Re: bloating and stuff after fall

[Guest guest]

Hi

You might want your mom to have her cortisol levels checked and a

complete thyroid panel. I had a car accident in July 2001 (hit by an

18-wheeler) that caused me to gain 20 lbs in 2 weeks! Only now are

the last 10 starting to come off. Good thing, because I just got

certified in nutrition and can't have people thinking that my

slightly increased weight is a reflection of the way I eat. Anyway,

bloating and weight gain seem to be a common occurance after

accidents or shocks like this. Unfortunately, I have not found any

info out there on how to deal with this condition. Even my excellent

doctor could not figure out the exact connection, but did support me

in the many therapies I tried.

In my case, I have significant edema in my legs. It was so bad that

until recently exercise actually led to an increase in weight! The

fluids just would not move. I had severe depression and bouts of

insomnia too.

My stomach did not feel bloated most of the time, but if I ate the

smallest thing, I would immediately feel stuffed and uncomfortable.

Hydrochloric acid seems to diminish after these types of events

causing food to just sit in the stomach. I used HCL supplements along

with some enzymes in the beginning, then dropped the enzymes, then

switched to raw cider vinegar over time.

The most recent thing I tried that seemed to help immensely are

breathing exercises and affirmations. It seemed to direct more oxygen

into the body to help relax the adrenals. Well, this is the short

version. Hope this lends some insight.

Good luck,

Adrienne

> Hi folks,

>

> My mom slipped and fell on her back and bumped her head a little

last

> week, and she thought she might have cracked a rib. She was having

> trouble with intense pain in the area if she laughed, coughed,

> sneezed, etc.

>

> Anyway, since that time she's had this off and on bloat, that gets

> real bad. She looks super-pregnant. And when its bad, it's pretty

> hard to the touch. The odd thing is that she has no pain associated

> with it! And no rumbling either. It does seem to get worse when

she

> eats, but there isn't a perfect association.

>

> Along with it, she's been having these weird spontaneous bouts of

> super-depression. She says she's not depressed about anything and

its

> hormonal. Like sometimes she'll suddenly not be able to sleep

because

> she's bawling her eyes out. And it will go away the next morning

for

> a few days, or hours, or whatever-- random.

>

> When I read something from Dangerous Grains about how quitting

smoking

> can make symptoms worsen, she noted that she'd cut down dramatically

> to 2 or 3 cigarettes a day recently.

>

> Any thoughts?

>

> Chris

[Guest guest]

Thanks Adrienne. I thought of having her take HCl, and I have some,

so I'll do that.

I had her take 2 tsp of CLO the yesterday when the depression came on.

I don't know if it did anything, but it seemed to, since the

depression seemed to disappear instead of get worse-- as far as I

could tell. So I'm going to have her take 3 tsp of CLO, divided

through the day.

I suspect we're both gluten intolerant. It's very difficult for her

to change her diet, though, even when she understands the importance

of it. She has very strong addictions to things.

Chris

[Guest guest]

>You might have her see a good chiropractor. I think there is a bone in the

>neck, if it is out can cause depression. About the bloating and stuff I

>have no idea why a fall might cause that. Perhaps a chiropractor can help

>there too.

>Irene

>

Irene,

This is very good advice. And Dr. Ken from chapter

leaders is a chiropractor who's very generous on giving advice like

this. You may want to ask him about it.

Deanna

[Guest guest]

On 7/16/05, Deanna Wagner <hl@...> wrote:

> I am sorry to hear about your Mum. Please give her my regards.

Ok, thanks.

> What makes you suspect you are both gluten intolerant? Bloating was a

> problem for me with gluten, but obviously her situation is some sudden

> reaction.

True, but she has a history of all kinds of bloat problems for

different reasons (once some kind of gastric dysbiosis, a gall bladder

issue another time, etc), sometimes but not always including severe

abdominal cramping. Her rampant life-long tooth decay, various gut

issues, impossible smoking addiction, multiple food intolerances

(eggs, dairy, nightshades, at a minimum), food addictions (beer,

Kettle chips, breads, etc, and .... ice?), general immune suppression

(shingles, at age 45), bed wetting as child, etc, all point that way,

at least enough to get tested, right?

And then to look at the two of us together, my baby exzema,

intolerance to nearly every food (bad enough to warrant an exclusive

APPLE JUICE diet!... kind of like the banana diet, right?), bad bed

wetting as child, eczema and gut problems when older, early smoking,

bad anxiety problems, sleeping problems, visual problems, etc, I cover

some of the other bases.

I'm not saying all this indicates we are gluten intolerant, because a

lot of these could have many other causes besides gluten intolerance.

But it's enough to lead to a hunch, isn't it?

> Do you make your own bread now? If so, it would be

> relatively simple to switch to GF stuff.

I've never made my own bread regularly. Recently, I've been using

European Style 100% Rye Sourdough, not sure the brand, from Whole

Foods. I don't really eat wheat, so I figured for me I'll try going

the rest of the way and getting rid of the rye and the beer.

By the way, with regard to the bloat, one thing that popped into our

heads was that cracking the rib could have irritated an organ near the

rib and caused it to inflame, pushing on her stomach from the back.

Chris

[Guest guest]

On 7/16/05, Rathbone <yvonr@...> wrote:

> Bloating after a fall might be a form of edema, bodily fluids collecting.

> This causes swelling without a lot of pain. If she's still experiencing

> the

> bloating, I'd go to the doctor to make sure there wasn't more internal

> injury than first suspected.

Thanks, I agree. She would have, but our doctor's office says they

have no idea how to deal with her PPO, whom they've never dealt with,

and asked her to find out what paperwork they need to do, and I guess

she was having trouble figuring it out. But if it keeps up it seems

like an emergency of first priority to me, at least just to make sure

there isn't an actual emergency.

Chris

[Guest guest]

I'm wondering if there is a problem with a meridian or trigger point.

--- In , Deanna Wagner <hl@s...>

wrote:

>

> >You might have her see a good chiropractor. I think there is a

bone in the

> >neck, if it is out can cause depression. About the bloating and

stuff I

> >have no idea why a fall might cause that. Perhaps a chiropractor

can help

> >there too.

> >Irene

> >

> Irene,

>

> This is very good advice. And Dr. Ken from chapter

> leaders is a chiropractor who's very generous on giving advice like

> this. You may want to ask him about it.

>

>

> Deanna

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Let me know if the chiroprator finds anything. I went to 7

chiropractors, an acupuncturist, a chiro who specializes in

craniosacral and Feldenkrais, 2 doctors of Oriental medicine and an

osteopath. Not only did none of them find anything abnormal that I

wasn't treated for before, they couldn't figure out what was the cause

of my edema or depression. I do know that doing what I have been doing

is finally moving my fire toxins I'd really like to know if anyone

from any discipline has any clues on this subject!!!

Adrienne

>

> >You might have her see a good chiropractor. I think there is a bone

in the

> >neck, if it is out can cause depression.