Guest guest Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 Well, I have yet another question for you all, and this one gets a bit more personal. I think I have stuggled with some form of constipation all of my life, and while it has gotten a *bit* better, I just can't figure it out. The only time I remember having two full BMs a day was when I was a fruitarian, but then of course I had many other problems to boot. Recently, I took a liver tea each night that was similar to one that Katja had suggested and was having two BMs a day then, too (I think dandelion is supposed to be a laxative?). So here I am, having cycled out the liver tea and having BMs maybe every other day unassisted. Sometimes those " emergen-c " packets help get things moving, sometimes not. Most days I drink lots of water and herbal tea, kefir, raw egg yolks, a couple of pieces of fruit, maybe a bite of bread, raw butter, sauerkraut, salads, CLO, olive oil, VCO, rare meats, and veggies. Adding fats seems to aggravate the constipation, and yet they help so many other imbalances in my body. How confusing! Any thoughts, suggestions, jokes? Thanks, a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 07:26:49 -0000, shawnalendzion <recon@...> wrote: > > I think I have stuggled with some form of constipation all of my life, > and while it has gotten a *bit* better, I just can't figure it out. > The only time I remember having two full BMs a day was when I was a > fruitarian, but then of course I had many other problems to boot. > Recently, I took a liver tea each night that was similar to one that > Katja had suggested and was having two BMs a day then, too (I think > dandelion is supposed to be a laxative?). > > So here I am, having cycled out the liver tea and having BMs maybe > every other day unassisted. Sometimes those " emergen-c " packets help > get things moving, sometimes not. Hi a, I've had a bit of the same trouble off and on. Is there a reason you discontinued the liver tea? From what I understand, congested livers can cause constipation, so that may be a sign that you need some more liver detoxing and that the liver tea was doing its job. Another thing, I know that grains are rather taboo to lots of people on this list, but I've found that after adding them back into my diet I am much more regular. I also feel lots better in other ways, also. I've started making a 100% whole wheat honey bread and have been eating some of that almost every day. Each one of us is different, and what's bad for one may not be for another. So it takes some experiementation to find what works for you. If it were me, though, and the liver tea was working, I'd continue with it. But perhaps you went off of it for other reasons? Fern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 > I've had a bit of the same trouble off and on. Is there a reason you > discontinued the liver tea? From what I understand, congested livers > can cause constipation, so that may be a sign that you need some more > liver detoxing and that the liver tea was doing its job. Well, I was taking it for a couple of months and thought it was a good idea to take a break from herbs like that so that they remain effective. I have just always heard that is a good idea. I wonder how long I would have to take it for it to get me regular again... > > Another thing, I know that grains are rather taboo to lots of people > on this list, but I've found that after adding them back into my diet > I am much more regular. I also feel lots better in other ways, also. > I've started making a 100% whole wheat honey bread and have been > eating some of that almost every day. You know, I think that I noticed that grains helped me a bit, too. But I think they also made me hungrier throughout the day. Hmmm. However, that might be a good thing for me lately as I have found that my appetite has decreased quite a bit. I am even trying to exercise more to work it up which is working a bit. It just feels like everything has shut down in a sense. No appetite, no BMs. > > Each one of us is different, and what's bad for one may not be for > another. So it takes some experiementation to find what works for you. > If it were me, though, and the liver tea was working, I'd continue > with it. But perhaps you went off of it for other reasons? I might cycle into it again soon. I know that my liver is congested. I have even done a few of those olive oil flushes and have passed almost a thousand stones. Thanks so much for the input, Fern! Blessings, a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 Ever try a Liver Flush?? www.toolsforhealing.com- probably same premise as Liver Tea, just more dramatic results. EVERYONE has a congested liver full of stones. I am thinking this is in part due to eating the wrong kind of fats (cooked) or not enough fats. You need these fats to make the right composition for bile. I have done a number of these flushes. I started out with pea sized stones, and worked my way up to large marbles, and now I am pretty much clear at this point. The fact that these were gall/liver stones was confirmed a clinical nurse at work. Her head almost blew off , she almost fell down when she asked me " You got those out yourself??? " She had been an OR nurse , and had only seen them in surgery. You know you are getting good bile flow when sometimes your poops float. They float because of the cholesterol content from yoour bile. If your poops never ever float you may have a problem. If you do the recipe on tools for healing make sure you take 4 capsules 500 MG of L-ornithine with the Olive oil/grapefruit juice, or you will end up power puking at 3am. It is another vitally important piece in the health puzzle to make sure the pathways are clear from your liver out to your intestines. You do not want any blockages here, because you don't want toxins accumulating in your liver. I don't care how you do,it. Its just that with the flush it is easy to track your progress, because you can see the stones, and what size etc. When you get down to no stones or very few small ones you are done. They recommend after the initial series of flushings that you do it 2 times a year for maintenance. Re: Another poop thread On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 07:26:49 -0000, shawnalendzion <recon@...> wrote: > > I think I have stuggled with some form of constipation all of my life, > and while it has gotten a *bit* better, I just can't figure it out. > The only time I remember having two full BMs a day was when I was a > fruitarian, but then of course I had many other problems to boot. > Recently, I took a liver tea each night that was similar to one that > Katja had suggested and was having two BMs a day then, too (I think > dandelion is supposed to be a laxative?). > > So here I am, having cycled out the liver tea and having BMs maybe > every other day unassisted. Sometimes those " emergen-c " packets help > get things moving, sometimes not. Hi a, I've had a bit of the same trouble off and on. Is there a reason you discontinued the liver tea? From what I understand, congested livers can cause constipation, so that may be a sign that you need some more liver detoxing and that the liver tea was doing its job. Another thing, I know that grains are rather taboo to lots of people on this list, but I've found that after adding them back into my diet I am much more regular. I also feel lots better in other ways, also. I've started making a 100% whole wheat honey bread and have been eating some of that almost every day. Each one of us is different, and what's bad for one may not be for another. So it takes some experiementation to find what works for you. If it were me, though, and the liver tea was working, I'd continue with it. But perhaps you went off of it for other reasons? Fern <HTML> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC " -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN " " http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd " > <BODY> <FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " > Important <B>Native Nutrition</B> Addresses <UL> <LI>Native Nutrition on the <A HREF= " / " >WEB</A> <LI>Search the message <A HREF= " http://onibasu.dyndns.org/ " >ARCHIVE</A> & mdash; <B>NEW FEATURE!