Re: visit to the naturopath

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--- In , Lynn Siprelle <lynn@s...>

wrote:

> I've lost 11 pounds on this " I can't eat " diet, which I don't

> recommend. I must say it's nice to be in my next-size-down

clothes,

> though...

>

> L

>

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> http://www.siprelle.com * http://www.thenewhomemaker.com

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LOL! Allright...give!

What does the " I can't eat " diet consist of?

[Guest guest]

> What does the " I can't eat " diet consist of?

Not being able to eat. That's about it!

Lynn S.

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Lynn-

>1) My thyroid is fine.

Based on what?

>2) I am very probably insulin resistant and definitely pre-diabetic and

>need to act as if I am regardless whether we continue testing.

I don't think there's any doubt.

>3) The onset of panic and anxiety attacks post-heart attack points to a

>problem with cortisol, and all of my symptoms together points to a

>strong possibility that I have an epinephrine/norepinephrine imbalance,

>possibly genetic.

Perhaps you have such an imbalance, but it's extremely unlikely that it's

genetic -- at least not in the sense it's popularly understood

nowadays. It's the latest fad to look for genetic " causes " for every

disease and condition under the sun, but it's simply not plausible that the

species could be so genetically flawed. Obviously what's really going on

is that we're very ill-adapted to the modern environment with its enormous

host of pollutants and bad foods.

>4) I am borderline anemic.

The irony is that malabsorption is actually very common among fat

people. In addition to eating iron-rich foods, I really recommend that you

read _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_.

>2) Continue taking my food-based multi (Rainbow Light Advanced

>Nutritional System), magnesium, l-carnitine, l-taurine and CLO.

Urk. Looking at RLANS, if this is the same thing you're taking

(http://www.vitacost.com/RainbowLightAdvancedNutritionalSystem) I'm afraid

you're not doing yourself any favors. It has loads of ingredients which

are quite unfriendly do your digestive tract, and the actual forms of some,

such as choline, aren't even identified. Most likely the choline is

choline bitartrate, which is crap.

>4) Start taking Methyl Cobalamin sublingually 5000 mcg once daily for

>NE/EPI balance, catecholamine metabolizing, estrogen and homocysteine

>metabolism support.

Methylcobalamin is great, but the sublinguals all have gut-damaging

ingredients like sorbitol. If you swallow enough, some will just diffuse

across your intestinal membranes even if you're not producing adequate

intrinsic factor.

>5) Start taking Actifolate.

Hmm, looks interesting, but again, bad fillers.

>6) Recommended tests: Glucose/insulin tolerance

If you're talking about the drink-lots-of-glucose-syrup test, I promise

you, it's not worth the damage to your system it'll do.

-

[Guest guest]

>> 1) My thyroid is fine.

>

> Based on what?

TSH, free T-4 and free T-3 levels. A little low, but basically not the

main thing we need to be worrying about right now was the naturopath's

feeling. He was much more concerned about stabilizing my blood sugar

problems.

>> 2) I am very probably insulin resistant and definitely pre-diabetic

>> and

>> need to act as if I am regardless whether we continue testing.

>

> I don't think there's any doubt.

Nope, in fact he was pleased I'd already taken steps in this direction.

>> strong possibility that I have an epinephrine/norepinephrine

>> imbalance,

>> possibly genetic.

>

> Perhaps you have such an imbalance, but it's extremely unlikely that

> it's

> genetic

He cited research that said that 40% of women tested show a genetic

predisposition to this imbalance (don't have the research), though I

have no doubt that its expression is probably for the reasons you cite,

--we're not living the way we were meant to.

>> 4) I am borderline anemic.

>

> The irony is that malabsorption is actually very common among fat

> people. In addition to eating iron-rich foods, I really recommend

> that you

> read _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_.

Got a copy right here, in fact. Still not sure it's what I need to

follow but I'm open.

>> 2) Continue taking my food-based multi (Rainbow Light Advanced

>> Nutritional System), magnesium, l-carnitine, l-taurine and CLO.

