Guest guest Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 The commonest antibiotics are made from fungal toxins (mycotoxins). When you take a wide spectrum antibiotic and it kills off most, if not all, your intestinal flora, candida albicans is the quickest one to repopulate your system. From what Doug Kaufmann says, doctors are so unaccustomed to looking for fungal infections that they often miss them as the cause of lots of ailments. So they simply throw more powerful antibiotics (more mycotoxins) at a problem, which can end up making the problem worse. The Mayo Clinic released a report not many years ago that said they found (IIRC) over 90% of people with chronic sinusitis had an infection with a particular fungus in their sinuses. Since what's in the sinuses often ends up in the ears, I wouldn't be surprised if there was a yeast/mold/fungus problem with your son's ears. Kaufmann's site is http://www.knowthecause.com . Taking antifungal measures might make the difference. If it were me, I would strictly limit starch and sugar, increase the use of animal fat and coconut oil and protein, use fresh or lactofermented fruits and veggies and bone broth, and add probiotic foods and/or supplements and cod liver oil. Also limit exposure to pesticides and herbicides, since they deplete vitamin A, which messes up your immune system. I'm wary of taking lots of isolated supplements and prefer to use food to stay healthy, but lack of zinc is associated with fungal infections. I would AVOID SOY and fluoride because they induce zinc deficiency. If you've been on this list long, this stuff sounds pretty familiar. ;-) BTW, research has been done that shows that children who take cod liver oil don't get earaches. The particular research project that I read about was simply trying to minimize the number and length of earaches in children, but the subjects who were taking cod liver oil just didn't get any. Because of that, I started taking it in the spring of 2003. I was able to completely stop taking antihistamines and decongestants (and cough drops and painkillers) because the cod liver oil took care of the problem! It took care of the postnasal drip, sore throat, and chronic cough. I took it every day for over a year, but I don't take it every day now. We just take it when we get a tickle in our throats or have a little sniffle. --- In , carli tygart <carlijot@g...> wrote: > sorry if this is a dupe...I thought I sent it already but it wasn't in sent > mail.. > > I read that repeated ear infections followed by repeated courses of > antibiotics often leads to an overgrowth of yeast. Can anyone elaborate on > this? Is the yeast overgrowth something I should be concerned with, esp. for > my older son who has had the surgeries? The doctors cultured his ears I > don't even know how many times (they were smelly and constantly oozing > greenish brown goo before and between surgeries) and they could never get > anything to grow. After the first most invasive mastoidectomy, they even had > an infectious disease doctor look at him. They ended up giving him an adult > strength super antibiotic that I had to administer through a PIC line at > home for 2 weeks. Could this have had anything to do with yeast or would > that have shown in a culture? > Carli > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 On 9/13/05, Idol <Idol@...> wrote: > My own (unconfirmed) experience with my corneal infection seems to fit. On > my first visit, my ophthalmologist gave me antibiotic drops for my eye. At > the very least, the drops did nothing, but really they seemed to make the > infection much worse. Between that and the fact that all my problems > seemed to stem from exposure to some really nasty mold last month, the > logical inference seemed to me to be that my infection was fungal in > nature, but the doctor said no, he'd never ever seen a fungal eye infection > in all his years of practice, so he just gave me a different > antibiotic. This one worked -- but it turns out it that even though it's > closely related to the first antibiotic, it also has significant antifungal > activity. Did he also add to that, " And in all the years of my practice, I've been so busy that I missed out on the advent of the internet, so I've never really gotten the chance to do a Google or a Medline search " ? > Of course without proper (expensive) testing I'll never know for sure, but > the fungal explanation seems awfully likely to me. Patient: Doctor, lots of fungi just came in contact with my eye, and now my eye has an infection. Doctor: It must be an unrelated bacterial infection. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 On 9/13/05, Idol <Idol@...> wrote: > No, but since he works seven days a week, it wouldn't actually surprise me > if he's not up on the internet and related modern tools. That's really a shame. It's awful that a lot of honest practitioners simply can't keep up with the research and are left at the mercy at the most aggressive purveyors of information. > >Patient: Doctor, lots of fungi just came in contact with my eye, and > >now my eye has an infection. > > > >Doctor: It must be an unrelated bacterial infection. > > That's about the size of it. He's a very nice guy, so I don't really want > to beat up on him -- and for all I know he knowingly chose drops the second > time around which have antifungal activity -- but he acted like he was > completely confident that it couldn't possibly have been a fungal > infection. I was browsing for a different purpose today and saw information about fungal eye infections before this came up. So it can definitely happen. Chris -- Statin Drugs Kill Your Brain And Cause Transient Global Amnesia: http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/Statin-Drug-Side-Effects.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 I agree with your thoughts. Besides all this, Kaufmann says there *are* incidences of fungal infections actually causing blindness. --- In , Idol <Idol@c...