Re: Re: was kefiili and GF question, now red wine

[Guest guest]

It is a great migraine producer for me! LOL no bebefits here...

Catz

> Wow, Heidi, you are so lucky that red wine helps your digestion! All

> I can tell is that it exacerbates my acne.

>

> I wonder if other people on the list experience benefits from red wine?

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[Guest guest]

> I wonder if other people on the list experience benefits from red wine?

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It makes my writing much more interesting; perhaps you've noticed :?

Deanna

[Guest guest]

>>It is a great migraine producer for me! LOL no bebefits here...

Catz<<

~~~Wine of all kinds causes almost immediate headaches for me. (Which is weird,

because I've neve had a hangover in my life.) I imagine it has some good

effects that can't be felt, however, according to the news reports in the last

few years.

Carol

[Guest guest]

Well, my migraines AND my acne both went away when I

went GFCF, so I don't know if it exacerbates them or not!

Shoot, I can even eat chocolate brownies and coffee,

no migraines (GFCF brownies, of course!).

>It is a great migraine producer for me! LOL no bebefits here...

>Catz

>

>> Wow, Heidi, you are so lucky that red wine helps your digestion! All

>> I can tell is that it exacerbates my acne.

>>

Heidi Jean

[Guest guest]

yes...asprin dificiencies, and ibuprofen deficiencies... those are

definately deficient in this house... must be the cause of the

headaches...couldn't be screaming kids! LOL :-)

Catz

On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 01:37:25 -0000, shawnalendzion

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> Hmmmm. Now, I thought that migraines were due to an asprin

> deficiency. ???

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[Guest guest]

>Hmmmm. Now, I thought that migraines were due to an asprin

>deficiency. ???

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>

Calcium, actually. Something like half of migraine sufferers

get fewer or milder migraines when they take supplemental

calcium and, I think, B vitamins.

Heidi Jean

The trouble with the world is that the

stupid are cocksure and the

intelligent are full of doubt. -Bertrand

[Guest guest]

>>Well, my migraines AND my acne both went away when I

went GFCF, so I don't know if it exacerbates them or not!

Shoot, I can even eat chocolate brownies and coffee,

no migraines (GFCF brownies, of course!).

Heidi Jean<<

~~~Hmm, that's something to consider. I don't think I've tried wine when I was

GFCF. Thanks for mentioning it.

Carol

[Guest guest]

Carol-

>~~~I hate to tell you this, but that may not be enough. I have been

>wine-free, coffee-free, tea-free and soda-free for a long time, and I'm

>still having bone loss! That's why I'm now juicing veggies high in

>minerals and eating lots of nuts, and am afraid that still may not do it.

Are you eating lots of bone-in sardines or other similar fish, and are you

getting adequate vitamin D and vitamin K, and not crappy synthetic forms at

that?

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[Guest guest]

>>My doc said I should limit to almost zero, wine, coffee, regular teas

(herbal's okay) soda pop (Ha! Ha!) and all refined foods, until my

bones gain more density.

