Re: tamales

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the receipe... If its a Lot of work, then maybe I will just keep buying them already made ) But on one of my real good days, I would like to try to make them once... Thanks again...

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[Guest guest]

Did anyone ever post a tamale recipe? I checked the files and couldn't

find one.

Thanks,

Amy

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No one did. We teased those taste buds and then dropped the ball. I am

staying away from grains now, but tamales are a big Christmas treat for

Mexican families traditionally. Try this and use lard rather than

shortening:

http://www.jalapenocafe.com/tamale.html

Personally, I am dreaming of an Italian Christmas and may try to make

nut-based lasagna pasta, among other treats. I would sure appreciate

any tips from you pasta makers out there in NN land. Wish me luck in

any case.

Deanna

" Determine that the thing can and shall be done, and then we shall find

the way. " ~ Abraham Lincoln

[Guest guest]

Hi Amy,

I probably dropped the ball on that one. :-)

Is there any type of tamale you're particularly interested in? For example,

traditional Tex-Mex pork tamales, vegetarian, etc.?

Please let me know and I'll be happy to dig up and post some recipes.

Renée :-)

----- Original Message -----

Did anyone ever post a tamale recipe? I checked the files and

couldn't find one.

Thanks,

Amy

[Guest guest]

> Is there any type of tamale you're particularly interested in? For

> example, traditional Tex-Mex pork tamales, vegetarian, etc.?

VEGETARIAN?! Where do you think you ARE!

Lynn S.

shuddering at the thought of a tofu tamale...a tofamale? You know

someone's out there working on one...

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http://www.siprelle.com * http://www.thenewhomemaker.com

http://www.democracyfororegon.com * http://www.knitting911.net

[Guest guest]

Hi Lynn,

LOL...ooops....should have said " vegetable " ! :-b

Actually tamales with a filling of black beans or spinach are fantastic...just

switches them entree to side dish!

Truth be told, I like tofu in stir-fry and such...but, dang, tofu is tofu...not

hot dogs, not turkey, not tamales!

Around here a big holiday fad is the Turducken -- a chicken inside a duck inside

a turkey, all deboned -- three meats in one! Have I redeemed myself????

Whew, that was a close one! ;-)

Renée :-)

VEGETARIAN?! Where do you think you ARE!

Lynn S.

shuddering at the thought of a tofu tamale...a tofamale? You know

someone's out there working on one...

[Guest guest]

> Actually tamales with a filling of black beans or spinach are

> fantastic...just switches them entree to side dish!

Oh, I know. I love almost anything in a tamale. I was teasing.

Lynn S.

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Lynn Siprelle * web developer, writer, mama, fiber junky

http://www.siprelle.com * http://www.thenewhomemaker.com

http://www.democracyfororegon.com * http://www.knitting911.net

[Guest guest]

> Hi Lynn,

>

> LOL...ooops....should have said " vegetable " ! :-b

>

> Actually tamales with a filling of black beans or spinach are

> fantastic...just switches them entree to side dish!

>

> Truth be told, I like tofu in stir-fry and such...but, dang, tofu is

> tofu...not hot dogs, not turkey, not tamales!

>

> Around here a big holiday fad is the Turducken -- a chicken inside a

> duck inside a turkey, all deboned -- three meats in one! Have I

> redeemed myself????

>

> Whew, that was a close one! ;-)

>

> Renée :-)

>

> VEGETARIAN?! Where do you think you ARE!

>

>

>

> Lynn S.

> shuddering at the thought of a tofu tamale...a tofamale? You know

> someone's out there working on one...

> -----------------------------------------------

Lynn & Renée,

Don't forget the dessert tamales! I suppose meat could be optional, but

probably not unless spiced correctly. Speaking of sweets, I usually

always add 2 tablespoons of honey to my tamale dough to bring out a

sweeter corn taste, no matter what the filling contains.

Deanna

[Guest guest]

:I probably dropped the ball on that one. :-)

:

:Is there any type of tamale you're particularly interested in? For example,

traditional Tex-Mex pork tamales, vegetarian, etc.?

