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> I find King slightly less disappointing than other brands, but you

> definitely shouldn't buy them packed in oil. The n3s in the sardines are

> leeching out into the oil, and the oil is leeching into the

> sardine. Packed in water is the way to go, even though they don't taste

as

> good and are generally harder to find.

I'm sorry I don't understand what n3s are. I was just looking at some

sardines that Vital Choice sells that are packed in extra virgin organic

olive oil. I thought it was cool to see some packed in organic oil. I'm

just trying to understand why the two oils mixing together would be a

problem.

Kim

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Kim-

>I'm sorry I don't understand what n3s are.

Sorry, shorthand for omega-3 oils.

>I was just looking at some

>sardines that Vital Choice sells that are packed in extra virgin organic

>olive oil. I thought it was cool to see some packed in organic oil. I'm

>just trying to understand why the two oils mixing together would be a

>problem.

Partly it depends on the quality of the oil -- lots of sardines are packed

in soybean oil, for example -- but mainly it's just that if you pack a

sardine in oil, the oil and the fats in the sardine are going to

intermingle. Some of the packing oil will leech into the sardine, and some

of the sardine's beneficial fats will leech out into the oil.

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What is the baking soda test? (I don't know what a lap test is either.)

Carol

The only way to find out for sure,

unfortunately, is to get a lap test, but if you're brave you could also try

the baking soda test. Just make sure not to use too much!

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>>When I did it, I had a tiny burp at 2 minutes, and a larger burp at 5

minutes so I'm not really sure what that means.

Steph<<

~~~Thanks Steph. I'll try that, but I can almost guarantee I'll burp right

away. I burp after almost everything. :-)

Carol

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>>I'm sorry I don't understand what n3s are. I was just looking at some

sardines that Vital Choice sells that are packed in extra virgin organic

olive oil. I thought it was cool to see some packed in organic oil. I'm

just trying to understand why the two oils mixing together would be a

problem.

Kim<<

~~~n3s are the 'valuable' omega 3 oils found in fish and in smaller amounts in

some other foods. (Very few in other foods.........although, there are a lot in

wild game and grass-fed beef.) I guess it wouldn't be a problem, if you drank

the oil in the can, but I have never done that. If you did, though, I'm not

sure why it would matter that those oils switch places......?

Carol

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Carol-

>What is the baking soda test? (I don't know what a lap test is either.)

The baking soda challenge test requires you to take a small, set amount of

baking soda and measure how quickly you burp. The longer it takes you, the

less acid you produce. The lab test (sorry about the type) (called the

Heidelberg test IIRC) involves swallowing a measuring device which directly

measures stomach acidity and then transmits the information outside your

body via a measuring device.

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Carol-

>I guess it wouldn't be a problem, if you drank the oil in the can, but I

>have never done that. If you did, though, I'm not sure why it would

>matter that those oils switch places......?

It wouldn't -- you'd be getting all the sardine omega-3s that way -- but

the oil in the can is inevitably crummy.

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>>Natto has been said to help prevent osteoporosis. The reason is not fully

understood. Ingesting the dry natto spore is supposed to give better

results than eating the stinky, cheesy, fermented natto beans. They can

be made with beans other than soy and eaten with mustard and chopped

green onions.

Darrell<<

~~~I just can't do legumes with these intestines of mine. I tried natto and

liked it, but couldn't tolerate it. I've been thinking of nattokinase, but then

read the below article and see that the K2 has been removed from that.

(Nattokinase is used as an anticoagulanet, which was my interest in it, and

another reason I'm leary of taking vitamin K - I have hypercoagulation.) This

is an interesting article on vitamin K, and does state that K2 IS the one you

want, to prevent osteoporosis. I now see there was no good reason for me to

have been taking K1. This is what I dislike now about supplements. You think

you're doing the best you can do, and then at least 75% of the time, I've ended

up deciding it was not a good idea at all. That 'industry' is always in such

flux, with new discoveries coming out all the time that change everything. They

used to say twice as much calcium as magnesium was the way to take those

minerals. I did that for 15 years and ended up with hypercalcemia and a severe

magnesium deficiency. I just become more and more disenchanted with supplements

the more I learn about them, and experience them. (Not that you're 'pushing'

them by any means, because natto is a food. I just got on a little bit of a

soapbox there for a minute! :-)

Carol

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