</B></LI> <LI>Change your group <A HREF= " /join " >SETTINGS</A></\ LI> <LI><A HREF= " mailto: " >POST</A> a message</LI> <LI><A HREF= " mailto: -subscribe " >SUBSCRIBE</A> to the list</LI> <LI><A HREF= " mailto: -unsubscribe " >UNSUBSCRIBE</A> from the list</LI> <LI>Send an <A HREF= " mailto: -owner " >EMAIL</A> to the List Owner & Moderators</LI> </UL></FONT> <PRE><FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " >List Owner: Idol Moderators: Heidi Schuppenhauer Wanita Sears </FONT></PRE> </BODY> </HTML> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 > Ever try a Liver Flush?? www.toolsforhealing.com- probably same premise as Liver Tea, just more dramatic results. I have actually done four liver flushes, all of which were very successful. I just finished one up a couple of weeks ago. I am taking a bit of a break for the holidays and then will start up again in January or February. >EVERYONE has a congested liver full of stones. I am thinking this is in part due to eating the wrong kind of fats (cooked) or not enough fats. For me, it is also due to the fact that I took a lot of antibiotics from childhood to the age of 20 or so. I am 27 now. >You need these fats to make the right composition for bile. I have done a number of these flushes. Have you noticed a change in your bowels from doing these? >If you do the recipe on tools for healing make sure you take 4 capsules 500 MG of L-ornithine with the Olive oil/grapefruit juice, or you will end up power puking at 3am. Ah, I was wondering why the Ornithine was necessary. > It is another vitally important piece in the health puzzle to make sure the pathways are clear from your liver out to your intestines. Yep, I do a colonic after every flush! How many flushes have you done? ~a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 Yes, I too took alot of antibiotics, asthma medications, was a heavy drinker for a number of years, and I am 30 now. I never had elimination problems, but now I notice that my poops sometimes float, and I feel really good. All this stuff lurking in your body really weighs you down, especially the mind. This together with some other things I have been doing are slowly regenerating me. I started out on inhalers 24 hours a day, near sightedness to the tune of -5.25 and -5.5 and depression. I am happy to say I am only taking one inhaler when I spend an extended amount of time with Cats - and maybe other animals. ( I am exposed to Cats the most.Everyone I know has one.) I can now run and vigorously exercise with no medication. I no longer have depression, and my eyesight has improved to about -4.25 in both eyes, but my vision fluctuates. I recently started picking up on eating more raw fats, especially with the proper omega 3 balance. I have done alot of cleansing- Juice fasting and the like. But I believe all my symptoms are a lack of the propper fats for my brain, eyes and lungs. These symptoms are my body screaming out for some propper lubrication .All three organs need these fats especially (PC) found in eggs and milk butter. I just ate my first coconut last night with some unheated honey. MMMM good ! I did flushes for about two years. I marked them down, I believe it was around 12 or 13 flushes. At first I did them every two weeks, but I think the reduction in back pressure makes them not able to collect as fast in the gall bladder. So I moved to once a month when I wasn't seeing so many stones. That was the trick. So I did once a month, and now I might do one every three months or six, just to make sure everything is clear. Re: Another poop thread > Ever try a Liver Flush?? www.toolsforhealing.com- probably same premise as Liver Tea, just more dramatic results. I have actually done four liver flushes, all of which were very successful. I just finished one up a couple of weeks ago. I am taking a bit of a break for the holidays and then will start up again in January or February. >EVERYONE has a congested liver full of stones. I am thinking this is in part due to eating the wrong kind of fats (cooked) or not enough fats. For me, it is also due to the fact that I took a lot of antibiotics from childhood to the age of 20 or so. I am 27 now. >You need these fats to make the right composition for bile. I have done a number of these flushes. Have you noticed a change in your bowels from doing these? >If you do the recipe on tools for healing make sure you take 4 capsules 500 MG of L-ornithine with the Olive oil/grapefruit juice, or you will end up power puking at 3am. Ah, I was wondering why the Ornithine was necessary. > It is another vitally important piece in the health puzzle to make sure the pathways are clear from your liver out to your intestines. Yep, I do a colonic after every flush! How many flushes have you done? ~a <HTML> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC " -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN " " http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd " > <BODY> <FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " > Important <B>Native Nutrition</B> Addresses <UL> <LI>Native Nutrition on the <A HREF= " / " >WEB</A> <LI>Search the message <A HREF= " http://onibasu.dyndns.org/ " >ARCHIVE</A> & mdash; <B>NEW FEATURE!</B></LI> <LI>Change your group <A HREF= " /join " >SETTINGS</A></\ LI> <LI><A HREF= " mailto: " >POST</A> a message</LI> <LI><A HREF= " mailto: -subscribe " >SUBSCRIBE</A> to the list</LI> <LI><A HREF= " mailto: -unsubscribe " >UNSUBSCRIBE</A> from the list</LI> <LI>Send an <A HREF= " mailto: -owner " >EMAIL</A> to the List Owner & Moderators</LI> </UL></FONT> <PRE><FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " >List Owner: Idol Moderators: Heidi Schuppenhauer Wanita Sears </FONT></PRE> </BODY> </HTML> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 Floating poops can be a sign of inability to absorb fat Re: Another poop thread > > > > >> Ever try a Liver Flush?? www.toolsforhealing.com- probably same > premise as Liver Tea, just more dramatic results. > > I have actually done four liver flushes, all of which were very > successful. I just finished one up a couple of weeks ago. I am > taking a bit of a break for the holidays and then will start up again > in January or February. > >>EVERYONE has a congested liver full of stones. I am thinking this is > in part due to eating the wrong kind of fats (cooked) or not enough fats. > > For me, it is also due to the fact that I took a lot of antibiotics > from childhood to the age of 20 or so. I am 27 now. > >>You need these fats to make the right composition for bile. I have > done a number of these flushes. > > Have you noticed a change in your bowels from doing these? > >>If you do the recipe on tools for healing make sure you take 4 > capsules 500 MG of L-ornithine with the Olive oil/grapefruit juice, > or you will end up power puking at 3am. > > Ah, I was wondering why the Ornithine was necessary. > >> It is another vitally important piece in the health puzzle to make > sure the pathways are clear from your liver out to your intestines. > > Yep, I do a colonic after every flush! > > How many flushes have you done? > > ~a > > > > > > > <HTML> > <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC " -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN " > " http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd " > > <BODY> > <FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " > > Important <B>Native Nutrition</B> Addresses > <UL> > <LI>Native Nutrition on the <A > HREF= " / " >WEB</A> > <LI>Search the message <A HREF= " http://onibasu.dyndns.org/ " >ARCHIVE</A> > & mdash; <B>NEW FEATURE!</B></LI> > <LI>Change your group <A > HREF= " /join " >SETTINGS</A></\ LI> > <LI><A HREF= " mailto: " >POST</A> a > message</LI> > <LI><A > HREF= " mailto: -subscribe " >SUBSCRIBE</A> to > the list</LI> > <LI><A > HREF= " mailto: -unsubscribe " >UNSUBSCRIBE</A> > from the list</LI> > <LI>Send an <A > HREF= " mailto: -owner " >EMAIL</A> to the List > Owner & Moderators</LI> > </UL></FONT> > <PRE><FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " >List Owner: Idol > Moderators: Heidi Schuppenhauer > Wanita Sears > </FONT></PRE> > </BODY> > </HTML> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 true, but the question is if I ate a large quantity of balanced omega 3/6 Raw fats. How much can be absorbed by my body at one time.?? If they are bad fats I am guessing they would be absorbable at the same rate?? Or would my body just try to pass them out if it was getting enough good fats. Does the body say bad fats are better than no fats?? Yes I do have cellulite, but how much was put there by improper blood sugar levels (hence resulting in insulin overproduction, stored fat. ) and how much deposited by fats bad fats absorbed ?? Many questions on this. Maybe a poop float test is not a great indicator. I know that liver/gallstones float. Before I started flushing my liver I never saw a poop float, ever. Now I do, but there are alot of variables here. So I guess poop float is a bad diagnostic tool. I guess the better advice would be to do a flush and see if stones come out. Re: Another poop