Guest guest Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 Hi folks, I just wanted to point out that for me, and very likely most other people, subject lines are most useful when they reflect the topic matter of the posts. So, obviously, if the subject changes it is best to change the subject line (with a few posts retaining the old line during the transition so people recognize the thread.) But, more importantly, subject lines should be related in the first place. So, for example, " Hey check this out! " is not very helpful. And for the person who wrote it, it's likely they'd get less people reading it and less a chance of a response if they don't clearly indicate the subject. I'm more likely to click on a subject line that says the name of a book, for example, than says, " Check out this book. " It really isn't helpful for a subject line to just say the person the post is to (it is a public list, so really it's for everyone) *especially* if it branches off into sub-topics. So, " reply to so-and-so " makes things more difficult, and it tops it off when there are 10 responses which down the line end up being a discussion of a different topic between people not named in the subject line. I use GMail, so each subject line is presented as one email in my inbox, and then when I open it, it streams down the thread. So, while not everyone uses GMail... I'm sure a lot of other people are clicking on something like " organize by subject line " so they can keep the threads together for easy reading. Changing the subject line when it *doesn't* need to be changed really disrupts the ability to organize by subject line, because it makes one thread into a bunch of different emails with unrelated subject lines. I'm not trying to preach, I'm just throwing that out there because I assume a lot of other people reading also find the same thing. I'm not going to tell anyone how to do their subject lines, but I do want people to know what's most helpful. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 > >I just wanted to point out that for me, and very likely most other >people, subject lines are most useful when they reflect the topic >matter of the posts. So, obviously, if the subject changes it is best >to change the subject line (with a few posts retaining the old line >during the transition so people recognize the thread.) > > Yes, this is a good point, but sometimes lately, folks have been rampantly changing subject lines, often adding in someone's name to the mix. Now while this may bode well in a small group, we are over a thousand, and it just can get confusing when it changes post to post. >But, more importantly, subject lines should be related in the first >place. So, for example, " Hey check this out! " is not very helpful. > > > No kidding! Please let's try and use topics of the post in the subject line. For a book recommendation, the title would suffice. >It really isn't helpful for a subject line to just say the person the >post is to (it is a public list, so really it's for everyone) >*especially* if it branches off into sub-topics. So, " reply to >so-and-so " makes things more difficult, > > Yes, like I said about this not being a small group, the naming in subjects is not very useful usually. And then some folks like the 's aren't always caught up to date. So they reply to a subject like " Second insult to Gayle " and we've all long forgotten what it was all about. Unless it is the entire point of the post, like the " Chris Masterjohn is Sexy! " topic was, then it is just plain annoying. >I use GMail, so each subject line is presented as one email in my >inbox, and then when I open it, it streams down the thread. So, while >not everyone uses GMail... > > I'm not using GMail, and I STILL think it's a pain to have post written to *whom* rather than about *what*! >I'm not trying to preach, I'm just throwing that out there because I >assume a lot of other people reading also find the same thing. I'm >not going to tell anyone how to do their subject lines, but I do want >people to know what's most helpful. > >Chris > You're not preaching, you're complaining. And I second everything you've noted. I think if we just ignored these posts, much like we ignore people who leave " Digest #6723866 " in the subject line, then the problem will go away. Deanna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 --- Deanna Wagner <hl@...> wrote: > Yes, like I said about this not being a small group, > the naming in > subjects is not very useful usually. And then some > folks like the > 's aren't always caught up to date. LOL! What a gracious understatement!!!! At least regarding this :-) take care, " In The Abolition of Man, C.S. observed that the modern schoolboy is conditioned to take one side in a controversy which he has not learned to recognize as a controversy at all. That is, he is trained to assume a materialist and Darwinian outlook, without realizing that materialism and Darwinism have been subject to thoughtful criticisms from their first appearance. " Joe Sobran __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 On 7/13/05, Deanna Wagner <hl@...> wrote: > Yes, this is a good point, but sometimes lately, folks have been > rampantly changing subject lines, often adding in someone's name to the > mix. Now while this may bode well in a small group, we are over a > thousand, and it just can get confusing when it changes post to post. Absolutely! That was a point I actually meant to include. The changing of subject lines should be done judiciously. They should always be changed *when needed* and kept the same when *not needed.* I think that with an individual post system like most email clients have, keeping the initial line at the beginning and adding a word at the end to specify a sub-thread at the end is helpful, but personally for GMail it's counterproductive, because it divorces the subthread from the rest of the thread. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 >LOL! What a gracious understatement!!!! At least >regarding this :-) > >take care, > > Welcome back to cyberspace, . Now, um, do like we said and change the subject line of your Orthodox food discussion! I find it on topic and not in the least political ... yet. But it ain't got nothin' to do with Heidi, lol. Peace, Deanna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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