Sheila<<

~~~I hate to tell you this, but that may not be enough. I have been wine-free,

coffee-free, tea-free and soda-free for a long time, and I'm still having bone

loss! That's why I'm now juicing veggies high in minerals and eating lots of

nuts, and am afraid that still may not do it.

Carol

[Guest guest]

That's an interesting note. I on the other hand had the worst

headaches from not consuming conventional milk, as in the migraines

were withdrawal symptoms. They have gone away (except for extreme

stress headaches that progress to migraines) since I have switched to

only drinking milk that is antibiotic and synthetic hormone free. For

my daughter they are a withdrawal symptom of wheat (possibly gluten).

Thank you for reminding me how much I don't miss her headaches! :-)

Now if I could only convince my mother to try it....

Catz - Does anyone have a cure for stress headaches besides getting

rid of stress? (-:

> Calcium, actually. Something like half of migraine sufferers

> get fewer or milder migraines when they take supplemental

> calcium and, I think, B vitamins.

>

>

>

> Heidi Jean

[Guest guest]

>>Are you eating lots of bone-in sardines or other similar fish, and are you

getting adequate vitamin D and vitamin K, and not crappy synthetic forms at

that?

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~~~Yes, I've been taking cod liver oil, cholecalciferol, and vitamin K. I was

also taking calcium, magnesium, zinc, boron and copper, and have been for years.

I figured I was obviously doing something wrong, so I have dropped all that

except the D and C.L.O. I finally came to the conclusion that I might be just

causing mineral imbalances with the minerals.

I should eat more sardines, though. I have a problem eating them every day, but

I guess I could put them in the blender with onions or something and eat them on

celery. Thanks for reminding me.

Carol

[Guest guest]

Carol-

>~~~Yes, I've been taking cod liver oil, cholecalciferol, and vitamin K. I

>was also taking calcium, magnesium, zinc, boron and copper, and have been

>for years. I figured I was obviously doing something wrong, so I have

>dropped all that except the D and C.L.O. I finally came to the conclusion

>that I might be just causing mineral imbalances with the minerals.

>

>I should eat more sardines, though. I have a problem eating them every

>day, but I guess I could put them in the blender with onions or something

>and eat them on celery. Thanks for reminding me.

Another possibility to consider: hypochlorhydria, which is to say

insufficient production of stomach acid. That severely impairs calcium

absorption. Also, make sure you're taking a good form of supplemental D,

and consider adding K back, but only the K2 form, which is harder to find.

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[Guest guest]

>>~~~I hate to tell you this, but that may not be enough. I have been

>>wine-free, coffee-free, tea-free and soda-free for a long time, and I'm

>>still having bone loss! That's why I'm now juicing veggies high in

>>minerals and eating lots of nuts, and am afraid that still may not do it.

>

>Are you eating lots of bone-in sardines or other similar fish, and are you

>getting adequate vitamin D and vitamin K, and not crappy synthetic forms at

>that?

I second 's statement! I've been putting in 2 cups of pulverized

anchovies into my kimchi lately, and the dark spots ( " age spots " ugh

what a name) are lightening up, which is a sign of good Vit. K I've heard.

You can't really taste the anchovies, they just add a nice depth of flavor.

I expect whole fish heads run through the blender would work too.

Since being GFCF and scarfing kimchi my bone density is way up though I do drink

wine and coffee (too much). I do take cal/mag/D supplements, but lately I've

been

taking cod liver oil too. They said my bones are in the upper 10% range ...

for a 30 year old, but I'm nearer to 50! My sister has ostopenia and my Mom

has bad osteoporosis, and I've had all kinds of calcium problems, but it

does seem to be reversible.

Heidi Jean

The trouble with the world is that the

stupid are cocksure and the

intelligent are full of doubt. -Bertrand

[Guest guest]

>~~~I hate to tell you this, but that may not be enough. I have been wine-free,

coffee-free, tea-free and soda-free for a long time, and I'm still >having bone

loss! That's why I'm now juicing veggies high in minerals and eating lots of

nuts, and am afraid that still may not do it.

>Carol

Carol,

Natto has been said to help prevent osteoporosis. The reason is not fully

understood. Ingesting the dry natto spore is supposed to give better

results than eating the stinky, cheesy, fermented natto beans. They can

be made with beans other than soy and eaten with mustard and chopped

green onions.

Darrell

[Guest guest]

> Headaches here too. I think it is because of the sulfites in it

> though. Isn't there sulfite free wine? It's been a long time since I

> drank it and I am willing to give it another try.

>

> Del

I had headaches from red wine many years ago and I gave it up for over 5

yrs. I wouldn't go near it the headaches lasted for half a day and were

horrible. I started drinking it again when I was in Barcelona a couple

months ago and I have not had one headache. I guess this another example of

how abstaining from something for a long period of time can make an allergy

go away.

I know it's not entirely healthy but it sure feels good.

Kim

[Guest guest]

> >I should eat more sardines

Anybody have a source for really great sardines or are they all about the

same? I just buy mine at Whole Foods packed in olive oil.

Also, I bought dried shaved bonito today and ate half the bag. Do any of

you use this? The package said it is a fish related to the mackerel but the

bonito didn't taste oily at all. I wonder if it's been processed beyond

having much nutritional value?

Kim

[Guest guest]

Ya never know... it's not that far of a drive, in the grand scheme of

things, from Boise! Of course, after making that drive with my three

little monsters in the car, I will definately have one of those stress

headaches! LOL (-:

Catz - who knows the secret of life: expect the unexpected!

> > Catz - Does anyone have a cure for stress headaches besides getting

> > rid of stress? (-:

>

> Massage!

>

> I am finishing up my education to become a massage therapist. While I

> am still a student, and I am giving massages free of charge! So, if

> you are ever in the Seattle area, I might be able to help you out with

> those headaches.

>

> Not exactly what you were expecting, right?

>

> ~a

[Guest guest]

>Also, I bought dried shaved bonito today and ate half the bag. Do any of

>you use this? The package said it is a fish related to the mackerel but the

>bonito didn't taste oily at all. I wonder if it's been processed beyond

>having much nutritional value?

>

>Kim

We used to catch bonito and mackerel when I was a kid ... both of them

taste like tuna fish when they are fresh. Dried fish just does not have

much taste, no matter what it is made of. Dried anchovies don't taste

anything like the ones in cans. To my understanding, bonito flakes

are just dried bonito flakes, not much processing, but since it doesn't

have the bones and organs and such and has not been fermented,

it's not as good as, say, fish sauce.

Heidi Jean

The trouble with the world is that the

stupid are cocksure and the

intelligent are full of doubt. -Bertrand

[Guest guest]

> >>My doc said I should limit to almost zero, wine, coffee, regular teas

> (herbal's okay) soda pop (Ha! Ha!) and all refined foods, until my

> bones gain more density.

> Sheila<<

>

> ~~~I hate to tell you this, but that may not be enough. I have been

> wine-free, coffee-free, tea-free and soda-free for a long time, and

> I'm still having bone loss! That's why I'm now juicing veggies high

> in minerals and eating lots of nuts, and am afraid that still may not

> do it.

> Carol

Exercise is at least as important as diet in building bone. Of course,

at about age 30, the general population begins losing skeletal mass.

That is why weight bearing exercise it vital to at least maintaining

bone density as age increases. Anecdotally, women like Joyce Vedral

have have built bone through resistance training and diet well after

their 40s. There is no doubt in my mind that diet alone can ensure bone

density. Use it or lose it.

Deanna, a former personal trainer

[Guest guest]

Kim-

>Anybody have a source for really great sardines or are they all about the

>same? I just buy mine at Whole Foods packed in olive oil.

I find King slightly less disappointing than other brands, but you

definitely shouldn't buy them packed in oil. The n3s in the sardines are

leeching out into the oil, and the oil is leeching into the

sardine. Packed in water is the way to go, even though they don't taste as

good and are generally harder to find.

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[Guest guest]

Del,

You know, we women who are lighter in weight are much more prone to bone loss

too. I gained about 8 pounds recently from eating more fats and I think I may

just work at maintaining this new weight. That's like carrying an 8 pound

barbell around all day, so gives one a little more weight bearing exercise. I

read, not too long ago, that heavy women don't usually get osteoporosis. (One

benefit of being fat I never thought about! :-)

D'Adamo has a supplement you can take that is supposed to help, if you ingest

too many lectins by accident. I think it would help the same way with gluten

and casein. I can't remember the name of it, but you can find it at the ER4YT

web site.

Carol

Well, I am between a rock and a hard place with this one. On one

hand it should be good to help me not have such a hard time for

accidently ingesting gluten/casin and on the other hand it is on the

list of foods that help to eat up bone density (I have osteoporosis).

Del

[Guest guest]

>>What about mercury? Are these canned fish mercury free?

Del<<