thread > > > > >> Ever try a Liver Flush?? www.toolsforhealing.com- probably same > premise as Liver Tea, just more dramatic results. > > I have actually done four liver flushes, all of which were very > successful. I just finished one up a couple of weeks ago. I am > taking a bit of a break for the holidays and then will start up again > in January or February. > >>EVERYONE has a congested liver full of stones. I am thinking this is > in part due to eating the wrong kind of fats (cooked) or not enough fats. > > For me, it is also due to the fact that I took a lot of antibiotics > from childhood to the age of 20 or so. I am 27 now. > >>You need these fats to make the right composition for bile. I have > done a number of these flushes. > > Have you noticed a change in your bowels from doing these? > >>If you do the recipe on tools for healing make sure you take 4 > capsules 500 MG of L-ornithine with the Olive oil/grapefruit juice, > or you will end up power puking at 3am. > > Ah, I was wondering why the Ornithine was necessary. > >> It is another vitally important piece in the health puzzle to make > sure the pathways are clear from your liver out to your intestines. > > Yep, I do a colonic after every flush! > > How many flushes have you done? > > ~a > > > > > > > <HTML> > <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC " -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN " > " http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd " > > <BODY> > <FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " > > Important <B>Native Nutrition</B> Addresses > <UL> > <LI>Native Nutrition on the <A > HREF= " / " >WEB</A> > <LI>Search the message <A HREF= " http://onibasu.dyndns.org/ " >ARCHIVE</A> > & mdash; <B>NEW FEATURE!</B></LI> > <LI>Change your group <A > HREF= " /join " >SETTINGS</A></\ LI> > <LI><A HREF= " mailto: " >POST</A> a > message</LI> > <LI><A > HREF= " mailto: -subscribe " >SUBSCRIBE</A> to > the list</LI> > <LI><A > HREF= " mailto: -unsubscribe " >UNSUBSCRIBE</A> > from the list</LI> > <LI>Send an <A > HREF= " mailto: -owner " >EMAIL</A> to the List > Owner & Moderators</LI> > </UL></FONT> > <PRE><FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " >List Owner: Idol > Moderators: Heidi Schuppenhauer > Wanita Sears > </FONT></PRE> > </BODY> > </HTML> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 Robin, It could be that the fats are not being broken down in the stomach due to low hydrochloric acid........ Also cellulite could also be due to stored toxins... Re: Another poop thread >> >> >> >> >>> Ever try a Liver Flush?? www.toolsforhealing.com- probably same >> premise as Liver Tea, just more dramatic results. >> >> I have actually done four liver flushes, all of which were very >> successful. I just finished one up a couple of weeks ago. I am >> taking a bit of a break for the holidays and then will start up again >> in January or February. >> >>>EVERYONE has a congested liver full of stones. I am thinking this is >> in part due to eating the wrong kind of fats (cooked) or not enough fats. >> >> For me, it is also due to the fact that I took a lot of antibiotics >> from childhood to the age of 20 or so. I am 27 now. >> >>>You need these fats to make the right composition for bile. I have >> done a number of these flushes. >> >> Have you noticed a change in your bowels from doing these? >> >>>If you do the recipe on tools for healing make sure you take 4 >> capsules 500 MG of L-ornithine with the Olive oil/grapefruit juice, >> or you will end up power puking at 3am. >> >> Ah, I was wondering why the Ornithine was necessary. >> >>> It is another vitally important piece in the health puzzle to make >> sure the pathways are clear from your liver out to your intestines. >> >> Yep, I do a colonic after every flush! >> >> How many flushes have you done? >> >> ~a >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <HTML> >> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC " -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN " >> " http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd " > >> <BODY> >> <FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " > >> Important <B>Native Nutrition</B> Addresses >> <UL> >> <LI>Native Nutrition on the <A >> HREF= " / " >WEB</A> >> <LI>Search the message <A HREF= " http://onibasu.dyndns.org/ " >ARCHIVE</A> >> & mdash; <B>NEW FEATURE!</B></LI> >> <LI>Change your group <A >> HREF= " /join " >SETTINGS</A></\ LI> >> <LI><A HREF= " mailto: " >POST</A> a >> message</LI> >> <LI><A >> HREF= " mailto: -subscribe " >SUBSCRIBE</A> to >> the list</LI> >> <LI><A >> HREF= " mailto: -unsubscribe " >UNSUBSCRIBE</A> >> from the list</LI> >> <LI>Send an <A >> HREF= " mailto: -owner " >EMAIL</A> to the >> List >> Owner & Moderators</LI> >> </UL></FONT> >> <PRE><FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " >List Owner: Idol >> Moderators: Heidi Schuppenhauer >> Wanita Sears >> </FONT></PRE> >> </BODY> >> </HTML> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 Hello, I have been dealing with some of the same issues. What I found out was that there is a connection with gum disease and the ability to metabolize fats. I was not able to metabolize fats. My poop floated. I was informed by Clara Felix of the work of a dentist who found that his patients with gum disease also could not metabolize fats. He recommended adding OX BILE as a supplement. I did this (using Allergy Research's brand of ox-biile) and it worked very well. My dry eyes, dry hair, and gum disease all responded. Fat absorption is so important to absorbing the essential fatty acids. I also am in the midst of a series of liver flushes. Eventially I believe I will be able to stop using the ox-bile. _Lizet Freeman > >>> Ever try a Liver Flush?? www.toolsforhealing.com- probably same > >> premise as Liver Tea, just more dramatic results. > >> > >> I have actually done four liver flushes, all of which were very > >> successful. I just finished one up a couple of weeks ago. I am > >> taking a bit of a break for the holidays and then will start up again > >> in January or February. > >> > >>>EVERYONE has a congested liver full of stones. I am thinking this is > >> in part due to eating the wrong kind of fats (cooked) or not enough fats. > >> > >> For me, it is also due to the fact that I took a lot of antibiotics > >> from childhood to the age of 20 or so. I am 27 now. > >> > >>>You need these fats to make the right composition for bile. I have > >> done a number of these flushes. > >> > >> Have you noticed a change in your bowels from doing these? > >> > >>>If you do the recipe on tools for healing make sure you take 4 > >> capsules 500 MG of L-ornithine with the Olive oil/grapefruit juice, > >> or you will end up power puking at 3am. > >> > >> Ah, I was wondering why the Ornithine was necessary. > >> > >>> It is another vitally important piece in the health puzzle to make > >> sure the pathways are clear from your liver out to your intestines. > >> > >> Yep, I do a colonic after every flush! > >> > >> How many flushes have you done? > >> > >> ~a > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> <HTML> > >> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC " -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN " > >> " http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd " > > >> <BODY> > >> <FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " > > >> Important <B>Native Nutrition</B> Addresses > >> <UL> > >> <LI>Native Nutrition on the <A > >> HREF= " native- nutrition/ " >WEB</A> > >> <LI>Search the message <A HREF= " http://onibasu.dyndns.org/ " >ARCHIVE</A> > >> & mdash; <B>NEW FEATURE!