RE: Saturated Fats & Gallbladder

[Guest guest]

>

>Anyone out there have problems with all the saturated fats and

>gallbladder problems? Anyone have gallbladder problems when you

>occasionally eat processed fats? Or have problems going from a

>lowfat diet to a diet rich in saturated fats? Or anyone who's had

>major gallbladder problems in the past but now don't have any

>problems after switching to a diet high in saturated fats? I'd love

>to hear some testamonials.

>

>Rhonda

I've heard 2 issues with the gall bladder:

1. Folks on a low fat diet who suddenly eat high fat (end of diet craziness).

OK, so don't do that.

2. Folks who have upper intestinal damage. The damage stops the gall bladder

from emptying, because the end of the tube closes up. Being in the groups I'm

in, the cause I hear about is gluten intolerance, but there could be others.

I did read a website once " not without my gallbladder! " about a gluten issue

with the gallbladder, and have heard some testimonials since. I don't have them

handy to quote though.

I have not read, however, about gall bladder problems from folks eating

processed fats " in general " . Like, the Inuit don't seme to have any great

increase in gall bladder issues on their native diet.

Heidi Jean

[Guest guest]

I've worked with a number of people that have made the switch from a

traditional American diet to NT diet and a year or two down the road they start

having problems with their gall bladder. It's not that the diet is incorrect

it's that the gall bladder hasn't been needed for so long it's doesn't know

what

to do with the good fats. I think it's really important to support the

digestive system as a whole when making the shift. Jump start the organs that

need support so your body gets up and running appropriately.

[Guest guest]

> I've heard 2 issues with the gall bladder:

>

> 1. Folks on a low fat diet who suddenly eat high fat (end of diet

craziness). OK, so don't do that.

>

> 2. Folks who have upper intestinal damage. The damage stops the

gall bladder from emptying, because the end of the tube closes up.

Being in the groups I'm in, the cause I hear about is gluten

intolerance, but there could be others.

>

> I did read a website once " not without my gallbladder! " about a

gluten issue with the gallbladder, and have heard some testimonials

since. I don't have them handy to quote though.

>

> I have not read, however, about gall bladder problems from folks

eating processed fats " in general " . Like, the Inuit don't seme to

have any great increase in gall bladder issues on their native diet.

Heidi,

My brother had his gallbladder removed a few years ago. His diet had

always been processed as well as saturated fats(but from factory

farmed animals). He went on the Atkins diet, lost weight but soured

on it when it caused his gallbladder to act up. I've wondered if it

was due to his years of junk fats/oils.

My Mom (73) has had cronic problems over the years with her

gallbladder. Usually not a severe problem. This last summer however

Dad kept bringing in commercial ice cream. She was also heavy into

the coconut oil, using it fairly liberally. When she got a rather

severe attack she (rightly IMO) blamed the ice cream. She's still

using the coconut oil, but won't touch the raw cream. I get the

cream skimmed off the top of her gallon of raw milk. She uses the

milk pretty much only for kefir. I really don't think the cream

would hurt her gallbladder any. She's just afraid of a gallbladder

problem that will send her to the hospital.

Others at work, I don't know what their eating habits are, but I

suspect junk fats more than anything. I know when I eat junk fats,

they don't digest - I belch them for up to 12 hours and am running to

the bathroom. So I can only imagine that junk fats must play a large

role in gallbladder problems.

Rhonda

off to get ready for work

[Guest guest]

I used to eat a low fat diet and sometimes eating massive amounts bad fat. I

had a gallbladder attack... Luckily I didn't go to the hospital and get it

removed. I did a gallbladder cleanse/flush to get it back into shape. I then

slowly added good saturated fats back into my diet. It's been 10 years since

I had my gallbladder attack... And it's been about 5 years of eating

according to WAPF. I feel great and haven't noticed any issues with my

gallbladder.

-Dan

>> Anyone out there have problems with all the saturated fats and

>> gallbladder problems? Anyone have gallbladder problems when you

>> occasionally eat processed fats? Or have problems going from a

>> lowfat diet to a diet rich in saturated fats? Or anyone who's had

>> major gallbladder problems in the past but now don't have any

>> problems after switching to a diet high in saturated fats?

[Guest guest]

When I switched to whole milk from 2% milk in January 2002, about 6

weeks after the change I had a pain for a few hours on a Friday

evening after work. I went to bed early and slept fine. The next

morning I saw a little, white ball floating in the john. Looking

back, I decided it must have been a gallstone. I have not had any

more incidents like that.