>

> Urk. Looking at RLANS, if this is the same thing you're taking

> (http://www.vitacost.com/RainbowLightAdvancedNutritionalSystem) I'm

> afraid

> you're not doing yourself any favors. It has loads of ingredients

> which

> are quite unfriendly do your digestive tract, and the actual forms of

> some,

> such as choline, aren't even identified. Most likely the choline is

> choline bitartrate, which is crap.

Well, all I know is I do feel better when I take it. Looking at the

bottle, you are indeed correct; it is choline bitartrate. This is bad

because...? and what ingredients that are unfriendly? I'm not

challenging, I just don't know.

> Methylcobalamin is great, but the sublinguals all have gut-damaging

> ingredients like sorbitol. If you swallow enough, some will just

> diffuse

> across your intestinal membranes even if you're not producing adequate

> intrinsic factor.

Main ingredients: methylcobalamin 1000mcg. Other ingredients: sorbitol,

mannitol, fructose, lemon flavor, citric acid, stearic acide and

magnesium stearate. Recommended alternate? I did find this:

http://www.vitacost.com/NSIB12Methylcobalamin/cas-1/CFID-56965064/

CFTOKEN-2403382

It's not sublingual, though, and he seemed to really emphasize that.

>> 5) Start taking Actifolate.

>

> Hmm, looks interesting, but again, bad fillers.

Couldn't see any fillers. Recommended alternate?

>> 6) Recommended tests: Glucose/insulin tolerance

>

> If you're talking about the drink-lots-of-glucose-syrup test, I promise

> you, it's not worth the damage to your system it'll do.

That's the one, and I don't have the six hours for one thing and for

another I don't intend to put myself through that. I've already been

through two angiograms, one while fully awake, and a chemically induced

stress test that, if it didn't actually nearly kill me, felt like it

very nearly killed me. So I'm not so much with the challenge tests. I'm

just going with the assumption that my blood sugar/insulin levels are

seriously wacked out. There's nothing about the treatment--basically

eating right--that can hurt me.

thanks, you guys, for looking at all this stuff and for being there

for me. You're one of my lifelines.

Lynn S.

------

Lynn Siprelle * web developer, writer, mama, fiber junky

http://www.siprelle.com * http://www.thenewhomemaker.com

http://www.deanspeaksforme.com * http://www.knitting911.net

[Guest guest]

Lynn,

Another suggestion is to try Cantron, it will balance out your sugar

levels and probably handle the rest of your problems as well. Do

another search on Google for it. A friend of mine was a diabetic

until he started taking Cantron, now he's back to normal. Another

friend had emphysema which Cantron took care of. It was originally

used to correct cancer but it does so much more.

Judy

--- In , Lynn Siprelle <lynn@s...>

wrote:

> >> 1) My thyroid is fine.

> >

> > Based on what?

>

> TSH, free T-4 and free T-3 levels. A little low, but basically not

the

> main thing we need to be worrying about right now was the

naturopath's

> feeling. He was much more concerned about stabilizing my blood

sugar

> problems.

>

> >> 2) I am very probably insulin resistant and definitely pre-

diabetic

> >> and

> >> need to act as if I am regardless whether we continue testing.

> >

> > I don't think there's any doubt.

>

> Nope, in fact he was pleased I'd already taken steps in this

direction.

>

> >> strong possibility that I have an epinephrine/norepinephrine

> >> imbalance,

> >> possibly genetic.

> >

> > Perhaps you have such an imbalance, but it's extremely unlikely

that

> > it's

> > genetic

>

> He cited research that said that 40% of women tested show a

genetic

> predisposition to this imbalance (don't have the research), though

I

> have no doubt that its expression is probably for the reasons you

cite,

> --we're not living the way we were meant to.

>

> >> 4) I am borderline anemic.