</B></LI> > >> <LI>Change your group <A > >> HREF= " native- nutrition/join " >SETTINGS</A></LI> > >> <LI><A HREF= " mailto: " >POST</A> a > >> message</LI> > >> <LI><A > >> HREF= " mailto: - subscribe " >SUBSCRIBE</A> to > >> the list</LI> > >> <LI><A > >> HREF= " mailto: - unsubscribe " >UNSUBSCRIBE</A> > >> from the list</LI> > >> <LI>Send an <A > >> HREF= " mailto: -owner " >EMAIL</A> to the > >> List > >> Owner & Moderators</LI> > >> </UL></FONT> > >> <PRE><FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " >List Owner: Idol > >> Moderators: Heidi Schuppenhauer > >> Wanita Sears > >> </FONT></PRE> > >> </BODY> > >> </HTML> > >> > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 WOW very interesting. I have no dental issues, and strong gums. Is it the quality of the fats that cause it not to be metabolized? There are differntiations to be made here between cooked/raw fats -- Omega6/3 fats. And how would someone go about curing a hydrochloric acid problem. I have read that a back up of stones and bile in the liver possibly cause this. I have no stomach digestive ailments ( well except Leaky gut, but that may be resolved by now.) I eat such things as raw chicken, turkey, eggs, etc. and have no troubles. I would think that If I had an acid problem I would have more upset or dysfunction from some of the bacteria I eat. Although I do have One noticeable problem. Alot of UNLADYLIKE BELCHING. I have always had this. I seem to notice I am the gassiest one around. I come out with these fog horn belches sometimes. Geesh I want to be able to absorb all the good EFA's I am eating, otherwise I am flushing $ down the drain!! Re: Another poop thread Hello, I have been dealing with some of the same issues. What I found out was that there is a connection with gum disease and the ability to metabolize fats. I was not able to metabolize fats. My poop floated. I was informed by Clara Felix of the work of a dentist who found that his patients with gum disease also could not metabolize fats. He recommended adding OX BILE as a supplement. I did this (using Allergy Research's brand of ox-biile) and it worked very well. My dry eyes, dry hair, and gum disease all responded. Fat absorption is so important to absorbing the essential fatty acids. I also am in the midst of a series of liver flushes. Eventially I believe I will be able to stop using the ox-bile. _Lizet Freeman > >>> Ever try a Liver Flush?? www.toolsforhealing.com- probably same > >> premise as Liver Tea, just more dramatic results. > >> > >> I have actually done four liver flushes, all of which were very > >> successful. I just finished one up a couple of weeks ago. I am > >> taking a bit of a break for the holidays and then will start up again > >> in January or February. > >> > >>>EVERYONE has a congested liver full of stones. I am thinking this is > >> in part due to eating the wrong kind of fats (cooked) or not enough fats. > >> > >> For me, it is also due to the fact that I took a lot of antibiotics > >> from childhood to the age of 20 or so. I am 27 now. > >> > >>>You need these fats to make the right composition for bile. I have > >> done a number of these flushes. > >> > >> Have you noticed a change in your bowels from doing these? > >> > >>>If you do the recipe on tools for healing make sure you take 4 > >> capsules 500 MG of L-ornithine with the Olive oil/grapefruit juice, > >> or you will end up power puking at 3am. > >> > >> Ah, I was wondering why the Ornithine was necessary. > >> > >>> It is another vitally important piece in the health puzzle to make > >> sure the pathways are clear from your liver out to your intestines. > >> > >> Yep, I do a colonic after every flush! > >> > >> How many flushes have you done? > >> > >> ~a > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> <HTML> > >> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC " -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN " > >> " http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd " > > >> <BODY> > >> <FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " > > >> Important <B>Native Nutrition</B> Addresses > >> <UL> > >> <LI>Native Nutrition on the <A > >> HREF= " native- nutrition/ " >WEB</A> > >> <LI>Search the message <A HREF= " http://onibasu.dyndns.org/ " >ARCHIVE</A> > >> & mdash; <B>NEW FEATURE!</B></LI> > >> <LI>Change your group <A > >> HREF= " native- nutrition/join " >SETTINGS</A></LI> > >> <LI><A HREF= " mailto: " >POST</A> a > >> message</LI> > >> <LI><A > >> HREF= " mailto: - subscribe " >SUBSCRIBE</A> to > >> the list</LI> > >> <LI><A > >> HREF= " mailto: - unsubscribe " >UNSUBSCRIBE</A> > >> from the list</LI> > >> <LI>Send an <A > >> HREF= " mailto: -owner " >EMAIL</A> to the > >> List > >> Owner & Moderators</LI> > >> </UL></FONT> > >> <PRE><FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " >List Owner: Idol > >> Moderators: Heidi Schuppenhauer > >> Wanita Sears > >> </FONT></PRE> > >> </BODY> > >> </HTML> > >> > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 The hydrochloric acid is prompted when the para-sympathetic system takes over...the relaxing period... I think it's organochlrines that can turn this off...Are you by any chance a nervous type..?? I read somewhere that drinking a cup of beet juice and seeing if it turns up in your urine is an indication of whether the hydrochloric acd is working. Red urine means system not working... Sounds though that your acid maybe low..belching could mean that there's lot's of die off from bacteria in the stomach..High bacteria is also a sign of low acid.. Re: Another poop thread > > > > Hello, I have been dealing with some of the same issues. What I > found out was that there is a connection with gum disease and the > ability to metabolize fats. > I was not able to metabolize fats. My poop floated. I was informed > by Clara Felix of the work of a dentist who found that his patients > with gum disease also could not metabolize fats. He recommended > adding OX BILE as a supplement. > I did this (using Allergy Research's brand of ox-biile) and it worked > very well. > My dry eyes, dry hair, and gum disease all responded. > Fat absorption is so important to absorbing the essential fatty > acids. > I also am in the midst of a series of liver flushes. Eventially I > believe I will be able to stop using the ox-bile. > _Lizet Freeman > > >> >>> Ever try a Liver Flush?? www.toolsforhealing.com- probably same >> >> premise as Liver Tea, just more dramatic results. >> >> >> >> I have actually done four liver flushes, all of which were very >> >> successful. I just finished one up a couple of weeks ago. I am >> >> taking a bit of a break for the holidays and then will start up > again >> >> in January or February. >> >> >> >>>EVERYONE has a congested liver full of stones. I am thinking > this is >> >> in part due to eating the wrong kind of fats (cooked) or not > enough fats. >> >> >> >> For me, it is also due to the fact that I took a lot of > antibiotics >> >> from childhood to the age of 20 or so. I am 27 now. >> >> >> >>>You need these fats to make the right composition for bile. I > have >> >> done a number of these flushes. >> >> >> >> Have you noticed a change in your bowels from doing these? >> >> >> >>>If you do the recipe on tools for healing make sure you take 4 >> >> capsules 500 MG of L-ornithine with the Olive oil/grapefruit > juice, >> >> or you will end up power puking at 3am. >> >> >> >> Ah, I was wondering why the Ornithine was necessary. >> >> >> >>> It is another vitally important piece in the health puzzle to > make >> >> sure the pathways are clear from your liver out to your > intestines. >> >> >> >> Yep, I do a colonic after every flush! >> >> >> >> How many flushes have you done? >> >> >> >> ~a >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <HTML> >> >> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC " -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN " >> >> " http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd " > >> >> <BODY> >> >> <FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " > >> >> Important <B>Native Nutrition</B> Addresses >> >> <UL> >> >> <LI>Native Nutrition on the <A >> >> HREF= " native- > nutrition/ " >WEB</A> >> >> <LI>Search the message <A > HREF= " http://onibasu.dyndns.org/ " >ARCHIVE</A> >> >> & mdash; <B>NEW FEATURE!</B></LI> >> >> <LI>Change your group <A >> >> HREF= " native- > nutrition/join " >SETTINGS</A></LI> >> >> <LI><A HREF= " mailto: " >POST</A> a >> >> message</LI> >> >> <LI><A >> >> HREF= " mailto: - > subscribe " >SUBSCRIBE</A> to >> >> the list</LI> >> >> <LI><A >> >> HREF= " mailto: - > unsubscribe " >UNSUBSCRIBE</A> >> >> from the list</LI> >> >> <LI>Send an <A >> >> HREF= " mailto: -owner " >EMAIL</A> > to the >> >> List >> >> Owner & Moderators</LI> >> >> </UL></FONT> >> >> <PRE><FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " >List Owner: Idol >> >> Moderators: Heidi Schuppenhauer >> >> Wanita Sears >> >> </FONT></PRE> >> >> </BODY> >> >> </HTML> >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 http://www.diagnose-me.com/cond/C42561.html#H1 I found a page about hcl deficiency, and yes burping is a sign. Re: Another poop thread >> >> >> >> >>> Ever try a Liver Flush?? www.toolsforhealing.com- probably same >> premise as Liver Tea, just more dramatic results. >> >> I have actually done four liver flushes, all of which were very >> successful. I just finished one up a couple of weeks ago. I am >> taking a bit of a break for the holidays and then will start up again >> in January or February. >> >>>EVERYONE has a congested liver full of stones. I am thinking this is >> in part due to eating the wrong kind of fats (cooked) or not enough fats. >> >> For me, it is also due to the fact that I took a lot of antibiotics >> from childhood to the age of 20 or so. I am 27 now. >> >>>You need these fats to make the right composition for bile. I have >> done a number of these flushes. >> >> Have you noticed a change in your bowels from doing these? >> >>>If you do the recipe on tools for healing make sure you take 4 >> capsules 500 MG of L-ornithine with the Olive oil/grapefruit juice, >> or you will end up power puking at 3am. >> >> Ah, I was wondering why the Ornithine was necessary. >> >>> It is another vitally important piece in the health puzzle to make >> sure the pathways are clear from your liver out to your intestines. >> >> Yep, I do a colonic after every flush! >> >> How many flushes have you done? >> >> ~a >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <HTML> >> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC " -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN " >> " http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd " > >> <BODY> >> <FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " > >> Important <B>Native Nutrition</B> Addresses >> <UL> >> <LI>Native Nutrition on the <A >> HREF= " / " >WEB</A> >> <LI>Search the message <A HREF= " http://onibasu.dyndns.org/ " >ARCHIVE</A> >> & mdash; <B>NEW FEATURE!