Re: Fw: Re:High Power Microscopes with Camera

[Guest guest]

Depends on the bacterium. Some are nearly transparent, others are quite

visible. Most bacterium are visible at 400 power but some need 1000x and

darkfield, or phase contrast, becomes important too.

At the higher magnifications the vibrations present almost anywhere

become important too; in using non-optical Atomic Force Microscopes,

which resolve down to molecules and lower, the microscopes are often on

air cushions and then also on sand platforms.

Dave Felt

Dan Himself wrote:

> Bil,

>

> This is very interesting. But, don’t you think the Dark Field version with

> color camera would be more usable? I am not an expert in this, but would

> like to get a microscope and I was under the impression that it was

> difficult to see bacteria in a bright field.

>

> Microscopes:

> http://stores.ebay

> com/Precision-World_Darkfield_W0QQcolZ2QQdirZQ2d1QQfclZ4QQfsubZ209065QQftidZ2

> QtZkm

>

> Cameras:

> http://stores.ebay

> com/Precision-World_Camera-Video_USB-PC-Camera_W0QQcolZ2QQdirZQ2d1QQfsubZ5096

> 78QQftidZ2QQtZkm

>

> Or,

> http://cgi.ebay

> com/MICROSCOPE-TV-CCD-VIDEO-CAMERA-ELECTRONIC-EYEPIECE_W0QQitemZ7606700125QQi

> Z017QQcategoryZ11813QQcmdZViewItem

>

> Dan

>

>

> High Power Microscopes with Camera

> Posted by: " Bil Green " magpulser@... mammothlks

> Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:28 am (PST)

> For those that may want to see if they can cause bacteria to blow

> Up when exposed to Rife frequencies here's a place which has new

> 1600x compound high power microscopes with USB PC camera for only

> $280 (so you could make a video and share it with us).

> http://tinyurl.com/yfjaqt

>

> This should be powerful enough to view at least some bacteria

> (and they have other lenses available to boost the power). Look

> At those photos! (will it really look this good?)

>

> Bil

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[Guest guest]

Hi Dave,

Can normal microscopes be converted to darkfield, or is this something that

the manufacturers have to build into the microscope ?

Ken Uzzell

Re: Fw: Re:High Power Microscopes with Camera

> Depends on the bacterium. Some are nearly transparent, others are quite

> visible. Most bacterium are visible at 400 power but some need 1000x and

> darkfield, or phase contrast, becomes important too.

>

> At the higher magnifications the vibrations present almost anywhere

> become important too; in using non-optical Atomic Force Microscopes,

> which resolve down to molecules and lower, the microscopes are often on

> air cushions and then also on sand platforms.

>

> Dave Felt

>

>

> Dan Himself wrote:

>

>> Bil,

>>

>> This is very interesting. But, don’t you think the Dark Field version

>> with

>> color camera would be more usable? I am not an expert in this, but would

>> like to get a microscope and I was under the impression that it was

>> difficult to see bacteria in a bright field.

>>

[Guest guest]

The darkfield effect is achieved by using a specially designed condenser for

the higher powers (100x oil immersion) or simply inserrting a " stop " below

your stage that can be used at lower powers (400x or less). When using

specialized DF condensers, you also will either need a funnel stop or a iris

adjustable high power objective to match the df condenser. All major brands

will often have df condensers available for the darkfield effect.

If you or anyone are interested, Join:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DarkFieldMicroscopy/

doug

Re: Fw: Re:High Power Microscopes with Camera

> Hi Dave,

>

> Can normal microscopes be converted to darkfield, or is this something

> that

> the manufacturers have to build into the microscope ?

>

> Ken Uzzell

[Guest guest]

Ken, It gets a bit complicated .. primers on the subject at:

http://www.olympusmicro.com/primer/techniques/darkfieldindex.html and

http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/primer/techniques/darkfield.html

Condensers are usually not interchangeable between manufacturers. Lots

better to buy the microscope with darkfield or with phase contrast to

start with, but it runs the price up..

Dave

Ken Uzzell wrote:

>Hi Dave,

>

>Can normal microscopes be converted to darkfield, or is this something that

>the manufacturers have to build into the microscope ?