:

:Please let me know and I'll be happy to dig up and post some recipes.

:

:Renée :-)

Is it too late to ask for a tamale recipe that includes huitlecoche?

Darrell

[Guest guest]

>Around here a big holiday fad is the Turducken -- a chicken inside a duck

inside a turkey, all deboned -- three meats in one! Have I redeemed myself????

Oooh, so have you MADE one? I deboned a goose for the first time

this year and stuffed it and it was sooo amazing ... I'm considering

a Turduken to amaze the locals ... I suppose it would be more amazing

if you grew the ingredients personally ...

Heidi Jean

The trouble with the world is that the

stupid are cocksure and the

intelligent are full of doubt. -Bertrand

[Guest guest]

Hi Darrell,

Is it too late to ask for a tamale recipe that includes huitlecoche?

Darrell

Well now that's the first time I've ever heard of huitlecoche...and what an

interesting thing it seems to be! :-)

My cookbook does indeed have a recipe but it's terribly long. Will be happy to

scan and post in the Files section though.

Will that okay copyright-wise, as long as credit is given to the source?

Moderator?

Let me know! Renée :-)

[Guest guest]

On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 09:44:21 -0600, Renée Bedford <salieri@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Darrell,

>

> Is it too late to ask for a tamale recipe that includes huitlecoche?

>

> Darrell

>

>

Darrell,

two recipes--neither complex although one is for quesadilla filling

but would probably make a nice tamal.

B.

http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/recipes/recipe/0,1977,FOOD_9936_12975,00.html

http://www.recipe-source.com/ethnic/americas/mexican/huitlacoche1.html

[Guest guest]

Hi Heidi

Made one? No way! :-) Got a *fantastic* Cajun store right down the street.

Oh yeah, your guests will be amazed!

I'm totally into masochistic labor-intensive kitchen activity, but this is not

even on my To Do list! :-)

What kind of stuffing are you considering? Crawfish? Any at all?

Renée :-)

P.S. Your sig line is the best Bertrand quote *ever*!

Oooh, so have you MADE one? I deboned a goose for the first time

this year and stuffed it and it was sooo amazing ... I'm considering

a Turduken to amaze the locals ... I suppose it would be more amazing

if you grew the ingredients personally ...

[Guest guest]

Renée,

My wife picks up a dozen been, cheese, and jalapeño tamales (Tex-Mex style),

from someone in Pasadena, Texas, your old stomping grounds. They are great.

I have had spinach and black been tamales, as well. Two weeks ago, I had

some Tamales de Panama, they were vegetarian, with lots of capers, olives,

and corn. I have, also, had Costa Rican tamales, same thing, mostly a

vegetarian idea, it did have a little chicken.

Who says tamales have to full of meat to be main course?

Wayland

(your new raw milk friend)

[Guest guest]

>Well now that's the first time I've ever heard of huitlecoche...and what

>an interesting thing it seems to be! :-) My cookbook does indeed have

>a recipe but it's terribly long. Will that okay copyright-wise, as long as

>credit is given to the source? Moderator?

>Let me know! Renée :-)

,

If you alter just a couple of ingredients wouldn't that make it your own recipe?

<chuckling pseudo-evilly>

Darrell

[Guest guest]

> Darrell,

> two recipes--neither complex although one is for quesadilla filling

> but would probably make a nice tamal.

> B.

> http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/recipes/recipe/0,1977,FOOD_9936_12975,00.html

> http://www.recipe-source.com/ethnic/americas/mexican/huitlacoche1.html

Thanks

I bet they are both good. I'm kinda partial to food network. That one uses

canned huitlacoche.

Darrell

[Guest guest]

The copyright refers to the way it is written.

Also there are a somewhat limited way of describing things in recipes.

If I were to write Catz eggnogg recipe it would look something like this.

1 cup milk

1 large egg

Honey to taste

Whizz in blender for 10 seconds.

Voila! A " different " recipe.

Add my " bit of vanilla " . Yet another recipe.