</B></LI> >> <LI>Change your group <A >> HREF= " /join " >SETTINGS</A></\ LI> >> <LI><A HREF= " mailto: " >POST</A> a >> message</LI> >> <LI><A >> HREF= " mailto: -subscribe " >SUBSCRIBE</A> to >> the list</LI> >> <LI><A >> HREF= " mailto: -unsubscribe " >UNSUBSCRIBE</A> >> from the list</LI> >> <LI>Send an <A >> HREF= " mailto: -owner " >EMAIL</A> to the >> List >> Owner & Moderators</LI> >> </UL></FONT> >> <PRE><FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " >List Owner: Idol >> Moderators: Heidi Schuppenhauer >> Wanita Sears >> </FONT></PRE> >> </BODY> >> </HTML> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 Although eating too much at one sitting may be a problem for Hcl as well. If I put too much in at one time I suppose the hcl mixture will get diluted. I mean how much HcL can the body pump out? I may not be following my bodies rules, and I guess I should pay more attention to the conditions under which I Burp. Re: Another poop thread >> >> >> >> >>> Ever try a Liver Flush?? www.toolsforhealing.com- probably same >> premise as Liver Tea, just more dramatic results. >> >> I have actually done four liver flushes, all of which were very >> successful. I just finished one up a couple of weeks ago. I am >> taking a bit of a break for the holidays and then will start up again >> in January or February. >> >>>EVERYONE has a congested liver full of stones. I am thinking this is >> in part due to eating the wrong kind of fats (cooked) or not enough fats. >> >> For me, it is also due to the fact that I took a lot of antibiotics >> from childhood to the age of 20 or so. I am 27 now. >> >>>You need these fats to make the right composition for bile. I have >> done a number of these flushes. >> >> Have you noticed a change in your bowels from doing these? >> >>>If you do the recipe on tools for healing make sure you take 4 >> capsules 500 MG of L-ornithine with the Olive oil/grapefruit juice, >> or you will end up power puking at 3am. >> >> Ah, I was wondering why the Ornithine was necessary. >> >>> It is another vitally important piece in the health puzzle to make >> sure the pathways are clear from your liver out to your intestines. >> >> Yep, I do a colonic after every flush! >> >> How many flushes have you done? >> >> ~a >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <HTML> >> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC " -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN " >> " http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd " > >> <BODY> >> <FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " > >> Important <B>Native Nutrition</B> Addresses >> <UL> >> <LI>Native Nutrition on the <A >> HREF= " / " >WEB</A> >> <LI>Search the message <A HREF= " http://onibasu.dyndns.org/ " >ARCHIVE</A> >> & mdash; <B>NEW FEATURE!</B></LI> >> <LI>Change your group <A >> HREF= " /join " >SETTINGS</A></\ LI> >> <LI><A HREF= " mailto: " >POST</A> a >> message</LI> >> <LI><A >> HREF= " mailto: -subscribe " >SUBSCRIBE</A> to >> the list</LI> >> <LI><A >> HREF= " mailto: -unsubscribe " >UNSUBSCRIBE</A> >> from the list</LI> >> <LI>Send an <A >> HREF= " mailto: -owner " >EMAIL</A> to the >> List >> Owner & Moderators</LI> >> </UL></FONT> >> <PRE><FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " >List Owner: Idol >> Moderators: Heidi Schuppenhauer >> Wanita Sears >> </FONT></PRE> >> </BODY> >> </HTML> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 Yes, I am the " nervous type " Yes I have eaten Raw beets, and my urine comes out pink. Re: Another poop thread > > > > Hello, I have been dealing with some of the same issues. What I > found out was that there is a connection with gum disease and the > ability to metabolize fats. > I was not able to metabolize fats. My poop floated. I was informed > by Clara Felix of the work of a dentist who found that his patients > with gum disease also could not metabolize fats. He recommended > adding OX BILE as a supplement. > I did this (using Allergy Research's brand of ox-biile) and it worked > very well. > My dry eyes, dry hair, and gum disease all responded. > Fat absorption is so important to absorbing the essential fatty > acids. > I also am in the midst of a series of liver flushes. Eventially I > believe I will be able to stop using the ox-bile. > _Lizet Freeman > > >> >>> Ever try a Liver Flush?? www.toolsforhealing.com- probably same >> >> premise as Liver Tea, just more dramatic results. >> >> >> >> I have actually done four liver flushes, all of which were very >> >> successful. I just finished one up a couple of weeks ago. I am >> >> taking a bit of a break for the holidays and then will start up > again >> >> in January or February. >> >> >> >>>EVERYONE has a congested liver full of stones. I am thinking > this is >> >> in part due to eating the wrong kind of fats (cooked) or not > enough fats. >> >> >> >> For me, it is also due to the fact that I took a lot of > antibiotics >> >> from childhood to the age of 20 or so. I am 27 now. >> >> >> >>>You need these fats to make the right composition for bile. I > have >> >> done a number of these flushes. >> >> >> >> Have you noticed a change in your bowels from doing these? >> >> >> >>>If you do the recipe on tools for healing make sure you take 4 >> >> capsules 500 MG of L-ornithine with the Olive oil/grapefruit > juice, >> >> or you will end up power puking at 3am. >> >> >> >> Ah, I was wondering why the Ornithine was necessary. >> >> >> >>> It is another vitally important piece in the health puzzle to > make >> >> sure the pathways are clear from your liver out to your > intestines. >> >> >> >> Yep, I do a colonic after every flush! >> >> >> >> How many flushes have you done? >> >> >> >> ~a >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <HTML> >> >> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC " -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN " >> >> " http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd " > >> >> <BODY> >> >> <FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " > >> >> Important <B>Native Nutrition</B> Addresses >> >> <UL> >> >> <LI>Native Nutrition on the <A >> >> HREF= " native- > nutrition/ " >WEB</A> >> >> <LI>Search the message <A > HREF= " http://onibasu.dyndns.org/ " >ARCHIVE</A> >> >> & mdash; <B>NEW FEATURE!</B></LI> >> >> <LI>Change your group <A >> >> HREF= " native- > nutrition/join " >SETTINGS</A></LI> >> >> <LI><A HREF= " mailto: " >POST</A> a >> >> message</LI> >> >> <LI><A >> >> HREF= " mailto: - > subscribe " >SUBSCRIBE</A> to >> >> the list</LI> >> >> <LI><A >> >> HREF= " mailto: - > unsubscribe " >UNSUBSCRIBE</A> >> >> from the list</LI> >> >> <LI>Send an <A >> >> HREF= " mailto: -owner " >EMAIL</A> > to the >> >> List >> >> Owner & Moderators</LI> >> >> </UL></FONT> >> >> <PRE><FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " >List Owner: Idol >> >> Moderators: Heidi Schuppenhauer >> >> Wanita Sears >> >> </FONT></PRE> >> >> </BODY> >> >> </HTML> >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 14:33:18 -0500, Robin Plourde <rlplourde@...