Re: RE: POLITICS - Anger management (Was: Chris andmerotting in hell)

March 5, 2005

>Yeah, but the fertle crescent became that way from Agriculture, not hunting
>and gathering.
___

[Chris's reply]

What about the mass extinction of the big animals at the hands of hunters?
Also, I recall learning of massive pollution and resource extinction caused
by various sorts of mining by pre-agriculture humans in a world history class
but I can't remember any details.

Chris

March 5, 2005

Yeah, but the fertle crescent became that way from Agriculture, not hunting

and gathering.

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> Date: 3/5/2005 2:43:36 PM

> Subject: RE: RE: POLITICS - Anger management (Was: Chris

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> Robin-

>

> >Not like us though

> >

> > > Actually, it's a romantic myth that native peoples exclusively worked

> >with

> > > the earth (whatever exactly that means anyway). They radically

changed

> > > their environments too.

>

> More than you'd think. The fertile crescent didn't become desert in

modern

> times, and there are South and Central American examples which are just

as

> dramatic.

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March 5, 2005

Yes I know of the mass extinction of the larger animals, there is evidence

they were hunted to extinction, yes. But the animals that were left were

better equipped to deal with humans until guns came along. I am looking at

the Native Americans (not all of them) for the basis of my statements. they

seemed to be living with a MUCH lighter footprint than we do, and they

seemed to have respect for the earth. And seemed to be gettingalong just

fine until we happened on the scene.

Personally I would rather live that way, than in this Illusion of

freedom we live in now. We are dependent babies, having to play a man made

game in order to survive. We are like domesticated cows wading through our

own pollution.

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> Date: 3/5/2005 7:15:05 PM

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> >Yeah, but the fertle crescent became that way from Agriculture, not
hunting
> >and gathering.
> ___
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> What about the mass extinction of the big animals at the hands of
hunters?
> Also, I recall learning of massive pollution and resource extinction
caused
> by various sorts of mining by pre-agriculture humans in a world history
class
> but I can't remember any details.
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> Chris
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March 5, 2005

We can learn from mistakes of the past, right? Maybe not very well in a

collective sense, but I know personally to be more aware of what the

environment is capable of handling from people. I damn well know it cant

handle any more of what is happening now. I know so many people with cancer

as it is. You just wait, its not going to be pretty.

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> Date: 3/5/2005 7:15:05 PM

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> >Yeah, but the fertle crescent became that way from Agriculture, not
hunting
> >and gathering.
> ___
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> [Chris's reply]
>
> What about the mass extinction of the big animals at the hands of
hunters?
> Also, I recall learning of massive pollution and resource extinction
caused
> by various sorts of mining by pre-agriculture humans in a world history
class
> but I can't remember any details.
>
> Chris
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March 5, 2005

> I am looking at

>the Native Americans (not all of them) for the basis of my statements. they

>seemed to be living with a MUCH lighter footprint than we do, and they

>seemed to have respect for the earth. And seemed to be gettingalong just

>fine until we happened on the scene.

>

> Personally I would rather live that way, than in this Illusion of

>freedom we live in now. We are dependent babies, having to play a man made

>game in order to survive. We are like domesticated cows wading through our

>own pollution.

>

Good simile. Unfortunately, many see solutions in this nutrient or that

food, not a holistic approach to living in general. There are so many

factors to health besides diet. Is there any organization that is going

beyond Price's nutritional message to a " lifestyle of the natives " advocacy?

Deanna

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