Guest guest Posted March 26, 2005 Report Share Posted March 26, 2005 > The question of " feeling pain " could be easily answered using MRI > technology ... the brain cells show change if say, you prick someone with > a pin, if there is nerve activity. I swear this is a true story I saw on Discovery Channel. This young black boy, born in a ghetto, was caught in a gun fight. 1/4 of his head was blown off. Take a sphere and cut it into forths - remove an upper section. That is what was left. Not only did he live, he was quite normal except for the fact he looked like a freak with this major quarter section of the brain and skull missing. I would not have believed it had I not seen it. As he was treated as an indigent, nothing was done to help him cosmetically until a plastic surgeon just happened to notice him one day several years later. At his own expense, the doctor took the boy and reconstructed his skull with a plate and made him look normal. Of course, he still was missing a major big chunk of his brain but you know what, he really didn't need it. We know next to nothing about the brain. Anyone saying she feels no pain is shooting their mouth off. They really do not know. > > <HTML><!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC " -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN " > " http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd " ><BODY><FONT > FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " > > <B>IMPORTANT ADDRESSES</B> > <UL> > <LI><B><A > HREF= " / " >NATIVE > NUTRITION</A></B> online</LI> > <LI><B><A HREF= " http://onibasu.com/ " >SEARCH</A></B> the entire message > archive with Onibasu</LI> > </UL></FONT> > <PRE><FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " ><B><A > HREF= " mailto: -owner " >LIST OWNER:</A></B> > Idol > <B>MODERATORS:</B> Heidi Schuppenhauer > Wanita Sears > </FONT></PRE> > </BODY> > </HTML> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2005 Report Share Posted March 26, 2005 >Not only did he live, he was quite normal except for the >fact he looked like a freak with this major quarter section of the brain and >skull missing. I would not have believed it had I not seen it. As he was >treated as an indigent, nothing was done to help him cosmetically until a >plastic surgeon just happened to notice him one day several years later. At >his own expense, the doctor took the boy and reconstructed his skull with a >plate and made him look normal. Of course, he still was missing a major big >chunk of his brain but you know what, he really didn't need it. > >We know next to nothing about the brain. Anyone saying she feels no pain is >shooting their mouth off. They really do not know. It's true we know little of the brain. But it DOES show reaction quite nicely. If anyone had thought to do an MRI scan of said indigent, they would have found out interesting stuff. The brain CAN recover function, and often does. There was a great bit in Ripley's Believe it or Not museum about a guy who drilled a hole in the top of his head, and kept a candle lit there. (a religious thing). However, if a person does not move or talk for 12 years or so, the chances are, her brain is not recovering. Most folks who recover, do so in the first week or year. But again, the issue for me is not this ONE person, but the other, far more curable people that are being ignored. Like it or not, the health budget is being cut drastically, and thousands of perfectly curable people will die as a result. If you were a doctor, and you had to choose between Terri and a young black baby who would likely be ok after a week or so of respirator, which would you choose? Doctors and hospitals DO have to choose, every day, in every city of the world. It's a hard choice. Heidi Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2005 Report Share Posted March 27, 2005 > -----Original Message----- > From: Heidi Schuppenhauer [mailto:heidis@...] > > But again, the issue for me is not this ONE person, but the > other, far more curable people that are being ignored. Like > it or not, the health budget is being cut drastically, and > thousands of perfectly curable people will die as a result. There's no such thing as " the health budget. " In the United States, there's a Federal health budget, fifty state health budgets, a few territorial health budgets, thousands of municipal health budgets, and millions of personal health budgets. I find it hard to believe that any of these are, in the aggregate, being " cut drastically. " Which of these do you believe is being " cut drastically, " and why do you believe this? For the record, the offer I made to you over a year ago still stands: " I will donate $100 to a non-ideological charity of your choosing (and my employer will match it) if you can come up with solid numbers from a reputable source that show that total government spending (federal, state, and local) per student has declined (after adjustment for inflation) in any two states in the last five years (that is, compare spending in the most recent year for which you can find statistics with spending in the five years prior to it). To make it more interesting, I will donate the same amount if you can show that per-student, inflation-adjusted spending has failed to increase by at least 5% in the last ten years in any five states. If you can do both, I'll donate $200. " > If you were a doctor, and you had to choose between Terri and > a young black baby who would likely be ok after a week or so > of respirator, which would you choose? Are you implying that this was the case with Sun Hudson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2005 Report Share Posted March 27, 2005 > -----Original Message----- > From: Berg [mailto:bberg@...] > > For the record, the offer I made to you over a year ago still stands: > > " I will donate $100 to a non-ideological charity of your > choosing (and my employer will match it) if you can come up > with solid numbers from a reputable source that show that > total government spending (federal, state, and local) per > student has declined (after adjustment for inflation) in any > two states in the last five years (that is, compare spending > in the most recent year for which you can find statistics > with spending in the five years prior to it). To make it more > interesting, I will donate the same amount if you can show > that per-student, inflation-adjusted spending has failed to > increase by at least 5% in the last ten years in any five > states. If you can do both, I'll donate $200. " Oh. Sorry. I copied and pasted without really paying attention. Same deal with per-capita medical spending, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2005 Report Share Posted March 27, 2005 On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 23:48:24 -0800, Heidi Schuppenhauer <heidis@...> wrote: > But again, the issue for me is not this ONE person, but the other, far > more curable people that are being ignored. Like it or not, the health > budget is being cut drastically, and thousands of perfectly curable people > will die as a result. If you were a doctor, and you had to choose between > Terri and a young black baby who would likely be ok after a week or so > of respirator, which would you choose? Doctors and hospitals DO have to > choose, every day, in every city of the world. It's a hard choice. While I find it suspicious that Sun Hudson's story got no news and suspect that this has something to do with him being a poor black baby, from the Googling I did, it's my understanding that the doctor's all thought the care was futile and he had no chance to live. I believe the mother, who also thought he was the human embodiment of the sun (hence his name), who is his father (immaculate conception), is the only one who thought he'd be fine after he grew a little. Nevertheless your basic point remains. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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