Re: Refridgeration of vaccines

[Guest guest]

sigh this is such an old question gosh I can't belive you ask this .

if you have room a full size frig does the freezer adn frig both

if you have a frig that is dorm size and need a freezer go to

compactappliance .com and buy from avanti a freezer / frig machine.Dorm size

machine, can sit on floor or counter - it can do either .150.00

Refridgeration of vaccines

Probably an old question: any suggestion as to what kind of fridge to

buy for vaccinations and where to buy it?

Thanks, Marius

[Guest guest]

You need one that can be locked. I splurged

and got one with a push button lock so I’m not always hunting for keys. I

really like it. Costs around 900$, so is pricey.

As far as cryo- HIstofreeze is good for

low cost. But I eventually got the whole nitro set-up. Seems to work better,

and in Arizona there are lots of AK’s.

T. Ellsworth, MD

9377 E. Bell Road, Suite 175

sdale, Az 85260

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Marius Laumans

Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 7:38

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Refridgeration of vaccines

Probably an old question: any suggestion as to what

kind of fridge to

buy for vaccinations and where to buy it?

Thanks, Marius

[Guest guest]

PS- you can get a dorm sized one, but

needs to be a professional grade. The dorm type for college kids is not

consistant in cooling. Oh, and you need to do temperature checks too.

T. Ellsworth, MD

9377 E. Bell Road, Suite 175

sdale, Az 85260

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Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 7:53

AM

To:

Subject: RE:

Refridgeration of vaccines

You need one that can be locked. I splurged and got one with a push

button lock so I’m not always hunting for keys. I really like it. Costs

around 900$, so is pricey.

As far as cryo- HIstofreeze is good for low cost. But I eventually

got the whole nitro set-up. Seems to work better, and in Arizona there are lots

of AK’s.

T. Ellsworth, MD

9377 E. Bell Road,

Suite 175

sdale, Az 85260

From:

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On Behalf Of Marius Laumans

Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 7:38

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Subject:

Refridgeration of vaccines

Probably

an old question: any suggestion as to what kind of fridge to

buy for vaccinations and where to buy it?

Thanks, Marius

[Guest guest]

I got a countertop lockable temperature-gauged no-freezer cube refrigerator for around $250 from compactappliances.com (mentioned by Jean). Any freezer needs to have a separate door to be reliable, plus by not having a freezer in a compact refrigerator you don't need to defrost it periodically. Keep in mind that the only vaccines hat need to be frozen are Varivax and Zostavax. I only order these on a demand basis, and I store them in my regular-size breakroon refrigerator-freezer.

Re: cryotherapy, I would prefer LN2 but don't have the volume to support it. I first used Histofreeze but found that it expired before I used it all. I then got Verruca-Freeze and am much happier with it both in how it's used and its much longer shelf-life.

Marty

PS- you can get a dorm sized one, but needs to be a professional grade. The dorm type for college kids is not consistant in cooling. Oh, and you need to do temperature checks too.

T. Ellsworth, MD

9377 E. Bell Road, Suite 175

sdale

, Az 85260

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Ellsworth

Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 7:53 AMTo:

Subject: RE: Refridgeration of vaccines

You need one that can be locked. I splurged and got one with a push button lock so I'm not always hunting for keys. I really like it. Costs around 900$, so is pricey.

As far as cryo- HIstofreeze is good for low cost. But I eventually got the whole nitro set-up. Seems to work better, and in Arizona there are lots of AK's.

T. Ellsworth, MD

9377 E. Bell Road, Suite 175

sdale

, Az 85260

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Marius Laumans

Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 7:38 AMTo:

Subject: Refridgeration of vaccines

Probably an old question: any suggestion as to what kind of fridge tobuy for vaccinations and where to buy it?Thanks, Marius

[Guest guest]

I have never heard of the mandatory locking refridgerator. It just has to be separate from the one that holds food and only contain vaccines or medical supplies. It should be more reliable than a dorm fridge. I've gotten the under the counter "bar" type fridge.

Kathy Saradarian, MDBranchville, NJwww.qualityfamilypractice.comSolo 4/03, PP 4/03Low staff

RE: Refridgeration of vaccines

You need one that can be locked. I splurged and got one with a push button lock so I’m not always hunting for keys. I really like it. Costs around 900$, so is pricey.

As far as cryo- HIstofreeze is good for low cost. But I eventually got the whole nitro set-up. Seems to work better, and in Arizona there are lots of AK’s.

T. Ellsworth, MD

9377 E. Bell Road, Suite 175

sdale, Az 85260

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Marius LaumansSent: Friday, August 10, 2007 7:38 AMTo: Subject: Refridgeration of vaccines

Probably an old question: any suggestion as to what kind of fridge tobuy for vaccinations and where to buy it?Thanks, Marius

[Guest guest]

>

> Probably an old question: any suggestion as to what kind of fridge to

> buy for vaccinations and where to buy it?

>

> Thanks, Marius

I bought a fridge at Lowes for $200+ in 12/05. It has a separate

freezer and refrigerator compartment, though very rarely do I have

anything stored in the freezer - just Varivax and Zostavax here and

there.