> wrote: > this. I have no stomach digestive ailments ( well except Leaky gut, but that > may be resolved by now.) I eat such things as raw chicken, turkey, eggs, > etc. and have no troubles. I would think that If I had an acid problem I > would have more upset or dysfunction from some of the bacteria I eat. > Although I do have One noticeable problem. Alot of UNLADYLIKE BELCHING. I > have always had this. I seem to notice I am the gassiest one around. I come > out with these fog horn belches sometimes. Robin, I've had the same belching problem. I also noticed that when I get a back rub, or rub my own shoulder muscles, that I start belching until something finally seems relieved, both in my stomach and in the tightness of my neck/shoulder muscles. My sister and father are the same way. I mentioned this to my chiropractor, who said the shoulder muscles are related to the stomach. He does CRA/BRT (which involve muscle testing) and determined that I am low in stomach acid and gave me Zypan (a Standard Process product) which contains betaine hydrochloride. That seems to have helped tremendously, though I still have some belching. But not nearly like before. It also seems to have relieved the headaches I was getting right tight shoulder/neck muscles. Our bodies are so fascinating. I am always amazed at some of the seemingly unrelated connections in our body. We truly are fearfully and wonderfully made. Fern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 I also forgot to mention that taking cayenne pepper (in capsule or tincture form) before eating is supposed to help, as it triggers your stomach to produce hydrochloride acid. I haven't actually tried as it seems the Zypan is working. But I should, as it would be a much better long-term solution if it would work for me. Fern On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 15:13:20 -0500, Fern <sonphos@...> wrote: > On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 14:33:18 -0500, Robin Plourde > <rlplourde@...> wrote: > > > this. I have no stomach digestive ailments ( well except Leaky gut, but that > > may be resolved by now.) I eat such things as raw chicken, turkey, eggs, > > etc. and have no troubles. I would think that If I had an acid problem I > > would have more upset or dysfunction from some of the bacteria I eat. > > Although I do have One noticeable problem. Alot of UNLADYLIKE BELCHING. I > > have always had this. I seem to notice I am the gassiest one around. I come > > out with these fog horn belches sometimes. > > Robin, I've had the same belching problem. I also noticed that when I > get a back rub, or rub my own shoulder muscles, that I start belching > until something finally seems relieved, both in my stomach and in the > tightness of my neck/shoulder muscles. My sister and father are the > same way. I mentioned this to my chiropractor, who said the shoulder > muscles are related to the stomach. He does CRA/BRT (which involve > muscle testing) and determined that I am low in stomach acid and gave > me Zypan (a Standard Process product) which contains betaine > hydrochloride. That seems to have helped tremendously, though I still > have some belching. But not nearly like before. It also seems to have > relieved the headaches I was getting right tight shoulder/neck > muscles. > > Our bodies are so fascinating. I am always amazed at some of the > seemingly unrelated connections in our body. We truly are fearfully > and wonderfully made. > > Fern > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 Sounds like low acid.... I'd go the apple cider vinegar route before trying the oral hydrochlric acid. The vinegar treatment ios very well known here in Germany and many people swear by it. It also is great at flushing out yeast.... Re: Another poop thread >> >> >> >> Hello, I have been dealing with some of the same issues. What I >> found out was that there is a connection with gum disease and the >> ability to metabolize fats. >> I was not able to metabolize fats. My poop floated. I was informed >> by Clara Felix of the work of a dentist who found that his patients >> with gum disease also could not metabolize fats. He recommended >> adding OX BILE as a supplement. >> I did this (using Allergy Research's brand of ox-biile) and it worked >> very well. >> My dry eyes, dry hair, and gum disease all responded. >> Fat absorption is so important to absorbing the essential fatty >> acids. >> I also am in the midst of a series of liver flushes. Eventially I >> believe I will be able to stop using the ox-bile. >> _Lizet Freeman >> >> >>> >>> Ever try a Liver Flush?? www.toolsforhealing.com- probably same >>> >> premise as Liver Tea, just more dramatic results. >>> >> >>> >> I have actually done four liver flushes, all of which were very >>> >> successful. I just finished one up a couple of weeks ago. I am >>> >> taking a bit of a break for the holidays and then will start up >> again >>> >> in January or February. >>> >> >>> >>>EVERYONE has a congested liver full of stones. I am thinking >> this is >>> >> in part due to eating the wrong kind of fats (cooked) or not >> enough fats. >>> >> >>> >> For me, it is also due to the fact that I took a lot of >> antibiotics >>> >> from childhood to the age of 20 or so. I am 27 now. >>> >> >>> >>>You need these fats to make the right composition for bile. I >> have >>> >> done a number of these flushes. >>> >> >>> >> Have you noticed a change in your bowels from doing these? >>> >> >>> >>>If you do the recipe on tools for healing make sure you take 4 >>> >> capsules 500 MG of L-ornithine with the Olive oil/grapefruit >> juice, >>> >> or you will end up power puking at 3am. >>> >> >>> >> Ah, I was wondering why the Ornithine was necessary. >>> >> >>> >>> It is another vitally important piece in the health puzzle to >> make >>> >> sure the pathways are clear from your liver out to your >> intestines. >>> >> >>> >> Yep, I do a colonic after every flush! >>> >> >>> >> How many flushes have you done? >>> >> >>> >> ~a >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> <HTML> >>> >> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC " -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN " >>> >> " http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd " > >>> >> <BODY> >>> >> <FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " > >>> >> Important <B>Native Nutrition</B> Addresses >>> >> <UL> >>> >> <LI>Native Nutrition on the <A >>> >> HREF= " native- >> nutrition/ " >WEB</A> >>> >> <LI>Search the message <A >> HREF= " http://onibasu.dyndns.org/ " >ARCHIVE</A> >>> >> & mdash; <B>NEW FEATURE!</B></LI> >>> >> <LI>Change your group <A >>> >> HREF= " native- >> nutrition/join " >SETTINGS</A></LI> >>> >> <LI><A HREF= " mailto: " >POST</A> a >>> >> message</LI> >>> >> <LI><A >>> >> HREF= " mailto: - >> subscribe " >SUBSCRIBE</A> to >>> >> the list</LI> >>> >> <LI><A >>> >> HREF= " mailto: - >> unsubscribe " >UNSUBSCRIBE</A> >>> >> from the list</LI> >>> >> <LI>Send an <A >>> >> HREF= " mailto: -owner " >EMAIL</A> >> to the >>> >> List >>> >> Owner & Moderators</LI> >>> >> </UL></FONT> >>> >> <PRE><FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " >List Owner: Idol >>> >> Moderators: Heidi Schuppenhauer >>> >> Wanita Sears >>> >> </FONT></PRE> >>> >> </BODY> >>> >> </HTML> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 Yeah, sometimes I am not a very relaxed person , and I do carry some tension . Have been to a good chiro. They straightened me out and broke my joints free. Since then I have been working out to keep things in alignment. Yes our bodies are intricate fascinating systems. It's a process of eliminating variables and listening to my body. I have to start paying more attention to the belching- when it occurs, and experiment with food quantities, combinations , etc. - The magic Mystery (sometimes Misery ) Tour of the body Re: Another poop thread I also forgot to mention that taking cayenne pepper (in capsule or tincture form) before eating is supposed to help, as it triggers your stomach to produce hydrochloride acid. I haven't actually tried as it seems the Zypan is working. But I should, as it would be a much better long-term solution if it would work for me. Fern On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 15:13:20 -0500, Fern <sonphos@...> wrote: > On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 14:33:18 -0500, Robin Plourde > <rlplourde@...