>

>Ken Uzzell

>

> Re: Fw: Re:High Power Microscopes with Camera

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Doug,

I have sent my application to

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DarkFieldMicroscopy/

I am a beginner here, but as Dr Bare learnt about them, then I figured so

can I.

Regards,

Ken Uzzell

Re: Fw: Re:High Power Microscopes with Camera

>

>

>> Hi Dave,

>>

>> Can normal microscopes be converted to darkfield, or is this something

>> that

>> the manufacturers have to build into the microscope ?

>>

>> Ken Uzzell

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ken:

I ordered a high-end microscope from Precision World on Ebay after they

confirmed that you could add their oil darkfield condenser. However, it does

perform poorly with very little light transmitted to obtain the correct affect.

The scope does have the adjustable iris and third port for video viewing and

performs very well in the bright field mode.

Precision World does not respond with recommendations or answer on this topic.

I would recommend buying a unit already proved to perform instead of adapting,

at least from what I've experienced.

Ken Uzzell wrote:

Thanks Doug,

I have sent my application to

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DarkFieldMicroscopy/

I am a beginner here, but as Dr Bare learnt about them, then I figured so

can I.

Regards,

Ken Uzzell

Re: Fw: Re:High Power Microscopes with Camera

>

>

>> Hi Dave,

>>

>> Can normal microscopes be converted to darkfield, or is this something

>> that

>> the manufacturers have to build into the microscope ?

>>

>> Ken Uzzell

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

One should avoid the no-name brand of scopes that are rampant on ebay and other

sites on the net. They may look and sound grand, but don't be fooled. They often

come from the Pacific rim and are characterized by poor optics and plastic

parts. Not good. One would be far better off taking one chances on ebay with

known quality brands of used/obsolete research or clinical scopes from the 1960s

or 70s. For me the best bang for the buck has always been the AO American

Optical microscope line with easily obtained accessories that are very common

and cheap on ebay. I have put together a quality microscope capable of both

darkfield and epi-fluorescence (UV) for well under $500, not an easy task with

other well known quality brands, particularly if you are interested in the UV

option.

doug

Re: Fw: Re:High Power Microscopes with Camera

>

>

>> Hi Dave,

>>

>> Can normal microscopes be converted to darkfield, or is this something

>> that

>> the manufacturers have to build into the microscope ?

>>

>> Ken Uzzell

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Thank you for this. A friend is doing her Naturopathy studies and we may

join our businesses. She is interested in live blood analysis and so am I,

as this slots right into my Rife frequency therapy studies, scanner

development project and body work profession.

s Ergonom 500 and his other series of cheaper Ergonom dark field

microscopes stagger us as to what can be observed. The price is just beyond

our reach at the moment. The depth of field the Ergonom provides is very

good, and I haven't seen this in other microscope presentations.

I was very impressed with the video presentation Bil Green shared with us at

http://www.squarewaveresearch.com.pa/video_clips.html

It is now becoming clear that researchers are getting close to being able to

do what Dr Rife did, these are very exciting times we live in.

Regards,

Ken Uzzell

Re: Fw: Re:High Power Microscopes with Camera

> Ken:

>

> I ordered a high-end microscope from Precision World on Ebay after they

> confirmed that you could add their oil darkfield condenser. However, it

> does perform poorly with very little light transmitted to obtain the

> correct affect. The scope does have the adjustable iris and third port for

> video viewing and performs very well in the bright field mode.

>

> Precision World does not respond with recommendations or answer on this

> topic. I would recommend buying a unit already proved to perform instead

> of adapting, at least from what I've experienced.

>

>

> Ken Uzzell wrote:

> Thanks Doug,

>

> I have sent my application to

>

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DarkFieldMicroscopy/

>

> I am a beginner here, but as Dr Bare learnt about them, then I figured so

> can I.

>

> Regards,

> Ken Uzzell

>

[Guest guest]

Everyone can think of making short movies of their Rife machines and

experiences and posting them on www.utube.com. More people all the time are

watching this website rather than television and it seems to be a great and

free way to get the word out about Rife. Think about it and check it out.

All my love, lee