Guest guest Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 Hi all, My friend's little girl has cystic fibrosis. Does anyone have any dietary advice? Perhaps coconut oil would be beneficial? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 Omega 3 all the way.!! Dietary advice for a child with cystic fibrosis? > > > Hi all, > > My friend's little girl has cystic fibrosis. Does anyone have any > dietary advice? Perhaps coconut oil would be beneficial? > > > > > > > > > <HTML> > <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC " -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN " > " http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd " > > <BODY> > <FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " > > Important <B>Native Nutrition</B> Addresses > <UL> > <LI>Native Nutrition on the <A > HREF= " / " >WEB</A> > <LI>Search the message <A HREF= " http://onibasu.dyndns.org/ " >ARCHIVE</A> > & mdash; <B>NEW FEATURE!</B></LI> > <LI>Change your group <A > HREF= " /join " >SETTINGS</A></\ LI> > <LI><A HREF= " mailto: " >POST</A> a > message</LI> > <LI><A > HREF= " mailto: -subscribe " >SUBSCRIBE</A> to > the list</LI> > <LI><A > HREF= " mailto: -unsubscribe " >UNSUBSCRIBE</A> > from the list</LI> > <LI>Send an <A > HREF= " mailto: -owner " >EMAIL</A> to the List > Owner & Moderators</LI> > </UL></FONT> > <PRE><FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " >List Owner: Idol > Moderators: Heidi Schuppenhauer > Wanita Sears > </FONT></PRE> > </BODY> > </HTML> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 My niece has CF. Your friend's daughter is going to be on a lot of enzymes. Just make sure she is seeing (and I'd bet she is) an MD who specializes in CF. If you don't know much about CF, it is progressive. Over time the lungs deteriorate. Also they have digestive problems which cause slow growth, due to malabsorption. The life expectancy is no more than 40 years, most say 25 years. The oldest person with CF lived to be in their early 40's. Getting sick is a big deal for a person with CF. A few years ago, a teen with CF died because she caught a bacterial infection from a tube of mascara. The doctors didn't know what strain of bacteria it was and didn't know which antibiotic to give her, so the ones they were giving her, however strong, were ineffective. Your friend's child is likely to have repeated courses of very strong IV antibiotics over the course of her life. My niece has to go into the hospital at least once a year to do this for a few weeks. So, anything that could boost the child's immune system safely (maybe daily and continuous doses of Astragalus) might be helpful to help keep her from getting sick. I would also say consider Garden of Life Primal Defense probiotics to help keep her gut healthy. This should be checked with her MD though since it is bacterial. I know some children who live about 45 minutes from here who have CF who have reduced their need for enzymes and breathing treatments since taking Ambrotose daily. It is a product based on the book Sugars That Heal. Their mother put them on it when they were very young and their condition is much better than projected for their age. More info here: http://wealth.myglycostore.com/ My niece is not on Ambrotose because it is alternative and her parents are very conventional. I couldn't even go there with them. Does anyone know of any other glyconutrient product or other sources of these 8 essential sugars? I know that you can get D-Mannose by itself and it is available in cranberries and whole leaf aloe, but don't know much about the other sugars, except that galactose is available from milk which my son and I can't have due to IgA antibodies. Connie Bernard http://www.PandoraPads.com Organic Cotton Feminine Pads, Tampons, Nursing Pads, Natural Progesterone Cream, and Children's Supplements. On-line Discount Voucher: nn242g223 -----Original Message----- From: Adler Hi all, My friend's little girl has cystic fibrosis. Does anyone have any dietary advice? Perhaps coconut oil would be beneficial? