead: " WOW, it'll feel great soon when I slide easily into the chair " .. Okay, so there is some weight related issues behind the sentence, but it is a positive sentence nonetheless.. Amelia and others who do choose to step on the metal monster… I hear what you are saying about detaching myself from the # on the scale.. but I just can't. Now, mind you, I don't get on it unless I think there is a downward change.. or unless it's a - MONDAY, AND TODAY IS THE DAY WHERE I REALLY GET SERIOUS " kind of day. So, therefore I rarely weigh myself but I can kind of tell based on my clothes. , I love your spiritual saying! Thanks for sharing! Marcia, thanks for sharing the Marc info.. I just looked him up.. Had never heard of him and I thought I had heard of all the experts in this segment of the field! It looks like he has some good stuff. Speaking of us Bigger Folks, I just finished a great book (that I got for free for the Kindle!) entitled Health At Any Size by Bacon… web info at http://www.lindabacon.org/. It is a wonderful book that among things tells us that all the " studies " about how being overweight and obese is a huge health threat is NOT true! Now, for me I know my weight has a lot to do with my quality of life. But, for others it is totally an emotional issue.. and basically, what's the difference??? Get rid of the head trash surrounding those last few pounds and just BE HAPPY!! If your special someone doesn't love you at the weight you are at, that's their problem and not yours! (On another thread that I did not reply to but meant to… my greatest loves have been for NOT good looking guys who also had weight issues. The key was we loved each other and accepted ourselves and it did not matter. Weight and looks had nothing to do with it!! We shared a passion that was amazing. Our loveableness (not a word I know) should have nothing to do with what we weigh. And, if it does matter to you to the point of ruining your life, then you owe it to yourself to find someone who loves you - body and soul for what you are… sorry, off soap box now.. just sayin'.. (Oh, and I have my own marital issues by the way... but it has nothing to do about weight or attraction to each other... because there is none and that is okay for now..). Chloe, thank you for your beautiful post.. I am going to implement the getting out of bed ritual. There is always something positive! I sing to my cats by the way as I am preparing their breakfast… The I Love You song…. Here are the lyrics: " I Love You, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you " .. REPEAT & #61514; " Weight " in my mind is something that I am uncomfortable about " within " … my perception of myself. I don't care as much about what others think. Really, the only one person on the planet I care about is my 97 year old father in law, who when he sees me next (haven't seen him in 2 years) will freak out. You see, he is fat-phobic and my DH avoids seeing him in Florida (we're in ILL) because of this. DH is chubby, but I am way beyond chubby (for now that is!). I don't want to embarrass my DH. But, ya know… as I go through this journey… it is what it is .. and if DH can `t stand up for me then let him take the cr@p his father will dish out when we visit him in a couple of months. I will go through this journey at my own pace and I will make it permanent! A long post.. thanks for reading!! Hugs and love to you all, Judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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