, MD

Trinity Medical Care, PC

Virgnia Beach, VA

>

[Guest guest]

Lowe's less than $100. Dorm size and an interior thermometer. Keep a temperature log. Bob ForesterMarius Laumans wrote: Probably an old question: any suggestion as to what kind of fridge tobuy for vaccinations and where to buy it?Thanks, Marius

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[Guest guest]

Don't skip with a dorm sized refrigerator for your vaccines. It won't hold the temperature accurately enough, especially if you have any frozen vaccines. A full sized is several hundred dollars more, but given the cost of vaccines you would be a penny wise and pound foolish to compromise with a dorm sized frig.

Bridget Early

Namaste,

Ashland, MO

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[Guest guest]

with all due respect that isn't true for me

The state supplies me those thermometers wit the glycoerol and teh avanti

freezer or frigcombo holds my varicella fine.Have had it for two yrs

My other frig is a 4 cu ft counter top size- I do nuse its freezer for

vaccine

sorry to disagree.

Re: Refridgeration of vaccines

Don't skip with a dorm sized refrigerator for your vaccines. It won't

hold the temperature accurately enough, especially if you have any

frozen vaccines. A full sized is several hundred dollars more, but

given the cost of vaccines you would be a penny wise and pound foolish

to compromise with a dorm sized frig.

Bridget Early

Namaste,

Ashland, MO

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[Guest guest]

with all due respect that isn't true for me

The state supplies me those thermometers wit the glycoerol and teh avanti

freezer or frigcombo holds my varicella fine.Have had it for two yrs

My other frig is a 4 cu ft counter top size- I do nuse its freezer for

vaccine

sorry to disagree.

Re: Refridgeration of vaccines

Don't skip with a dorm sized refrigerator for your vaccines. It won't

hold the temperature accurately enough, especially if you have any

frozen vaccines. A full sized is several hundred dollars more, but

given the cost of vaccines you would be a penny wise and pound foolish

to compromise with a dorm sized frig.

Bridget Early

Namaste,

Ashland, MO

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[Guest guest]

Sorry, I also disagree, used a dorm size refridgerator for 4 yr here, and it just died, am using the little glycerin thing, and an alarm/lets me know when is or has been out of range.

Also just got a bigger refridgerator with separate freezer, I like to keep my lunch, frozen meals, only cost me $350 at Lowes, had a scratch.

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--------- Re: Refridgeration of vaccinesDon't skip with a dorm sized refrigerator for your vaccines. It won'thold the temperature accurately enough, especially if you have anyfrozen vaccines. A full sized is several hundred dollars more, butgiven the cost of vaccines you would be a penny wise and pound foolishto compromise with a dorm sized frig. Bridget EarlyNamaste,Ash

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so you mean the dorm size one died and you had to buy agian so you

bought bigger?

Yeah that'll probably happen Thing s are going too well.

RE: Re: Refridgeration of vaccines

Sorry, I also disagree, used a dorm size refridgerator for 4 yr here,

and it just died, am using the little glycerin thing, and an alarm/lets

me know when is or has been out of range.

Also just got a bigger refridgerator with separate freezer, I like to

keep my lunch, frozen meals, only cost me $350 at Lowes, had a scratch.

Cote

Four Corners Family Medicine

--------- Re: Refridgeration of vaccines

Don't skip with a dorm sized refrigerator for your vaccines. It won't

hold the temperature accurately enough, especially if you have any

frozen vaccines. A full sized is several hundred dollars more, but

given the cost of vaccines you would be a penny wise and pound foolish

to compromise with a dorm sized frig.

Bridget Early

Namaste,< BR>Ash land, MO

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[Guest guest]

You do all know that vaccines and food can

not be stored in the same refridgerator/freezer? It is an OSHA violation.

I also would not trust a dorm frig (we are

talking the $75 models. They don’t stay cold enough. None of the built

in freezers are cold enough for the frozen vaccines. You need a dedicated

freezer.

Kathy Saradarian, MD

Branchville, NJ

www.qualityfamilypractice.com

Solo low-staff practice since

4/03

In practice since 9/90

Practice Partner User since 5/03

[Guest guest]

Vaccines need to be stored separate, no

foods or drinks

T. Ellsworth, MD

9377 E. Bell Road, Suite 175

sdale, Az 85260

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Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007

12:21 PM

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Re: Refridgeration of vaccines

so you mean the dorm size one died and you had to buy

agian so you

bought bigger?

Yeah that'll probably happen Thing s are going too well.

RE: Re: Refridgeration of vaccines

Sorry, I also disagree, used a dorm size refridgerator for 4 yr here,

and it just died, am using the little glycerin thing, and an alarm/lets

me know when is or has been out of range.

Also just got a bigger refridgerator with separate freezer, I like to

keep my lunch, frozen meals, only cost me $350 at Lowes, had a scratch.

Cote

Four Corners Family Medicine

--------- Re: Refridgeration of vaccines

Don't skip with a dorm sized refrigerator for your vaccines. It won't

hold the temperature accurately enough, especially if you have any

frozen vaccines. A full sized is several hundred dollars more, but

given the cost of vaccines you would be a penny wise and pound foolish

to compromise with a dorm sized frig.

Bridget Early

Namaste,< BR>Ash land, MO

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