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 > Does anyone know of any other glyconutrient product or other sources of > these 8 essential sugars? I know that you can get D-Mannose by itself and > it is available in cranberries and whole leaf aloe, but don't know much > about the other sugars, except that galactose is available from milk which > my son and I can't have due to IgA antibodies. One of the sugars, fucose, in found in medicinal mushrooms, and , IIRC, in sea veggies. Most people already get plenty of glucose and galactose. Garden of Life has a product called RM-10 made from 10 fermented medicinal mushrooms. I'm not pushing the product here, but there is a list of mushrooms on the bottle that might be helpful or one could go to their website and possibly see the list. Beta Glucan is great for the immune system. I'm a big fan of supplemental enzymes in general. Would proteases be good for such a child? Bromelain has zero toxicity and its effects are not limited to the digestive tract. It is extracted from the stem of the pineapple plant and has been found to promote faster tissue repair. Real Greek oregano oil seems to have very powerful effects as it contains carvacrol (among other things) which is a natural solvent. I'm not sure how well it can be recommended for such a child, but a little goes a very long way. Seems like it would be a natural for clearing airways, and it has good antibiotic effects. Some people warn that real oregano oil, as an edible essential oil, can stress the liver, so that may need to be taken into consideration. Darrell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 >> Does anyone know of any other glyconutrient product or other sources of >> these 8 essential sugars? I know that you can get D-Mannose by itself and >> it is available in cranberries and whole leaf aloe, but don't know much >> about the other sugars, except that galactose is available from milk which >> my son and I can't have due to IgA antibodies. Has he been tested for gluten intolerance? CD and CF are common in the same population (Northern Europeans) and both mess up digestion. Sounds like you've had the IgA test for casein, which is great! Coconut oil IS very good, but if even that is too difficult, you can get MCT from Parillo.com. Start with small doses. Also, meat is a lot easier to digest if it is raw ... seared steak, sliced and tossed with olive oil and lemon juice is nice! http://www.ecfsoc.org/brussels/gastro/g01595.html We report 11 patients (8 boys, 3 girls) from 4 different countries (Italy, S Germany, the Netherlands and Belgium) who are affected by both Cystic Fibrosis (CF) and Coeliac disease (CD). Seven had been suspected of CF by neonatal screening (BM-test, IRT). All presented with gastro-intestinal symptoms (diarrhoea, vomiting, fat malabsorption, failure to thrive). Investigations, including a pilocarpine iontophoresis, revealed CF in all. Although correct therapy was instituted, digestive problems did not improve to expectations and all children needed further investigations. As D-xylose test, gliadine antibodies and other biochemical assays suggested CD, intestinal biopsy was performed and showed villous atrophy in all. After strict elimination of gluten from the diet nutritional status improved remarkably and in some there was even a striking amelioration of pulmonary function tests. Further elaboration of the gluten intolerance according to the ESPGAN criteria confirmed the tentative diagnosis of CD, thus proving its coexistence in these CF-patients. No constant relationship between presence of delta F508 or any other genotype and the CD/CF combination could be demonstrated. Heidi Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 Connie B. wrote: >>> about the other sugars, except that galactose is available from milk which >>> my son and I can't have due to IgA antibodies. Heidi S. wrote: >Has he been tested for gluten intolerance? CD and CF are common >in the same population (Northern Europeans) and both mess >up digestion. Sounds like you've had the IgA test for casein, which >is great! My niece has CF. We tested for CF by Chorionic villi sample in utero. My dh is a carrier, but I am not. My son is not a carrier of delta F508. He does have HLA DQ 3, two copies so he is subject to the more severe form of celiac disease and gluten intolerance. Incidentally Mediterranean folks have CF too. In fact the Acadian population has high rates. My dh is descended from de Medici and is French Acadian. I am well versed in IgA AB for gluten and casein. You're preachin' to the choir. LOL We didn't test my son for the complete stool test because by the time we really had the extra cash, he had been off of gluten and dairy for 2 years. It really isn't necessary according to Dr. Fine. There is a clear history of gluten and casein intolerance for him though from birth in breast milk. Dh and I have had both gene testing and stool testing