Guest guest Posted December 27, 2004 Report Share Posted December 27, 2004 Tom, Thank you for posting this. I just saw the death toll is now up to 22,000. I just feel stunned right now. I read an article that the shrimp farming has destroyed the mangrove and coral reefs that act as natural breaks for tidal waves. Many of the small villages behind these barriers would have survived. They did in the 60s before we had this insatiable desire for cheap shrimp. The shrimp farms are mostly owned by foreigners, Europeans and Americans. Again all I can think of is what is the price we pay for all our cheap foods. Lynn > > > Hi All, > For those who haven't heard, the Earthquake/Tsunami yesterday has > claimed tens of thousands of lives & MANY more will suffer without aid. > > This disaster is HUGE & will stretch the resources of relief agencies. > > Make a difference, PLEASE support the aid agency of your choice NOW. > whatever you can. every dollar counts. > > how easy is this, click here: > https://www.redcross.org/donate/donation-form.asp > > http://www.oxfam.org.uk/what_you_can_do/give_to_oxfam/donate/asiaquake1204.htm > > many many thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2004 Report Share Posted December 27, 2004 I'm not sure how much effect the mangroves would have had on a 30-foot-tall wall of water traveling 500 miles per hour. Another sad part is that those countries hit by the tsunami have NO tidal warning system. IIRC, the news reports said it was the biggest quake in the last 40 years. Did the tsunami hit the Maldives? The Maldives is the newest secret, holiday resort getaway for many of the world celebrities. Darrell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2004 Report Share Posted December 27, 2004 [Tom] For those who haven't heard, the Earthquake/Tsunami yesterday has claimed tens of thousands of lives & MANY more will suffer without aid. [MAP] Hi Tom, where did this happen? California? Another country? Just curious, haven't heard of this event anywhere else. Mike SE Pennsylvania The best way to predict the future is to invent it. --Alan Kay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2004 Report Share Posted December 27, 2004 The tsunami originated in the Indian Ocean and hit between 6 and 8 countries, but even those countries had zero warning. The USA has pledged to help institute an early tidal warning system in the Indian Ocean since the countries hit by the tsunami say they are too poor to build one themselves. Hmm, I take back the zero warning.. Some of the resort areas warned their beach goers of a possible undertow. Darrell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 And of course the top story this holiday season was how irritated the Christmas travelers were at the flight delays... -Terry ----- Original Message ----- From: " Darrell " <lazlo75501@...> " @... " < > > > The tsunami originated in the Indian Ocean and hit between 6 > and 8 countries, but even those countries had zero warning. The > USA has pledged to help institute an early tidal warning system in the > Indian Ocean since the countries hit by the tsunami say they are too > poor to build one themselves. Hmm, I take back the zero warning.. > Some of the resort areas warned their beach goers of a possible > undertow. > > Darrell > > > > > > > <HTML> > <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC " -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN " > " http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd " > > <BODY> > <FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " > > Important <B>Native Nutrition</B> Addresses > <UL> > <LI>Native Nutrition on the <A > HREF= " / " >WEB</A> > <LI>Search the message <A HREF= " http://onibasu.dyndns.org/ " >ARCHIVE</A> > & mdash; <B>NEW FEATURE!</B></LI> > <LI>Change your group <A > HREF= " /join " >SETTINGS</A></\ LI> > <LI><A HREF= " mailto: " >POST</A> a > message</LI> > <LI><A > HREF= " mailto: -subscribe " >SUBSCRIBE</A> to > the list</LI> > <LI><A > HREF= " mailto: -unsubscribe " >UNSUBSCRIBE</A> > from the list</LI> > <LI>Send an <A > HREF= " mailto: -owner " >EMAIL</A> to the List > Owner & Moderators</LI> > </UL></FONT> > <PRE><FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " >List Owner: Idol > Moderators: Heidi Schuppenhauer > Wanita Sears > </FONT></PRE> > </BODY> > </HTML> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 This morning I saw the death toll could possibly climb to 60,000 as they haven't even gotten to many of the remote islands and haven't heard from them. The official reports now are around 40,000. The mangroves certainly wouldn't have stopped all of this. The quake was powerful enough to actually cause the earth to wobble in it's axis. But still the coral reefs and mangroves could have slowed down much of the very poor villages destruction. The Maldives were hit badly but not so many people killed. I don't think they know yet though as they haven't heard from many of the remote islands that might have been totally wiped out. Lynn http://www.heureka.clara.net/gaia/shrimps.htm Mangroves are one of the world's most threatened habitats. More than half the world's mangrove forests have already been destroyed. FAO attributes more than half the losses to shrimp aquaculture. Less than 1% of the remaining mangrove forests have any form of protection. Mangroves once covered more than 3/4 of the tropical coastline, it is a habitat now threatened with extinction, as too are the communities that live in and depend upon mangroves for their livelihood. Shallow coastal waters are important ecosystems, especially mangrove swamps. Mangrove swamps are some of the world's most important ecosystems, only exceeded by tropical rain forests and coral reefs. Mangrove swamps are inhabited by migratory birds, sea turtles, manatees, and dolphins. 75% of the tropic's commercial fish species spend part of their life cycles in mangrove swamps. Loss of the mangroves has ironically led to a drop in the wild population of shrimp as their nurseries are lost. Mangrove swamps act as a buffer for large waves, the impact of cyclones on the coastal regions of Bangladesh has been devastating following the large-scale destruction of mangrove swamps. In 1991, thousands of people were killed when a tsunami (large wave caused by an underwater earthquake) hit the coast in an area of Bangladesh where shrimp farms had destroyed all the mangrove swamps. In 1960, when a tsunami of similar magnitude hit the same area, there was not a single fatality. --- In , " Darrell " <lazlo75501@y...> wrote: > I'm not sure how much effect the mangroves would have had on > a 30-foot-tall wall of water traveling 500 miles per hour. Another > sad part is that those countries hit by the tsunami have NO tidal > warning system. IIRC, the news reports said it was the biggest > quake in the last 40 years. > > Did the tsunami hit the Maldives? The Maldives is the newest > secret, holiday resort getaway for many of the world celebrities. > > Darrell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 Just heard Sri Lanka is 19,000 of the 40,000. A flyover of an island of 36,000 closer to epicenter showed no signs of survivors. There are more than 20 islands and coasts affected. No reports on aftershocks and more possible tsunamis yet. Wanita -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release Date: 12/26/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 Darrell wrote: > I'm not sure how much effect the mangroves would have had on > a 30-foot-tall wall of water traveling 500 miles per hour. Another > sad part is that those countries hit by the tsunami have NO tidal > warning system. IIRC, the news reports said it was the biggest > quake in the last 40 years. I read it travels about 500 *kilometers* per hour over deep water, but when it reachs shallow water it slows to about 45 km/hr. I think if the water gets shallow fairly quickly, as it does in most places, the waves slow down fast and start to pile up, which could conceivably magnify the tidal waves. If you have a large expanse of shallow water before the coast (as in a mangrove?) this could help to dampen the tidal waves significantly since they would have time to slosh around and dissipate. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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