> wrote: > > > this. I have no stomach digestive ailments ( well except Leaky gut, but that > > may be resolved by now.) I eat such things as raw chicken, turkey, eggs, > > etc. and have no troubles. I would think that If I had an acid problem I > > would have more upset or dysfunction from some of the bacteria I eat. > > Although I do have One noticeable problem. Alot of UNLADYLIKE BELCHING. I > > have always had this. I seem to notice I am the gassiest one around. I come > > out with these fog horn belches sometimes. > > Robin, I've had the same belching problem. I also noticed that when I > get a back rub, or rub my own shoulder muscles, that I start belching > until something finally seems relieved, both in my stomach and in the > tightness of my neck/shoulder muscles. My sister and father are the > same way. I mentioned this to my chiropractor, who said the shoulder > muscles are related to the stomach. He does CRA/BRT (which involve > muscle testing) and determined that I am low in stomach acid and gave > me Zypan (a Standard Process product) which contains betaine > hydrochloride. That seems to have helped tremendously, though I still > have some belching. But not nearly like before. It also seems to have > relieved the headaches I was getting right tight shoulder/neck > muscles. > > Our bodies are so fascinating. I am always amazed at some of the > seemingly unrelated connections in our body. We truly are fearfully > and wonderfully made. > > Fern > <HTML> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC " -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN " " http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd " > <BODY> <FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " > Important <B>Native Nutrition</B> Addresses <UL> <LI>Native Nutrition on the <A HREF= " / " >WEB</A> <LI>Search the message <A HREF= " http://onibasu.dyndns.org/ " >ARCHIVE</A> & mdash; <B>NEW FEATURE!</B></LI> <LI>Change your group <A HREF= " /join " >SETTINGS</A></\ LI> <LI><A HREF= " mailto: " >POST</A> a message</LI> <LI><A HREF= " mailto: -subscribe " >SUBSCRIBE</A> to the list</LI> <LI><A HREF= " mailto: -unsubscribe " >UNSUBSCRIBE</A> from the list</LI> <LI>Send an <A HREF= " mailto: -owner " >EMAIL</A> to the List Owner & Moderators</LI> </UL></FONT> <PRE><FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " >List Owner: Idol Moderators: Heidi Schuppenhauer Wanita Sears </FONT></PRE> </BODY> </HTML> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 Cool Thanks julie, I actually do have some raw Bragg Apple Cider Vinegar. Maybe this is why I crave acidic tastes ,foods. But I haven't been having them lately .. Been having alot of fats. Guess I'll be adding some ACV and see what happens. Re: Another poop thread >> >> >> >> Hello, I have been dealing with some of the same issues. What I >> found out was that there is a connection with gum disease and the >> ability to metabolize fats. >> I was not able to metabolize fats. My poop floated. I was informed >> by Clara Felix of the work of a dentist who found that his patients >> with gum disease also could not metabolize fats. He recommended >> adding OX BILE as a supplement. >> I did this (using Allergy Research's brand of ox-biile) and it worked >> very well. >> My dry eyes, dry hair, and gum disease all responded. >> Fat absorption is so important to absorbing the essential fatty >> acids. >> I also am in the midst of a series of liver flushes. Eventially I >> believe I will be able to stop using the ox-bile. >> _Lizet Freeman >> >> >>> >>> Ever try a Liver Flush?? www.toolsforhealing.com- probably same >>> >> premise as Liver Tea, just more dramatic results. >>> >> >>> >> I have actually done four liver flushes, all of which were very >>> >> successful. I just finished one up a couple of weeks ago. I am >>> >> taking a bit of a break for the holidays and then will start up >> again >>> >> in January or February. >>> >> >>> >>>EVERYONE has a congested liver full of stones. I am thinking >> this is >>> >> in part due to eating the wrong kind of fats (cooked) or not >> enough fats. >>> >> >>> >> For me, it is also due to the fact that I took a lot of >> antibiotics >>> >> from childhood to the age of 20 or so. I am 27 now. >>> >> >>> >>>You need these fats to make the right composition for bile. I >> have >>> >> done a number of these flushes. >>> >> >>> >> Have you noticed a change in your bowels from doing these? >>> >> >>> >>>If you do the recipe on tools for healing make sure you take 4 >>> >> capsules 500 MG of L-ornithine with the Olive oil/grapefruit >> juice, >>> >> or you will end up power puking at 3am. >>> >> >>> >> Ah, I was wondering why the Ornithine was necessary. >>> >> >>> >>> It is another vitally important piece in the health puzzle to >> make >>> >> sure the pathways are clear from your liver out to your >> intestines. >>> >> >>> >> Yep, I do a colonic after every flush! >>> >> >>> >> How many flushes have you done? >>> >> >>> >> ~a >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> <HTML> >>> >> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC " -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN " >>> >> " http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd " > >>> >> <BODY> >>> >> <FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " > >>> >> Important <B>Native Nutrition</B> Addresses >>> >> <UL> >>> >> <LI>Native Nutrition on the <A >>> >> HREF= " native- >> nutrition/ " >WEB</A> >>> >> <LI>Search the message <A >> HREF= " http://onibasu.dyndns.org/ " >ARCHIVE</A> >>> >> & mdash; <B>NEW FEATURE!</B></LI> >>> >> <LI>Change your group <A >>> >> HREF= " native- >> nutrition/join " >SETTINGS</A></LI> >>> >> <LI><A HREF= " mailto: " >POST</A> a >>> >> message</LI> >>> >> <LI><A >>> >> HREF= " mailto: - >> subscribe " >SUBSCRIBE</A> to >>> >> the list</LI> >>> >> <LI><A >>> >> HREF= " mailto: - >> unsubscribe " >UNSUBSCRIBE</A> >>> >> from the list</LI> >>> >> <LI>Send an <A >>> >> HREF= " mailto: -owner " >EMAIL</A> >> to the >>> >> List >>> >> Owner & Moderators</LI> >>> >> </UL></FONT> >>> >> <PRE><FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " >List Owner: Idol >>> >> Moderators: Heidi Schuppenhauer >>> >> Wanita Sears >>> >> </FONT></PRE> >>> >> </BODY> >>> >> </HTML> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 You're welcome. BTW est-ce que tu es francais?? Re: Another poop thread >>> >>> >>> >>> Hello, I have been dealing with some of the same issues. What I >>> found out was that there is a connection with gum disease and the >>> ability to metabolize fats. >>> I was not able to metabolize fats. My poop floated. I was informed >>> by Clara Felix of the work of a dentist who found that his patients >>> with gum disease also could not metabolize fats. He recommended >>> adding OX BILE as a supplement. >>> I did this (using Allergy Research's brand of ox-biile) and it worked >>> very well. >>> My dry eyes, dry hair, and gum disease all responded. >>> Fat absorption is so important to absorbing the essential fatty >>> acids. >>> I also am in the midst of a series of liver flushes. Eventially I >>> believe I will be able to stop using the ox-bile. >>> _Lizet Freeman >>> >>> >>>> >>> Ever try a Liver Flush?? www.toolsforhealing.com- probably same >>>> >> premise as Liver Tea, just more dramatic results. >>>> >> >>>> >> I have actually done four liver flushes, all of which were very >>>> >> successful. I just finished one up a couple of weeks ago. I am >>>> >> taking a bit of a break for the holidays and then will start up >>> again >>>> >> in January or February. >>>> >> >>>> >>>EVERYONE has a congested liver full of stones. I am thinking >>> this is >>>> >> in part due to eating the wrong kind of fats (cooked) or not >>> enough fats. >>>> >> >>>> >> For me, it is also due to the fact that I took a lot of >>> antibiotics >>>> >> from childhood to the age of 20 or so. I am 27 now. >>>> >> >>>> >>>You need these fats to make the right composition for bile. I >>> have >>>> >> done a number of these flushes. >>>> >> >>>> >> Have you noticed a change in your bowels from doing these? >>>> >> >>>> >>>If you do the recipe on tools for healing make sure you take 4 >>>> >> capsules 500 MG of L-ornithine with the Olive oil/grapefruit >>> juice, >>>> >> or you will end up power puking at 3am. >>>> >> >>>> >> Ah, I was wondering why the Ornithine was necessary. >>>> >> >>>> >>> It is another vitally important piece in the health puzzle to >>> make >>>> >> sure the pathways are clear from your liver out to your >>> intestines. >>>> >> >>>> >> Yep, I do a colonic after every flush! >>>> >> >>>> >> How many flushes have you done? >>>> >> >>>> >> ~a >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> <HTML> >>>> >> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC " -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN " >>>> >> " http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd " > >>>> >> <BODY> >>>> >> <FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " > >>>> >> Important <B>Native Nutrition</B> Addresses >>>> >> <UL> >>>> >> <LI>Native Nutrition on the <A >>>> >> HREF= " native- >>> nutrition/ " >WEB</A> >>>> >> <LI>Search the message <A >>> HREF= " http://onibasu.dyndns.org/ " >ARCHIVE</A> >>>> >> & mdash; <B>NEW FEATURE!