~~~Sardines and anchovies are small fish, which are the safest as far as mercury

contamination is concerned. (Herring should be ok too - I eat a lot of

kippers.)I don't know much about Bonito, but it's bigger, so MAY be a problem.

Carol

[Guest guest]

>>Isn't there sulfite free wine? It's been a long time since I

drank it and I am willing to give it another try.

Del<<

~~~We have a health food store in Spokane that is more like a grocery store and

they have a large wine section. They have wine they claim is sulfite free.

Carol

[Guest guest]

>>Another possibility to consider: hypochlorhydria, which is to say

insufficient production of stomach acid. That severely impairs calcium

absorption.<<

~~~I have tried taking HCL, but afer a few days of it, my stomach starts to

hurt, so I think I may have an over abundance, contrary to what they say about

most people. It kind of makes sense with me, though, because I have high

histamine levels, which go along with high stomach acid levels.

>>Also, make sure you're taking a good form of supplemental D,

and consider adding K back, but only the K2 form, which is harder to find.<<

~~~I read that cholecalciferol is the best form, so that's what I'm taking. Is

that the kind you mean? Most articles say to take K1, (Krispin Sullivan,

Mercola), do you have a link that explains why we should take K2? I'd like to

read it, if so. Sullivan recommends Super K by LEF, which has both K1 and K2,

but the K1 is nine times more than the K2. You guys have convinced me to go

back on the K, but now to decide which one to take.

Carol

[Guest guest]

Carol-

>~~~I have tried taking HCL, but afer a few days of it, my stomach starts

>to hurt, so I think I may have an over abundance, contrary to what they

>say about most people. It kind of makes sense with me, though, because I

>have high histamine levels, which go along with high stomach acid levels.

That's possible, though if you're normally fine it's unlikely you have an

overabundance, but it's also possible you're just not taking the right

kind, or that in addition to insufficient HCl, you also have insufficient

stomach mucous secretion. The only way to find out for sure,

unfortunately, is to get a lap test, but if you're brave you could also try

the baking soda test. Just make sure not to use too much!

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