POLITICS: why we are what we are here.

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> From: implode7@...

>Subject: Re: Re: POLITICS - Adjudicating Pollution Disputes

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>this list is becoming a haven for right wing political extremists.

Calling and myself " right wing political extremists "

says much more about your politics than ours. I can't speak for the

other gentlemen, but if you're going to use spatial metaphors created

from the French Estates General of 1789, I want to be considered an

" up-winger " .

>It is enough to make me start to question the correctness behind its

>nutrtional premises. What is it about NT that seems to inspire such

>pro corporate nastiness? I dunno. I'm very disillusioned with this

>list right now.

Well, I'm not seeing much " pro-corporate nastiness. " Certainly nobody

here is pro-agribiz.

But there is a very good reason why, in general, people on this list

are more skeptical of government solutions than on other

pro-land/health/lifestyle-progressive lists you may be on: for many

of us, eating this way is ILLEGAL. In Ohio, it's easier to buy crack

cocaine than raw milk. In many places, it's difficult/impossible to

buy direct-from-farmer. On top of that, we pay the government to

propagandize for nutritional concepts we KNOW are misguided, and to

run a frankly insane system of agricultural subsidies and price

supports.

I am an individualist, and have no use for collectivism of any stripe

(International socialism, national socialism, the bourgeois Marxism

of the Democratic Party, theocracy, militarism). Thus I ALSO have no

use for corporations, which are legal creatures of government. But if

I support the principle that people have a natural right to exchange

their goods and labor, then the same right that allows me to buy raw

milk allows a large business to sell soy formula, and the right to

withhold labor for a higher price also applies to energy producers.

I don't have to like that, necessarily, but if I oppose " privilege "

(literally, private law: one law for me and another for thee), I have

to accept it.

So...I think politics on this list stems from, or should stem from

the difficulties we experience in walking this walk. Name calling,

cursing, and categorization doesn't help that process. So, in the

spirit of reconciliation... how would you change politics to help ME

eat a healthier diet? And what are the things we AGREE on?

--

Quick, USUM (ret.)

www.en.com/users/jaquick

" If you ever hear the term " deconstruction, " it will be from someone

interested in reconstruction. Specifically, they will be interested

in reconstructing the Berlin Wall. This will not be true of all your

professors. Some are not yet aware that the Berlin Wall has

fallen. " --Mike