RE: POLITICS Atheism a Religion? (was White Missionaries' )

[Guest guest]

From here:

http://www.southampton.liunet.edu/academic/pau/course/webpre.htm

came this:

The prefixes " a " and " an " = " not " or " without " .

As in " apolitical " = without interest in politics.

As in " anemia " = the condition (disease) of not having enough red blood

cells.

Then, according to that logic, " atheism " would technically mean " no belief

in god " / " without a belief in god " / " not having enough belief in god " . To

further support this position, no other examples of words that mean " a firm

disbelief in the existence of_____ " or " a firm belief in the non-existence

of _____ " have been provided. ( " Should not exist " and " does not exist " are

two very different things.)

-Mark

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The active misidentification of evil

is the worst kind of evil.

-MRN

Re: POLITICS Atheism a Religion? (was White Missionaries' )

In a message dated 12/16/04 9:43:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,

hl@...

writes:

> Actually guys, I do know about the roots of " a " here. It comes from

> Sanskrit of the Indus valley. For example, himsa means violence and

> ahimsa means nonviolence in Sanskrit. The use of the word is much like

> a minus sign in front of a number or variable. It means " non " *AS A

> PREFIX* and cannot be switched in the middle of a word, as has

> done above. Only his first version is close. Non belief in God is

> better still. Atheism is " non-theism " . Y'all can haggle over those

> theism roots, but Sanskrit is a refined, precise language. The " a " in

> front means the non (or negative of), because in some contexts, " absence

> of " makes no sense.

____

You claim it is from Sanskrit, yet all the dictionaries and medical

terminology textbooks claim it from Greek and claim it means " absence of, "

which is its

meaning in medical terminology. Perhaps the Greek root is derived from the

Sanskrit, but that doesn't make the English word hold true to the Sanksrit

usage. According to the dictionary definition Mark cited, the Greek root

" atheos "

or godless is a root of the word (and the definition is in accord with what

I've said rather than Mark).

Besides that, I've already cited a comparable word using the same two roots,

a/an, and ism. Anarchism is not the non-belief in government, but the

belief

that government should not exist.

Chris

____

[Guest guest]

According to most sources I've seen, " a " and " an " are interchangeable.

It looks like the modern definition of " atheist " (a firm denial of the

existence of god) is technically wrong, but IS the definition of

" antitheist " .

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The active misidentification of evil

is the worst kind of evil.

-MRN

Re: POLITICS Atheism a Religion? (was White Missionaries' )

Chris-

>Besides that, I've already cited a comparable word using the same two

roots,

>a/an, and ism. Anarchism is not the non-belief in government, but the

belief

>that government should not exist.

Sorry, but the roots of anarchy don't fit. It's an-archy, not a-narchy.

-

[Guest guest]

>

> In a message dated 12/17/04 5:08:42 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> colowe@... writes:

>

> > According to most sources I've seen, " a " and " an " are interchangeable.

> >

> > It looks like the modern definition of " atheist " (a firm denial of the

> > existence of god) is technically wrong, but IS the definition of

> > " antitheist " .

> ____

>

> It would seem that using your model, and the one agrees to, where

> " atheism " breaks down into a-theism, that antitheist would break down into

> anti-theist. So an antitheist would be someone who opposes theists, people

who

> believe

> in God.

>

This would all be so much simpler if we could all just agree that you are right

about everything.

>

> In a message dated 12/17/04 5:08:42 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> colowe@... writes:

>

> > According to most sources I've seen, " a " and " an " are interchangeable.

> >

> > It looks like the modern definition of " atheist " (a firm denial of the

> > existence of god) is technically wrong, but IS the definition of

> > " antitheist " .

> ____

>

> It would seem that using your model, and the one agrees to, where

> " atheism " breaks down into a-theism, that antitheist would break down into

> anti-theist. So an antitheist would be someone who opposes theists, people

who

> believe

> in God.

>

> Chris

>

> ____

>

> " What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion? It is a

> heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings, birds, and

> animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the sight of

them

> make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense compassion,

> which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to bear the sight

of

> the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature. Thus they pray

> ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for enemies of the truth, and for

> those

> who do them wrong. "

>

> --Saint Isaac the Syrian

>

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