> >

> > The irony is that malabsorption is actually very common among fat

> > people. In addition to eating iron-rich foods, I really

recommend

> > that you

> > read _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_.

>

> Got a copy right here, in fact. Still not sure it's what I need

to

> follow but I'm open.

>

> >> 2) Continue taking my food-based multi (Rainbow Light Advanced

> >> Nutritional System), magnesium, l-carnitine, l-taurine and CLO.

> >

> > Urk. Looking at RLANS, if this is the same thing you're taking

> > (http://www.vitacost.com/RainbowLightAdvancedNutritionalSystem)

I'm

> > afraid

> > you're not doing yourself any favors. It has loads of

ingredients

> > which

> > are quite unfriendly do your digestive tract, and the actual

forms of

> > some,

> > such as choline, aren't even identified. Most likely the

choline is

> > choline bitartrate, which is crap.

>

> Well, all I know is I do feel better when I take it. Looking at

the

> bottle, you are indeed correct; it is choline bitartrate. This is

bad

> because...? and what ingredients that are unfriendly? I'm not

> challenging, I just don't know.

>

> > Methylcobalamin is great, but the sublinguals all have gut-

damaging

> > ingredients like sorbitol. If you swallow enough, some will

just

> > diffuse

> > across your intestinal membranes even if you're not producing

adequate

> > intrinsic factor.

>

> Main ingredients: methylcobalamin 1000mcg. Other ingredients:

sorbitol,

> mannitol, fructose, lemon flavor, citric acid, stearic acide and

> magnesium stearate. Recommended alternate? I did find this:

>

> http://www.vitacost.com/NSIB12Methylcobalamin/cas-1/CFID-56965064/

> CFTOKEN-2403382

>

> It's not sublingual, though, and he seemed to really emphasize

that.

>

> >> 5) Start taking Actifolate.

> >

> > Hmm, looks interesting, but again, bad fillers.

>

> Couldn't see any fillers. Recommended alternate?

>

> >> 6) Recommended tests: Glucose/insulin tolerance

> >

> > If you're talking about the drink-lots-of-glucose-syrup test, I

promise

> > you, it's not worth the damage to your system it'll do.

>

> That's the one, and I don't have the six hours for one thing and

for

> another I don't intend to put myself through that. I've already

been

> through two angiograms, one while fully awake, and a chemically

induced

> stress test that, if it didn't actually nearly kill me, felt like

it

> very nearly killed me. So I'm not so much with the challenge

tests. I'm

> just going with the assumption that my blood sugar/insulin levels

are

> seriously wacked out. There's nothing about the treatment--

basically

> eating right--that can hurt me.

>

> thanks, you guys, for looking at all this stuff and for being

there

> for me. You're one of my lifelines.

>

> Lynn S.

>

> ------

> Lynn Siprelle * web developer, writer, mama, fiber junky

> http://www.siprelle.com * http://www.thenewhomemaker.com

> http://www.deanspeaksforme.com * http://www.knitting911.net

[Guest guest]

Lynn-

>TSH, free T-4 and free T-3 levels. A little low, but basically not the

>main thing we need to be worrying about right now was the naturopath's

>feeling. He was much more concerned about stabilizing my blood sugar

>problems.

TSH is completely useless. Free T4 and T3 levels are marginally less

useless at best. I really recommend you check out Dr. Lowe's entire site,

but these two specific pages are most directly relevant:

http://www.drlowe.com/QandA/askdrlowe/thytesting.htm

http://www.drlowe.com/QandA/askdrlowe/dxthyrd.htm

>Got a copy right here, in fact. Still not sure it's what I need to

>follow but I'm open.

BTVC isn't the whole story. It says little about macronutrient ratios,

nothing about meal timing, little about nutrition. Its focus is bowel

disease. But integrating the SCD with other approaches will maximize your

results.

>Well, all I know is I do feel better when I take it.

Some of the ingredients are good, but it's awfully hard to find a multi

which doesn't have serious drawbacks.