I could sit here and write a number of recipes for eggnog and all would end

up the same. Or very nearly so.

Enjoy! ;-)

Judith Alta

Re: Re: Re: tamales

>Well now that's the first time I've ever heard of huitlecoche...and what

>an interesting thing it seems to be! :-) My cookbook does indeed have

>a recipe but it's terribly long. Will that okay copyright-wise, as long as

>credit is given to the source? Moderator?

>Let me know! Renée :-)

,

If you alter just a couple of ingredients wouldn't that make it your own

recipe?

<chuckling pseudo-evilly>

Darrell

[Guest guest]

>Hi Heidi

>

>Made one? No way! :-) Got a *fantastic* Cajun store right down the street.

Oh yeah, your guests will be amazed!

>

>I'm totally into masochistic labor-intensive kitchen activity, but this is not

even on my To Do list! :-)

It really isn't that hard to debone a bird. I did it out of curiousity after

seeing a pic in

the LaVrenne Pratique (good book ... get it if you see it!). Someone sent me a

link

with the whole process:

http://www.chefpaul.com/turducken.html

Since it looks like Mom is coming up for Christmas, we gotta do it!

She said she was always curious about them. If I do it the day before,

then I get all those nice bones to make stock. I'll make the cornbread

sooner, like now, and freeze the cubes. I have to use commercial

birds anyway, because my sister won't eat anything homegrown.

>What kind of stuffing are you considering? Crawfish? Any at all?

Is there stuffing in there TOO? I thought they were solid meat!

I might try the Andaloui sausage stuffing in the link, mixed

with my usual cornbread, if I can get a mix to make the sausage

(it's hard to find sausage that is GFCF). Shrimp wouldn't be bad

though ... I doubt I can find crawfish ... !

>Renée :-)

>

>P.S. Your sig line is the best Bertrand quote *ever*!

Thanks!

>

Heidi Jean

The trouble with the world is that the

stupid are cocksure and the

intelligent are full of doubt. -Bertrand

[Guest guest]

[Heidi] I have to use commercial

birds anyway, because my sister won't eat anything homegrown.

Isn't that strange? My mother is the same way. She wants a small

garden every year, but she refuses to eat anything out of it. She

insisted on having eggplants one year and never touched a

one of them.

Ask your sister if its ok if you use one of your homegrown birds

if you promise to add antibiotics, hormones, and ground up

chicken & beef waste when you cook it.

Darrell

[Guest guest]

Hi Heidi

Thanks for the Chef link...another task on the To Do list! ;-)

Yeah, crawfish stuffing is pretty traditional...are you averse to using frozen

crawfish?

Speaking of Chef ...here's some interesting info, but no crawfish:

http://www.gumbopages.com/food/poultry/turducken.html

Okay...I'm a newbie...what's GFCF? :-)

Have you ever made sausage? It'd be easy to do, but IIRC Andouille is

smoked...but surely it would be great with fresh.

Please do post updates on this project! Renée :-)

http://www.chefpaul.com/turducken.html

<snip>

Is there stuffing in there TOO? I thought they were solid meat!

I might try the Andaloui sausage stuffing in the link, mixed

with my usual cornbread, if I can get a mix to make the sausage

(it's hard to find sausage that is GFCF). Shrimp wouldn't be bad

though ... I doubt I can find crawfish ... !

[Guest guest]

>[Darrell] Isn't that strange? My mother is the same way. She wants a small

>garden every year, but she refuses to eat anything out of it. She

>insisted on having eggplants one year and never touched a

>one of them.

[HJ] Wow, she won't eat her own *vegies*? I couldn't go to that

much work if I didn't want the results.

>Ask your sister if its ok if you use one of your homegrown birds

>if you promise to add antibiotics, hormones, and ground up

>chicken & beef waste when you cook it.

