Guest guest Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 A 100 words or less?!?! " What good evidence, if any, is there for the autism treatment connection? " I don't know if you call anecdotal evidence " good " , but there are plenty of people that reversed autism by doing mercury chelation. I personally think the jury is still out... Does mercury cause autism? Or does mercury poisoning mimic autism? Or do people with autism have problem excreting mercury and wind up with problems from mercury in vaccines? Or does the baby get autism in eutero do to toxins or nutritional deficiencies in the mother? My bottom line: Think twice about shooting toxins into an infant. Dan ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 23 Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 01:58:20 -0500 From: Tom Jeanne <t.l.jeanne@...> Subject: NY Times on Autism I'm not really in the loop on the autism treatment connection, but this article sure makes it sound pretty dubious. Any comments? I will say that it's a shame that they quote a scientist who calls it " voodoo science " , since they attribute no evidence to support his name-calling, just his vague claim that you shouldn't start with the " answers " and work backwards, which seems untrue to me in the first place. The rest of the article seems quite damning, but I understand that one would have to do a lot of reading of primary research sources to actually come to a conclusion. So the article just brings one question to the fore for me: what good evidence, if any, is there for the autism treatment connection? Answer that in 100 words or less. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/25/science/25autism.html?ex=1120536000 & en=9d5 af0a7834de351 & ei=5070 & emc=eta1 Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 Does anyone know what they replaced Thimerosol with when they did take it out of vaccines? And does anyone know how they culture the various organisms that they use in vaccines? --- In , Tom Jeanne <t.l.jeanne@g...> wrote: > I'm not really in the loop on the autism treatment connection, but this article sure makes it sound pretty dubious. Any comments? I will say that it's a shame that they quote a scientist who calls it " voodoo science " , since they attribute no evidence to support his name-calling, just his vague claim that you shouldn't start with the " answers " and work backwards, which seems untrue to me in the first place. The rest of the article seems quite damning, but I understand that one would have to do a lot of reading of primary research sources to actually come to a conclusion. So the article just brings one question to the fore for me: what good evidence, if any, is there for the autism- mercury connection? Answer that in 100 words or less. > > http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/25/science/25autism.html? ex=1120536000 & en=9d5af0a7834de351 & ei=5070 & emc=eta1 > > Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 On 6/28/05, <toyotaokiec@...> wrote: > Does anyone know what they replaced Thimerosol with when they did take > it out of vaccines? A double dose of aluminum? No, I don't know, but mercury isn't the only metal used as a preservative in vaccines! Tom, I agree that the line of questioning is backwards. Shouldn't we err on the side of caution and not inject mercury into an infant's bloodstream? If the issue is up in the air, we should assume the mercury might be detrimental. And what parent, if told what was going on, would offer their baby as the guinea pig for the experiment? I wonder how many parents know these vaccines contain mercury? Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 Mercury is being replaced by aluminium and formaldehyde. That's like replacing NutraSweet with Splenda. More info: http://tinyurl.com/8fcmr ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 13 Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 18:01:18 -0000 From: " " <toyotaokiec@...> Subject: Re: NY Times on Autism Does anyone know what they replaced Thimerosol with when they did take it out of vaccines? And does anyone know how they culture the various organisms that they use in vaccines? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 Oh goody. So now we've got aluminum to contaminate the brain and formaldehyde to kill off the beneficial bacteria. Same old same old, huh? No wonder in some studies there was a higher incidence of autism with the non-Thimerosol vaccines. :-( So what can be used to chelate aluminum? And does formaldehyde accumulate? > Mercury is being replaced by aluminium and formaldehyde. That's like > replacing NutraSweet with Splenda. > > More info: > http://tinyurl.com/8fcmr > > > ______________________________________________________________________ __ > > Message: 13 > Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 18:01:18 -0000 > From: " " <toyotaokiec@y...> > Subject: Re: NY Times on Autism > > Does anyone know what they replaced Thimerosol with when they did take > it out of vaccines? > > And does anyone know how they culture the various organisms that they > use in vaccines? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 Oh goody. So now we've got aluminum to contaminate the brain and formaldehyde to kill off the beneficial bacteria. Same old same old, huh? No wonder in some studies there was a higher incidence of autism with the non-Thimerosol vaccines. :-( So what can be used to chelate aluminum? And does formaldehyde accumulate? > Mercury is being replaced by aluminium and formaldehyde. That's like > replacing NutraSweet with Splenda. > > More info: > http://tinyurl.com/8fcmr > > > ______________________________________________________________________ __ > > Message: 13 > Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 18:01:18 -0000 > From: " " <toyotaokiec@y...> > Subject: Re: NY Times on Autism > > Does anyone know what they replaced Thimerosol with when they did take > it out of vaccines? > > And does anyone know how they culture the various organisms that they > use in vaccines? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 EDTA can be used to chelate aluminum. I'm not sure about formaldehyde accumulating. A quick search yielded conflicting results.... Source 1: " Formaldehyde does not accumulate in the body, since it is readily metabolized to formic acid, and then to carbon dioxide and water. " Source 2: " although some of the formaldehyde appears to accumulate in the body... Chronic formaldehyde exposure at very low doses has been shown to cause immune system and nervous system changes and damage as well as headaches, general poor health, irreversible genetic damage, and a number of other serious health problems " Dan Oh goody. So now we've got aluminum to contaminate the brain and formaldehyde to kill off the beneficial bacteria. Same old same old, huh? No wonder in some studies there was a higher incidence of autism with the non-Thimerosol vaccines. :-( So what can be used to chelate aluminum? And does formaldehyde accumulate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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