> Looking at the

>bottle, you are indeed correct; it is choline bitartrate. This is bad

>because...?

Poor absorption, impairs digestion... it's just a crummy

form. Phosphatidyl choline is good, alpha-gpc choline is great,

citicholine is good for somewhat different reasons, and of course

choline-rich foods are excellent.

> and what ingredients that are unfriendly? I'm not

>challenging, I just don't know.

The sea vegetable complex, for example, is not good for the gut.

>It's not sublingual, though, and he seemed to really emphasize that.

I guess you could try dumping the contents of a Pure Encapsulations

methylcobalamin capsule under your tongue...

>Couldn't see any fillers. Recommended alternate?

Folirinse, though it doesn't have the metabolites, which I haven't looked

into. Maybe they're great, maybe they're not.

According to http://www.nutritionalconcepts.com/supplements/actifolate.htm

the ingredients are:

>>Ingredients: Folic Acid, 5-Formyl Tertahydrofolate, and L-5-methyl

>>tetrahydrofolate, microsrystalline cellulose, stearic acid, silica, and

>>modified cellulose coating.

>thanks, you guys, for looking at all this stuff and for being there

>for me. You're one of my lifelines.

Always happy to help. I've gone through all sorts of miseries myself, so

I'd rather spare other people from them if I can.

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[Guest guest]

My allopath's office called me this morning and asked me to come in to

talk about my glucose test. I was surprised; usually if you don't hear

from them day of, they're not concerned.

His message was that given family and personal history I was going to

get diabetes at some point before I died, but that I didn't have it

now. The trick was going to be keeping it at bay as long as possible,

he was glad to hear I was already starting to manage this myself, and

said all of the steps I was taking were positive and reasonable. He

said it was entirely possible to keep it from becoming a full blown

problem until I was quite old. (I question whether it ever has to

happen but this is what he told me.)

He gave me a scrip for a glucose meter if I wanted to get one (left it

up to me) and said the best way to take my levels was to do it four

times a day once a week at this point. He also asked me to

consider--just consider--taking a glucophage. After reading the side

effects I decided that I'm not going to. Lactic acidosis? That's what

happens when I get an anxiety attack and I'm not going to put myself

through that chemically. It'd be nice to take something that makes you

lose weight but at what cost.

I love my dr because he talks to me at a pretty high level, never

condescends, listens to me, and only once in more than 15 years scared

me into taking a medication--the beta blocker that brought on my heart

attack 3 years ago--that " larned " both of us. Hard lesson: No matter

how much you trust and love a health care provider, trust your gut and

do your research.

Lynn S.

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Lynn Siprelle * web developer, writer, mama, fiber junky

http://www.siprelle.com * http://www.thenewhomemaker.com

http://www.deanspeaksforme.com * http://www.knitting911.net

[Guest guest]

--- In , Lynn Siprelle <lynn@s...>

wrote:

> His message was that given family and personal history I was going to

> get diabetes at some point before I died, but that I didn't have it

> now. The trick was going to be keeping it at bay as long as possible,

> he was glad to hear I was already starting to manage this myself, and

> said all of the steps I was taking were positive and reasonable. He

> said it was entirely possible to keep it from becoming a full blown

> problem until I was quite old. (I question whether it ever has to

> happen but this is what he told me.)

I remember my dad came home one day when I was a teenager and told us

that his blood sugar had been measured at over 300 and he had a

tendency toward diabetes.

He changed the way he ate--more HUGE salads was the most noticeable

thing--and fewer HUGE bowls of ice milk--and never really developed

diabetes until he had had his brain surgery about 25 years later and

ended up in a nursing home. He died about 6-1/2 weeks after his

surgery. I understand that it was the many meds he was taking that

brought on the diabetes finally, and made it necessary for him to take

insulin.

I remember that he had seemed to be easy to anger before he learned

about his diabetic tendency. Perhaps the high blood sugar was what

caused that. He seemed more easygoing once he got it under control

using diet.