Re: Elevated protein levels

[Guest guest]

Hi Pratick,

I don't have an answer to your question, but I have two more questions:

1) What is the reasoning for abstaining from protein? He's excreting

the protein, but does that mean he doesn't need it?

2) Butter and ghee are not protein foods. Why would he get rid of

butter and ghee? Ghee is pure fat.

Chris

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[Guest guest]

Hi Pratick

Sorry to hear about your dad.

The advice on diet given to him sounds to me like a short term

measure to treat the symptoms of whatever problem he has. This is

not sustainable in the long term - not only will he be ravenously

hungry, but he needs protein to survive. If he doesn't get it in his

diet, the body will start using protein muscle and bone tissue to

replace the cells of essential organs.

He should absolutely follow his doctor's advice, but should IMO push

for further tests to investigate what's wrong and once this is

treated, go back to a normal diet.

You're in Canada, aren't you? My parents moved there from France

earlier this year and so far haven't been impressed with the

healthcare they've received. I hope you have more luck than them

Jo

> Greetings,

>

> My dad (age: 65 yrs.) recently had a bad attack of viral flu that

left him extremely

> weak.

> It also did something to the kidneys because the Dr. found elevated

levels of protein in

> the urine.

> Technically speaking the albumin levels in urine are elevated (3+).

>

> The doctors are telling him to stop eating any foods containing

protein - animal or plant

> based.

> So no milk, eggs, butter/ghee, no meat.

> Even vegetable protein such as lentils, beans, etc. are banned.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Pratick:

I haven't been coming to the forum very frequently these days and I

am sort of jumping into this thread. Anyway I think I would like to

say something.

First question: is your father willing to accept his son´s, that is

your advice and therefore discontinue his medical treatment?

Second question: would he accept changes in his diet?

Third question: would your mother or the person who cooks for him and

looks after him agree to help him adopt a different routine?

Fourth question: what would your father think of fasting, not a very

long fast, though?

Fifth question: what is his usual diet these days?

My references about kidney disease point to the following steps:

1. The patient is asked to start the treatment with a one-day fast on

vegetable broth ou soup. In fact, it is a mono-diet rather than a

real fast.

2. If his or her condition permits, this initial fast could be

extended to a three-day period. He or she must rest at home during

the fast.

3. He or she will repeat this one-day fast on broth or soup every

week during three or four months.

4. He or she must have three meals a day - breakfast, lunch and

dinner, but no meal in-between. This is very important. Eating

between meals is very disruptive in terms of a proper digestion.

However, he or she may want to eat a little fresh fruit, as a snack,

in the afternoon, two hours before the evening meal at 7 PM.

5. He or she should avoid eating large quantities of food. For a

period he or she should eat less animal protein, but not avoid it

entirely. A good scheme would be (I presume your father is not a

vegetarian):

breakfast: one egg

lunch: 60g meat or chicken or fish

dinner: 60g chicken or fish

6. He or she should try to get organic food, chew well, eat in a

peaceful atmosphere and rest after each meal. Should avoid commercial

food, that is, eating in restaurants. Should increase his intake of

fresh vegetables.

7. He or she should avoid eating beans, nuts, dairy, giblets, offals,

preserved meats (ham).

8. He or she should reduce his or her daily intake of salt and

replace part of it with herbs.

9. He or she should consider drinking special herbal teas for the

kidneys and adopting methods to promote a more intense sweating

(please consult the Internet for herbal preparations and sweat-

promoting techniques. Sauna is one of them. But all of these

techniques must be employed with a lot of care and always gradually.

His heart condition must be taken in consideration, you know. Maybe

it´s advisable to talk with a specialist first.)

Well, Pratick, since you're living in different countries, so faraway

from each other, it must be difficult for you to pass on the

information to him and see if he is following it correctly. I hope

that you can find a way to help him and in particular that all or

some of these guidelines above prove helpful, if you trust that your

father can benefit from them.

Cheers,

José

> > This is

> > not sustainable in the long term - not only will he be ravenously

> > hungry, but he needs protein to survive. If he doesn't get it in

his

> > diet, the body will start using protein muscle and bone tissue to

> > replace the cells of essential organs.

>

> Exactly ! and that is my fear as well.

> Trouble is - most people are too scared to ignore doctor's advice.

>

> > You're in Canada, aren't you? My parents moved there from France

> > earlier this year and so far haven't been impressed with the

> > healthcare they've received. I hope you have more luck than them

>

> Yes, I live in Canada but my parents live in India.

> The health care system there is a mixture of Canadian style public

health care and US

> style private health care.

> The public system is in shambles and most people go to private

practioners.

> My dad is also consulting a private practioner.

>

> If there is anything common between public sector doctors and

private ones - it is their

> opinion about fats and diet.

> They agree unanimously that fat is to be blamed for everything.

> Skip the trial, the judge and the jury - just shoot the fat !

>

> Does anyone have any experience with reversing kidney disease?

> Or any advice on what kind of diet is the best bet?

>

> Thanks,

> Pratick

>

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