> wrote: > - > > > From what Doug Kaufmann says, doctors are so unaccustomed to looking > >for fungal infections that they often miss them as the cause of lots > >of ailments. So they simply throw more powerful antibiotics (more > >mycotoxins) at a problem, which can end up making the problem worse. > > My own (unconfirmed) experience with my corneal infection seems to fit. On > my first visit, my ophthalmologist gave me antibiotic drops for my eye. At > the very least, the drops did nothing, but really they seemed to make the > infection much worse. Between that and the fact that all my problems > seemed to stem from exposure to some really nasty mold last month, the > logical inference seemed to me to be that my infection was fungal in > nature, but the doctor said no, he'd never ever seen a fungal eye infection > in all his years of practice, so he just gave me a different > antibiotic. This one worked -- but it turns out it that even though it's > closely related to the first antibiotic, it also has significant antifungal > activity. > > Of course without proper (expensive) testing I'll never know for sure, but > the fungal explanation seems awfully likely to me. > > > > - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Here's a specific comment from a private note: " Dr. C.C. Kibbler devotes an entire chapter to FUNGAL DISEASE IN OPTHALMOLOGY....his opening sentence? 'Microbial keratitis is a severe, sight threatening infection of the corneal stroma. In the Western world it is most commonly due to bacteria, but fungal infections can occur.' It is highly likely that these 'bacteria infections' are thought cured by a round or two of anitbiotics which knocks the fungus back into dormancy. " > > - > > > > > From what Doug Kaufmann says, doctors are so unaccustomed to > looking > > >for fungal infections that they often miss them as the cause of > lots > > >of ailments. So they simply throw more powerful antibiotics (more > > >mycotoxins) at a problem, which can end up making the problem > worse. > > > > My own (unconfirmed) experience with my corneal infection seems to > fit. On > > my first visit, my ophthalmologist gave me antibiotic drops for my > eye. At > > the very least, the drops did nothing, but really they seemed to > make the > > infection much worse. Between that and the fact that all my > problems > > seemed to stem from exposure to some really nasty mold last month, > the > > logical inference seemed to me to be that my infection was fungal > in > > nature, but the doctor said no, he'd never ever seen a fungal eye > infection > > in all his years of practice, so he just gave me a different > > antibiotic. This one worked -- but it turns out it that even > though it's > > closely related to the first antibiotic, it also has significant > antifungal > > activity. > > > > Of course without proper (expensive) testing I'll never know for > sure, but > > the fungal explanation seems awfully likely to me. > > > > > > > > - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 On 9/13/05, <toyotaokiec@...> wrote: > I agree with your thoughts. > > Besides all this, Kaufmann says there *are* incidences of fungal > infections actually causing blindness. Of course... fungal infections can be fatal! Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2005 Report Share Posted September 14, 2005 I'll add my own experience: About five years ago when I was in college, I was on long-term minocycline/doxycycline, which are antibiotics commonly prescribed by physicians and dermatologists to combat persistent acne. (In fact, I believe acne is the number-one indication for prescription of these antibiotics today!) I recall that my moderate acne got somewhat better after I started taking antibiotics in high school, but after a few months, it started to gradually return to the original level. The P. acnes no doubt had become resistant to the medicine. Meanwhile, my digestive system was somewhat screwed up. It took a little while, first to notice the symptoms and then to attribute them to the antibiotic, but it became clear that my intestinal bacteria were hurting. Nothing intolerable, but nonetheless unpleasant. For example, while out jogging one day, I suddenly had to take a sh!t so badly that I was forced to squat in some underbrush in a park, since I would have never made it home in time (and I think one guy say me, LOL). It struck me as really weird; that kind of thing would never have happened to me before antibiotics (or since). Another time I actually ended up crapping in my underpants while running, which was quiet embarrasing as a 17- or 18-year-old; thankfully I was able to head straight home and no one found out. Anyway, in college I developed esophagitis—basically a yeast infection in my throat. I went to the college health center and they gave me some kind of anti-fungal, I believe, and also might have mentioned that they'd had others on long-term antibiotics with similar problems (although they shrugged it off, of course, " oh yeah, that's just one of those things that happens " ). The symptoms had started out as a tightness in my throat when swallowing, and quickly got worse to where it really hurt to eat. After I finished the course of anti-fungal medication, I was better for a few weeks or months and then I remember the pain when swallowing gradually returning. It was around then that four became too compelling an answer to the equation two plus two, and I realized that there must be a causal relation between antibiotics and this yeast overgrowth. I stopped antibiotics and slowly the pain got better until it disappeared. That's the best I can remember it, as it was about five years ago. Acne, incidentally, is the problem that ultimately led me to pursue a career in a nutrition-related field, and to this group. It's pretty much gone on my current WAPF diet and I have no other health problems whatsoever, so I have much to be thankful for. Tom ____________ Faith and knowledge are related as the two scales of balance; when the one goes up, the other goes down. . . . The power of religious dogma, when inculcated early, is such as to stifle conscience, compassion, and finally every feeling of humanity. . . . For, as you know, religions are like glow worms; they shine only when it's dark. A certain amount of ignorance is the condition of all religions, the element in which alone they can exist. -- Arthur Schopenhauer, Parerga and Paralipomena (1851) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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