[HJ] Her objection is that I " saw " the cow, I haven't even talked

to her about our homegrown chickens. My brother won't eat

homegrown eggs though. He saw the chickens, and when I

offered him some eggs, said " I won't eat anything that comes

out of a chicken's butt! " . We all laughed and I said, " Well, where

do you think the ones come from in the store? " and he said

" Yeah, but I didn't *see* those chickens! " .

[HJ] There is some quantum sublety here ... observing a process

changes the process ...

>

Heidi [HJ] [HTG]

[Guest guest]

>

>[Renée] Yeah, crawfish stuffing is pretty traditional...are you averse to using

frozen crawfish?

>

>Speaking of Chef ...here's some interesting info, but no crawfish:

>http://www.gumbopages.com/food/poultry/turducken.html

[HJ] Ah ... yeah, they do stuff 'em huh! Sounding better and better ...

>[Renée] Okay...I'm a newbie...what's GFCF? :-)

[HJ] Gluten free Casein Free

>[Renée] Have you ever made sausage? It'd be easy to do, but IIRC Andouille is

smoked...but surely it would be great with fresh.

[HJ] I like making sausage once I figured out I don't need to do the " stuffing "

part! The Turducken will be smoked anyway, so there will be lots of smokey

flavor by the time it's done. I suppose I could smoke the sausage though.

Heidi [HJ] [HTG]

[Guest guest]

> [HJ] Her objection is that I " saw " the cow, I haven't even talked

> to her about our homegrown chickens. My brother won't eat

> homegrown eggs though. He saw the chickens, and when I

> offered him some eggs, said " I won't eat anything that comes

> out of a chicken's butt! " . We all laughed and I said, " Well, where

> do you think the ones come from in the store? " and he said

> " Yeah, but I didn't *see* those chickens! " .

[Aven] I had a childhood friend who wouldn't drink raw milk

because " ew, it comes from a cow! " She didn't even *see* the

cows, or see the milk coming from the cows. We explained,

of course, that the milk at her house came from cows as

well, but apparently she needed a certain number of steps

between the cow and herself.

I think many people have developed an aversion to nature -

related to germ-phobia, but not exactly the same thing. They

are revolted by any foodstuff that is not sufficiently sanitized

and disinfected, and they prefer " clean " food from boxes and

plastic wraps. They're truly revolted by anything " from the

backyard " or " from an animal. "

I believe that this comes from being raised in a consciously

germ-phobic environment, without animal contact, and being

trained from an early age to keep dirt and weeds out of one's

mouth. Food comes from the grocery store, not from the

yucky ground.

[Guest guest]

[HJ] Her objection is that I " saw " the cow, I haven't even talked

to her about our homegrown chickens. My brother won't eat

homegrown eggs though. He saw the chickens, and when I

offered him some eggs, said " I won't eat anything that comes

out of a chicken's butt! " . We all laughed and I said, " Well, where

do you think the ones come from in the store? " and he said

" Yeah, but I didn't *see* those chickens! " .

Do you think theres a market for GMO camoflage-colored

chickens and assorted farm animals? If seeing the food

running around on legs is all that's holding people back....

Or maybe paint all the farm critters a bright green color and

force your guests to wear goggles that filter out bright green

stuff. Heid's free-range weather channel...

Darrell

[Guest guest]

Aven-

>I think many people have developed an aversion to nature -

>related to germ-phobia, but not exactly the same thing. They

>are revolted by any foodstuff that is not sufficiently sanitized

>and disinfected, and they prefer " clean " food from boxes and

>plastic wraps. They're truly revolted by anything " from the

>backyard " or " from an animal. "

Years ago, I read a short science fiction story, possibly by Isaac Asimov

though I don't remember for sure (Arthur C. e, maybe?) set pretty far

in the future, in which the main character toured the solar system and

returned home to Earth very excited by the culinary wonders he'd found on

the various colonized moons and planets. He prepared some off-Earth foods

for the folks back home, and they were delighted -- until he revealed, to

their utter horror, that he'd used actual living foods from actual plants

(and animals, maybe; I forget) grown in the dirt. He was immediately exiled.

At the time, I thought that was ridiculous, but now I'm starting to think

it was right on the money.

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