[Guest guest]

(Rhonda wrote):

>

>Anyone out there have problems with all the saturated fats and

>gallbladder problems? Anyone have gallbladder problems when you

>occasionally eat processed fats? Or have problems going from a

>lowfat diet to a diet rich in saturated fats? Or anyone who's had

>major gallbladder problems in the past but now don't have any

>problems after switching to a diet high in saturated fats? I'd love

>to hear some testamonials.

>

(Heidi wrote):

I've heard 2 issues with the gall bladder:

1. Folks on a low fat diet who suddenly eat high fat (end of diet craziness).

OK, so don't do that.

2. Folks who have upper intestinal damage. The damage stops the gall bladder

from emptying, because the end of the tube closes up. Being in the groups I'm

in, the cause I hear about is gluten intolerance, but there could be others.

I did read a website once " not without my gallbladder! " about a gluten issue

with the gallbladder, and have heard some testimonials since. I don't have them

handy to quote though.

I have not read, however, about gall bladder problems from folks eating

processed fats " in general " . Like, the Inuit don't seme to have any great

increase in gall bladder issues on their native diet.

(Rebekah question):

I'm curious about the link between gluten intolerance and gallbladder

problems. Reason being - my sister, whom I strongly suspect is gluten

intolerant, has recently had her gallbladder removed. Her history is full of

typical gluten intolerant symptoms, including weight gain, food and

environmental allergies, depression, etc. But, she also recently delivered her

first baby. I wondering about the connection between gluten and gallbladder

problems; anybody with any case studies to cite on this? Or, could it be more

likely related to the stress of a pregnancy and a SAD diet?

[Guest guest]

>Others at work, I don't know what their eating habits are, but I

>suspect junk fats more than anything. I know when I eat junk fats,

>they don't digest - I belch them for up to 12 hours and am running to

>the bathroom. So I can only imagine that junk fats must play a large

>role in gallbladder problems.

>

>Rhonda

>off to get ready for work

I tend to agree. The more I read the more I think the fat from commercial cows

isn't a good thing, for whatever reason. I do have a relative who switched from

factory farmed beef to factory farmed pork. (they won't eat home grown, it's a

long story). A lot of health problems cleared up doing that switch. I don't know

WHAT the factor is that worked in that case, but I'm guessing that it's the

factor that shows up in these " animal fat is bad " studies. We eat tons of beef

fat here, but it's all grass fed and doesn't seem to cause any problems at all.

Heidi Jean

[Guest guest]

> (Rebekah question):

>

> I'm curious about the link between gluten intolerance and gallbladder

problems. Reason being - my sister, whom I strongly suspect is gluten

intolerant, has recently had her gallbladder removed. Her history is full of

typical gluten intolerant symptoms, including weight gain, food and

environmental allergies, depression, etc. But, she also recently delivered her

first baby. I wondering about the connection between gluten and gallbladder

problems; anybody with any case studies to cite on this? Or, could it be more

likely related to the stress of a pregnancy and a SAD diet?

There's *lots* of studies out there: Google on " gall bladder gluten " . Here's

one:

http://www.celiac.com/st_prod.html?p_prodid=121

Gall bladder disease or malfunction is often associated with celiac disease. It

can cause pain in the upper right quadrant of the abdomen, just at the lowest

rib on the right side. In one study of 1300 celiacs in Canada, 9% indicated that

gall stones were the earliest presentation, sometimes followed by many years

prior to correct diagnosis of their celiac disease. In another report, Dr.

Kozlowska indicated that 13 of the 41 newly diagnosed celiacs she investigated

were suffering from atresia, a condition which is a partial or complete blockage

of the bile duct.

CCK (cholecystokinin) is the hormone responsible for gall bladder contraction.

The bulk of this hormone is produced in the duodenum.

Active celiac disease would be likely, then, to cause a reduction or a cessation

of duodenal production of CCK. A radiologist in Hungary is currently researching

this problem. In private correspondence, one gastroenterologist reports having

found (accidentally) a gallstone in a 12 year old girl who had active celiac

disease.

Heidi Jean

[Guest guest]

> I used to eat a low fat diet and sometimes eating massive amounts bad fat. I

> had a gallbladder attack... Luckily I didn't go to the hospital and get it

> removed. I did a gallbladder cleanse/flush to get it back into shape.

Here are some good links dealing with gallbladder and liver flushes:

http://curezone.com/gallstones/default.asp

http://www.curezone.com/cleanse/liver/

http://curezone.com/gallstones/faq.asp

Bruce