for these. I have elevated antibodies for Gluten, Antitissue Transglutaminase, and casein. The antitissue transglutaminase ab are the ones that indicate autoimmune form of the disease. I have that. I have 2 other autoimmune disorders. :-( I live with them very well though and manage very well with little rx meds (thyroid only), but mostly good diet. We use coconut oil here liberally. The only thing we miss is all the fat from dairy. That is hard for us, but we just make up for it with lots of grassfed beef, good eggs and extra coconut oil. Some people have commented on occasion that they have never seen a child so small eat so much meat (or eggs) at once. I just shrug it off and explain that he doesn't get any protein or fat from milk as most children do and go on about my business. Health and nutrition has become something of an obsession for me. (did I just say that?!) Connie Bernard http://www.PandoraPads.com Organic Cotton Feminine Pads, Tampons, Nursing Pads, Natural Progesterone Cream, and Children's Supplements. On-line Discount Voucher: aa242a223 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 Connie >I am well versed in IgA AB for gluten and casein. You're preachin' to the >choir. LOL Well I shoulda known that ... but I would lose my Glutenator title if I didn't even mention gluten! Actually I'm surprised that it doesn't come up more with CF. Seems that MOST people can't digest gluten properly, and for someone with impaired digestion, it would be logical to toss it out of the diet whether or not the person reacts to it immune-system-wise. > The only thing we miss is all the fat from dairy. That is hard for us, but >we just make up for it with lots of grassfed beef, good eggs and extra >coconut oil. Some people have commented on occasion that they have never >seen a child so small eat so much meat (or eggs) at once. I just shrug it >off and explain that he doesn't get any protein or fat from milk as most >children do and go on about my business. Yeah, that's a hard one to replace. I did discover recently though, that coconut oil with a little salt in it works a WHOLE LOT like butter on bread. Also if you melt it and add raw garlic it is great for dipping crab into. I haven't tried making " garlic butter " from it but seems like it would be a nobrainer. I haven't figured out a replacement for cheese yet, but since I gave it up the smell of it bothers me (stinky feet maybe? <g>) so that hasn't been an issue. I crave anchovies though, so I'm learning how to make them, those little cans cost too much. >Health and nutrition has become something of an obsession for me. (did I >just say that?!) Hey, you found the right place! Actually I started doing this " nutrition " thing as a result of my own kid having problems. Funny how a person can ignore their OWN health, but goes into full gear if a kid gets sick! > Heidi Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2004 Report Share Posted December 30, 2004 How true! That is what kick started my journey! Catz > >Health and nutrition has become something of an obsession for me. (did I > >just say that?!) > > Hey, you found the right place! Actually I started doing this " nutrition " > thing > as a result of my own kid having problems. Funny how a person can ignore > their OWN health, but goes into full gear if a kid gets sick! > > > > Heidi Jean > > > > > > <HTML> > <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC " -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN " > " http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd " > > <BODY> > <FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " > > Important <B>Native Nutrition</B> Addresses > <UL> > <LI>Native Nutrition on the <A > HREF= " / " >WEB</A> > <LI>Search the message <A HREF= " http://onibasu.dyndns.org/ " >ARCHIVE</A> > & mdash; <B>NEW FEATURE!</B></LI> > <LI>Change your group <A > HREF= " /join " >SETTINGS</A></\ LI> > <LI><A HREF= " mailto: " >POST</A> a > message</LI> > <LI><A > HREF= " mailto: -subscribe " >SUBSCRIBE</A> to > the list</LI> > <LI><A > HREF= " mailto: -unsubscribe " >UNSUBSCRIBE</A> > from the list</LI> > <LI>Send an <A > HREF= " mailto: -owner " >EMAIL</A> to the List > Owner & Moderators</LI> > </UL></FONT> > <PRE><FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " >List Owner: Idol > Moderators: Heidi Schuppenhauer > Wanita Sears > </FONT></PRE> > </BODY> > </HTML> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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