Leptin? for Hormones and Endometriosis?

[Guest guest]

" There's a whole section in Mastering Leptin on no appetite and

anorexia. He talks about how when hormonal signaling is way off from

leptin resistance, even obese people have bodies that

are " hibernating " as if in a starvation situation. "

This sounds interesting. I did some googles about leptin and I think

this may be worth looking into for me because of my endometriosis. I

have always thought it might have something to do with

gonadotropin-releasing hormone (which I now know leptin stimulates).

However, leptin is in the body in proportion to fat? So I probably

don't have any...

How can I rebuild my leptin stores? Just eat fat?

Also, who wrote the book " Mastering Leptin " ?

Thanks!

Sincerely,

Lana M. Gibbons

[Guest guest]

> This sounds interesting. I did some googles about leptin and I think

> this may be worth looking into for me because of my endometriosis. I

> have always thought it might have something to do with

> gonadotropin-releasing hormone (which I now know leptin stimulates).

> However, leptin is in the body in proportion to fat? So I probably

> don't have any...

According to Byron s, the author of Mastering Leptin, leptin is

in proportion to eating and resting from eating. So, not eating means

low leptin. Overeating means high leptin. Eating constantly with

snacks means high leptin that never gets a chance to go down. And

then there's the problem of leptin resistance, where your body thinks

it's low so makes you want to eat, only really you have a lot of it

but the signals are not getting through.

> How can I rebuild my leptin stores? Just eat fat?

You have to restore the ebb and flow, the balance. Out of balance

could be like a backed-up stream. It's a matter of matching your

times of eating versus times of working off what you ate.

The prescription for fixing it is the " Five Rules " of the Leptin Diet

which you can get from googling. Very compatible with NN if I

understand it right.

> Also, who wrote the book " Mastering Leptin " ?

Byron s.

Cheers,

Connie

[Guest guest]

Hi Lana,

My sister had endo.

Doug Kaufmann says it has a fungal etiology. His site is:

http://www.knowthecause.com

Here is another page that talks about it:

http://drcranton.com/yeast/wmcrook.htm

I guess they tried all the conventional therapies on my sister, but

she ended up having a hysterectomy around age 30. She is 14 months

older than I am.

In contrast, I had a beautiful, healthy baby at age 40. The first

thing that comes to my mind that was different between us was that I

switched from margarine to butter at around age 32, not long after I

got married.

Sally Fallon and Ron Schmid say that animal fat is antifungal. So I

figure that getting plenty of natural animal fat is helpful in

preventing fungal infections.

Coconut oil is also strongly antifungal. So is castor oil. And cod

liver oil has a lot of vitamin A, which optimizes the immune system.

Fungal infections are an indication that one's immune system is not

healthy.

Vitamin D is antifungal and anticancer.

I figure we have so much trouble these days with fungal infections

and cancer because we have been avoiding animal fat so diligently for

the past 20+ years. Actually, people started telling each other to

avoid it since the mid- to late-1950s. Are you familiar with the

story of Ancel Keys?

> " There's a whole section in Mastering Leptin on no appetite and

> anorexia. He talks about how when hormonal signaling is way off

from

> leptin resistance, even obese people have bodies that

> are " hibernating " as if in a starvation situation. "

>

> This sounds interesting. I did some googles about leptin and I

think

> this may be worth looking into for me because of my endometriosis.

I

> have always thought it might have something to do with

> gonadotropin-releasing hormone (which I now know leptin

stimulates).

Our hormones are built on a substrate of cholesterol. Have you been

trying to avoid cholesterol?

> However, leptin is in the body in proportion to fat? So I probably

> don't have any...

>

> How can I rebuild my leptin stores? Just eat fat?

Perhaps.

But also, triglycerides block leptin signaling. And eating lots of

simple carbs makes lots of triglycerides. Here is page 2 of a 4 page

article that discusses this:

http://www.mercola.com/2001/jul/14/insulin2.htm

One remark from that page has really stuck with me: " ...one of the

easiest things we can do is lower triglyceride levels. It is so

simple. "

How long have you had endo?

[Guest guest]

,

This is very interesting. I have heard a lot of theories about the

cause of endo, but likening it to fungus? Thank you, I will review

this information carefully. I do recall my issues starting after my

first few yeast infections - and recently they took a dip for the

worse just after my last, which was a few months before my surgery

(the first one in years!).

> Doug Kaufmann says it has a fungal etiology. His site is:

>

> http://www.knowthecause.com

>

> Here is another page that talks about it:

>

> http://drcranton.com/yeast/wmcrook.htm

>

> I guess they tried all the conventional therapies on my sister, but

> she ended up having a hysterectomy around age 30. She is 14 months

> older than I am.

>

> In contrast, I had a beautiful, healthy baby at age 40. The first

> thing that comes to my mind that was different between us was that I

> switched from margarine to butter at around age 32, not long after I

> got married.

Congrats! They said everything was still intact after my laproscopy

but I am a long way off to having children. I hope I'm as lucky to be

able to have a baby at 40!

I've always ate butter... however I have eaten less butter over the

last few years than I did prior to my issues.

> Sally Fallon and Ron Schmid say that animal fat is antifungal. So I

> figure that getting plenty of natural animal fat is helpful in

> preventing fungal infections.

>

> Coconut oil is also strongly antifungal. So is castor oil. And cod

> liver oil has a lot of vitamin A, which optimizes the immune system.