</B></LI> >>>> >> <LI>Change your group <A >>>> >> HREF= " native- >>> nutrition/join " >SETTINGS</A></LI> >>>> >> <LI><A HREF= " mailto: " >POST</A> a >>>> >> message</LI> >>>> >> <LI><A >>>> >> HREF= " mailto: - >>> subscribe " >SUBSCRIBE</A> to >>>> >> the list</LI> >>>> >> <LI><A >>>> >> HREF= " mailto: - >>> unsubscribe " >UNSUBSCRIBE</A> >>>> >> from the list</LI> >>>> >> <LI>Send an <A >>>> >> HREF= " mailto: -owner " >EMAIL</A> >>> to the >>>> >> List >>>> >> Owner & Moderators</LI> >>>> >> </UL></FONT> >>>> >> <PRE><FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " >List Owner: Idol >>>> >> Moderators: Heidi Schuppenhauer >>>> >> Wanita Sears >>>> >> </FONT></PRE> >>>> >> </BODY> >>>> >> </HTML> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 Oui Faulein, but French Canadian (both sides of family) - Born in and reside in Massachusetts USA , with one year of highschool french under my belt. Re: Another poop thread >>> >>> >>> >>> Hello, I have been dealing with some of the same issues. What I >>> found out was that there is a connection with gum disease and the >>> ability to metabolize fats. >>> I was not able to metabolize fats. My poop floated. I was informed >>> by Clara Felix of the work of a dentist who found that his patients >>> with gum disease also could not metabolize fats. He recommended >>> adding OX BILE as a supplement. >>> I did this (using Allergy Research's brand of ox-biile) and it worked >>> very well. >>> My dry eyes, dry hair, and gum disease all responded. >>> Fat absorption is so important to absorbing the essential fatty >>> acids. >>> I also am in the midst of a series of liver flushes. Eventially I >>> believe I will be able to stop using the ox-bile. >>> _Lizet Freeman >>> >>> >>>> >>> Ever try a Liver Flush?? www.toolsforhealing.com- probably same >>>> >> premise as Liver Tea, just more dramatic results. >>>> >> >>>> >> I have actually done four liver flushes, all of which were very >>>> >> successful. I just finished one up a couple of weeks ago. I am >>>> >> taking a bit of a break for the holidays and then will start up >>> again >>>> >> in January or February. >>>> >> >>>> >>>EVERYONE has a congested liver full of stones. I am thinking >>> this is >>>> >> in part due to eating the wrong kind of fats (cooked) or not >>> enough fats. >>>> >> >>>> >> For me, it is also due to the fact that I took a lot of >>> antibiotics >>>> >> from childhood to the age of 20 or so. I am 27 now. >>>> >> >>>> >>>You need these fats to make the right composition for bile. I >>> have >>>> >> done a number of these flushes. >>>> >> >>>> >> Have you noticed a change in your bowels from doing these? >>>> >> >>>> >>>If you do the recipe on tools for healing make sure you take 4 >>>> >> capsules 500 MG of L-ornithine with the Olive oil/grapefruit >>> juice, >>>> >> or you will end up power puking at 3am. >>>> >> >>>> >> Ah, I was wondering why the Ornithine was necessary. >>>> >> >>>> >>> It is another vitally important piece in the health puzzle to >>> make >>>> >> sure the pathways are clear from your liver out to your >>> intestines. >>>> >> >>>> >> Yep, I do a colonic after every flush! >>>> >> >>>> >> How many flushes have you done? >>>> >> >>>> >> ~a >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> <HTML> >>>> >> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC " -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN " >>>> >> " http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd " > >>>> >> <BODY> >>>> >> <FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " > >>>> >> Important <B>Native Nutrition</B> Addresses >>>> >> <UL> >>>> >> <LI>Native Nutrition on the <A >>>> >> HREF= " native- >>> nutrition/ " >WEB</A> >>>> >> <LI>Search the message <A >>> HREF= " http://onibasu.dyndns.org/ " >ARCHIVE</A> >>>> >> & mdash; <B>NEW FEATURE!</B></LI> >>>> >> <LI>Change your group <A >>>> >> HREF= " native- >>> nutrition/join " >SETTINGS</A></LI> >>>> >> <LI><A HREF= " mailto: " >POST</A> a >>>> >> message</LI> >>>> >> <LI><A >>>> >> HREF= " mailto: - >>> subscribe " >SUBSCRIBE</A> to >>>> >> the list</LI> >>>> >> <LI><A >>>> >> HREF= " mailto: - >>> unsubscribe " >UNSUBSCRIBE</A> >>>> >> from the list</LI> >>>> >> <LI>Send an <A >>>> >> HREF= " mailto: -owner " >EMAIL</A> >>> to the >>>> >> List >>>> >> Owner & Moderators</LI> >>>> >> </UL></FONT> >>>> >> <PRE><FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " >List Owner: Idol >>>> >> Moderators: Heidi Schuppenhauer >>>> >> Wanita Sears >>>> >> </FONT></PRE> >>>> >> </BODY> >>>> >> </HTML> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 je suis aussi canadienne!! Re: Another poop thread >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hello, I have been dealing with some of the same issues. What I >>>> found out was that there is a connection with gum disease and the >>>> ability to metabolize fats. >>>> I was not able to metabolize fats. My poop floated. I was informed >>>> by Clara Felix of the work of a dentist who found that his patients >>>> with gum disease also could not metabolize fats. He recommended >>>> adding OX BILE as a supplement. >>>> I did this (using Allergy Research's brand of ox-biile) and it worked >>>> very well. >>>> My dry eyes, dry hair, and gum disease all responded. >>>> Fat absorption is so important to absorbing the essential fatty >>>> acids. >>>> I also am in the midst of a series of liver flushes. Eventially I >>>> believe I will be able to stop using the ox-bile. >>>> _Lizet Freeman >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> Ever try a Liver Flush?? www.toolsforhealing.com- probably same >>>>> >> premise as Liver Tea, just more dramatic results. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I have actually done four liver flushes, all of which were very >>>>> >> successful. I just finished one up a couple of weeks ago. I am >>>>> >> taking a bit of a break for the holidays and then will start up >>>> again >>>>> >> in January or February. >>>>> >> >>>>> >>>EVERYONE has a congested liver full of stones. I am thinking >>>> this is >>>>> >> in part due to eating the wrong kind of fats (cooked) or not >>>> enough fats. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> For me, it is also due to the fact that I took a lot of >>>> antibiotics >>>>> >> from childhood to the age of 20 or so. I am 27 now. >>>>> >> >>>>> >>>You need these fats to make the right composition for bile. I >>>> have >>>>> >> done a number of these flushes. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Have you noticed a change in your bowels from doing these? >>>>> >> >>>>> >>>If you do the recipe on tools for healing make sure you take 4 >>>>> >> capsules 500 MG of L-ornithine with the Olive oil/grapefruit >>>> juice, >>>>> >> or you will end up power puking at 3am. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Ah, I was wondering why the Ornithine was necessary. >>>>> >> >>>>> >>> It is another vitally important piece in the health puzzle to >>>> make >>>>> >> sure the pathways are clear from your liver out to your >>>> intestines. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Yep, I do a colonic after every flush! >>>>> >> >>>>> >> How many flushes have you done? >>>>> >> >>>>> >> ~a >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> <HTML> >>>>> >> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC " -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN " >>>>> >> " http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd " > >>>>> >> <BODY> >>>>> >> <FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " > >>>>> >> Important <B>Native Nutrition</B> Addresses >>>>> >> <UL> >>>>> >> <LI>Native Nutrition on the <A >>>>> >> HREF= " native- >>>> nutrition/ " >WEB</A> >>>>> >> <LI>Search the message <A >>>> HREF= " http://onibasu.dyndns.org/ " >ARCHIVE</A> >>>>> >> & mdash; <B>NEW FEATURE!</B></LI> >>>>> >> <LI>Change your group <A >>>>> >> HREF= " native- >>>> nutrition/join " >SETTINGS</A></LI> >>>>> >> <LI><A HREF= " mailto: " >POST</A> a >>>>> >> message</LI> >>>>> >> <LI><A >>>>> >> HREF= " mailto: - >>>> subscribe " >SUBSCRIBE</A> to >>>>> >> the list</LI> >>>>> >> <LI><A >>>>> >> HREF= " mailto: - >>>> unsubscribe " >UNSUBSCRIBE</A> >>>>> >> from the list</LI> >>>>> >> <LI>Send an <A >>>>> >> HREF= " mailto: -owner " >EMAIL</A> >>>> to the >>>>> >> List >>>>> >> Owner & Moderators</LI> >>>>> >> </UL></FONT> >>>>> >> <PRE><FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " >List Owner: Idol >>>>> >> Moderators: Heidi Schuppenhauer >>>>> >> Wanita Sears >>>>> >> </FONT></PRE> >>>>> >> </BODY> >>>>> >> </HTML> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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