Re: Vegetarianism and Meat-eating

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On 7/13/05, José Barbosa <jcmbarbosa52@...> wrote:

> I admit that it may be difficult for some people to meet all their

> requirements for protein, essential fatty acids, iron, B12, D3, etc,

> if they rely only upon eggs and dairy. What if they have intolerance

> to these foods? But I think that, at least in theory, ovo-lacto-

> vegetarianism is feasible and even healthy, especially if you are

> able to diversify your diet and not give cereals the main role.

I agree. I think *some* people can manage on such a diet very well.

The other thing to consider though is that health-depletion or

health-regeneration takes place over generations. My grandparents are

much healthier now than I would be in, say, 5 years if I ate like

them. When they were young, margarine still hadn't been invented,

milk wasn't paseteurized, liver and cod liver oil were still en vogue.

So somewhere in the middle of having 8 kids before my mom popped out

they switched to margarine, milk was pasteurized, cod liver oil went

out of style, etc. My mom's health was horrible and she's had

continuous dental work throughout her life and many root canals. I

was conceived at a party early 1981, probably not in the best of

physiological conditions, in the third generation of nutritional

dereliction. I was allergic to most things and had bad eczema. After

being nursed a little, it was found that I couldn't tolerate ANY kind

of milk or formula (that occurred to my mom to try, anyway), and this

extended to plant milks such as almond milk as well, so for a while I

was on a diet exclusively of APPLE JUICE and supplements! Which...

obviously contains NOTHING for a growing infant to utilize for growth

and good health.

When I was older some of my allergies went away (like to fruits and

vegetables, etc). But I was allergic to milk and eggs. All of that

is on TOP of all the NORMAL problems with the standard modern diet.

So for ME, or someone else who's a third-generation nutritional

derelict like me, an " acceptable " diet is just... not acceptable. I

will need a super-optimal diet to achieve the type of health that I

can achieve... which will probably always be less than optimal, no

matter what I do.

So I would say that someone already in good health, and satisfying the

qualifications you presented, could do vegetarianism successfully.

> At first glance I shouldn't be saying this on this list, since most

> members (if not all) advocate meat-eating or recognize the vital

> importance of meat-eating, but to judge from those lines by WP, what

> I am saying is not absurd. Is it?

I don't think you should feel like you shouldn't say what you want to

say here. Yes, the group is generally pro-meat and anti-vegetarian,

but you clearly share as much of a perspective with the group as any

other given individual does. There is a common denominator that you

fit into. But to have no familiarity with Price, to disagree on

basically every statement on the introduction page to the group, and

to come here just to argue would not be acceptable in my opinion (not

that I determine what is acceptable.)

Chris