> Fungal infections are an indication that one's immune system is not

> healthy.

>

> Vitamin D is antifungal and anticancer.

So is it the fat itself that is antifungal or is it the fat soluble

vitamins? I do know my diet has been low in A and D for a few years.

> I figure we have so much trouble these days with fungal infections

> and cancer because we have been avoiding animal fat so diligently for

> the past 20+ years. Actually, people started telling each other to

> avoid it since the mid- to late-1950s. Are you familiar with the

> story of Ancel Keys?

No, I'm not. But I will google it.

<trim>

> Our hormones are built on a substrate of cholesterol. Have you been

> trying to avoid cholesterol?

I wasn't trying, exactly... I was having problems eating anything in

general. Over the last few years I ate a lot of meat, but no fat and

no Vitamin A to help metabolize my protein. I also never bothered to

eat organs. Oops?

<trim>

> But also, triglycerides block leptin signaling. And eating lots of

> simple carbs makes lots of triglycerides. Here is page 2 of a 4 page

> article that discusses this:

>

> http://www.mercola.com/2001/jul/14/insulin2.htm

>

> One remark from that page has really stuck with me: " ...one of the

> easiest things we can do is lower triglyceride levels. It is so

> simple. "

>

> How long have you had endo?

I got the official diagnosis on 7/12 but I've been having

complications since I was 12. I always kind of " knew " because my Mom

has it.

Thank you for all of your help!

Sincerely,

Lana M. Gibbons

[Guest guest]

On 9/12/05, Lana Gibbons <lana.m.gibbons@...> wrote:

> > Sally Fallon and Ron Schmid say that animal fat is antifungal. So I

> > figure that getting plenty of natural animal fat is helpful in

> > preventing fungal infections.

> So is it the fat itself that is antifungal or is it the fat soluble

> vitamins? I do know my diet has been low in A and D for a few years.

It is the fat, but I don't think " animal " has anything to do with it.

Almost all fatty acids have found to be antifungal. The difference in

effectiveness largely has to do with solubility and chain length. On

the one hand, the shorter the chain length, the more soluble, and the

more actually reaches the target. On the other hand, the longer the

chain length, the more potent. The optimal balance seems to be

somewhere around 10-12 carbons. Apparently undecylenate is the

strongest antifungal, which is apparently synthetic, a modified

version of some fatty acid extracted from castor bean oil. Coconut

oil is the most anti-fungal natural oil (from a plant...), with capric

and caprylic being extremely potent but in very low concentrations,

and with lauric having only moderate potency but being in very high

concentrations.

The fat-solubles also benefit the immune system by other means, and if

your cholesterol is low animal fat tends to raise it, and blood

cholesterol protects against infections.

Chris

--

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Find out what your doctor isn't telling you:

http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com

[Guest guest]

> > So is it the fat itself that is antifungal or is it the fat

soluble

> > vitamins? I do know my diet has been low in A and D for a few

years.

>

> It is the fat, but I don't think " animal " has anything to do with

it.

> Almost all fatty acids have found to be antifungal. The difference

in

> effectiveness largely has to do with solubility and chain length.

Isn't the mechanism simply the fact that the problematic

microorganisms often have a lipid coat, and the fatty acids can break

into through the lipid coat and allow the organisms to be destroyed,

while water-soluble substances have no effect? (I wondered about

this for a long time.)

> On

> the one hand, the shorter the chain length, the more soluble, and

the

> more actually reaches the target. On the other hand, the longer the

> chain length, the more potent. The optimal balance seems to be

> somewhere around 10-12 carbons. Apparently undecylenate is the

> strongest antifungal, which is apparently synthetic, a modified

> version of some fatty acid extracted from castor bean oil.

The article I first read about undecylenic acid mentioned that it is

also found naturally in sweat.

[Guest guest]

Apparently undecylenate is the

> > strongest antifungal, which is apparently synthetic, a modified

> > version of some fatty acid extracted from castor bean oil.

>

>

> The article I first read about undecylenic acid mentioned that it is

> also found naturally in sweat.

,

Huh. A yoga teacher I used to study with was adamant that one should

never wipe the sweat from a workout off the skin, but rather rub it in.

B.

[Guest guest]

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>Huh. A yoga teacher I used to study with was adamant that one should

>never wipe the sweat from a workout off the skin, but rather rub it in.

Interesting. Yet many schools of thought hold that the body excretes

undesirable wastes via perspiration. Hence IR saunas and the like.

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[Guest guest]

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>Huh. A yoga teacher I used to study with was adamant that one should

>never wipe the sweat from a workout off the skin, but rather rub it in.

Just to clarify, the presence of detoxed wastes in perspiration in no way

contradicts the idea that the body also puts antifungals and the like in

perspiration to help ward off infections.

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[Guest guest]

> -

>

> >Huh. A yoga teacher I used to study with was adamant that one should

> >never wipe the sweat from a workout off the skin, but rather rub it in.

>

> Interesting. Yet many schools of thought hold that the body excretes

> undesirable wastes via perspiration. Hence IR saunas and the like.

,

Oh, saunas were definitely part of the program to excrete toxins, the

yoga/sweat thing was separate, but I don't remember the exact reason,

or if I ever inquired--he could be rather intimidating and had a

peculiar accent, to boot.

B.